Wishlist and General Juve mercato talk (2011-12) (47 Viewers)

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Flamez

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Feb 7, 2011
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I don't think David would suit Juve. Just like I don't think Vidic would as well. But they are both WC material, don't be fooled by DL's poor form and Chelsea's period.

David Luiz is LOL. More unreliable than Bonucci.
LOL is your comment.

True. I can't remember who said it, but some footballer compared him to what a FIFA 12 player does when a 10 year old kid gets a grab of the joystick and rapes the "press" button. ( On legacy (?) defending ofc, not that gay new thing they have going on )
Yeah. And, on the other hand, someone over here said the same about Vidal and he (Vidal) was praised as fuck by the mass. Double standards, can it be?
 

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Nzoric

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Jan 16, 2011
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Yeah. And, on the other hand, someone over here said the same about Vidal and he (Vidal) was praised as fuck by the mass. Double standards, can it be?
What double standards? I just paraphrased something that I agree with. Just because I agree with that description on one player doesn't mean that I have to agree with anyone who has ever labelled a player mindless in the history of ever. Double standards? No. Intense disliking of David Luiz and a man crush on Vidal? Yes.
 

Flamez

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I don't think you have seen him for his whole career... one piss poor season (that's undoubtful) makes him "less unreliable than Bonucci and LOL"?

He has not even the right partner to play with, it was a mistake for Chelsea to get him to play alongside Terry. Actually, it's the same kind of mistake I think Juve would make if they wanted to partner Chiellini with Vidic. Unfortunatelly, I guess Chiellini would be the one who would be "burnt" as Vidic is still a better overall defender than him.
 

Fake Melo

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I don't think you have seen him for his whole career... one piss poor season (that's undoubtful) makes him "less unreliable than Bonucci and LOL"?

He has not even the right partner to play with, it was a mistake for Chelsea to get him to play alongside Terry. Actually, it's the same kind of mistake I think Juve would make if they wanted to partner Chiellini with Vidic. Unfortunatelly, I guess Chiellini would be the one who would be "burnt" as Vidic is still a better overall defender than him.
I have seen plenty. I know he is overhyped. He did well for Brazil but he was never a world class defender for Benfica.

Saying Vidic wouldn't fit Juve would be like saying Messi doesn't fit Juve. Let me quote a legend when I say: Great players always fnds space.
 

Nzoric

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Jan 16, 2011
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I don't think you have seen him for his whole career... one piss poor season (that's undoubtful) makes him "less unreliable than Bonucci and LOL"?

He has not even the right partner to play with, it was a mistake for Chelsea to get him to play alongside Terry. Actually, it's the same kind of mistake I think Juve would make if they wanted to partner Chiellini with Vidic. Unfortunatelly, I guess Chiellini would be the one who would be "burnt" as Vidic is still a better overall defender than him.
Wherein lies Chelsea's mistake in pairing him with Terry? Im curious.

Wherein lies Juve's mistake in pairing Vidic with Chiellini? Im curious.
 

Flamez

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I have seen plenty. I know he is overhyped. He did well for Brazil but he was never a world class defender for Benfica.

Saying Vidic wouldn't fit Juve would be like saying Messi doesn't fit Juve. Let me quote a legend when I say: Great players always fnds space.
He had one great period in Benfica, but I can agree he was being overrated when he left. He was being one of the weak spots the season he left to Chelsea, really unstable for the team. But then again, he already proved he's not that unreliable guy and that with the right guidance he'd be a star for any team. He just needs to fix his reading of the game at times, because both physically and technically he has quality to easilly be one of the best.

He did well for Brazil and I guess you noticed his quality there, but you still think Bonucci is more reliable overall? Come on! :D

Well, maybe the reason of my personal doubts about Vidic with Juve is that I don't rate him that highly. ;)

Wherein lies Chelsea's mistake in pairing him with Terry? Im curious.

Wherein lies Juve's mistake in pairing Vidic with Chiellini? Im curious.
No "mind" or solidness at the back for a top club. I think that's fulcral to have a great defence. You know, the likes of Nesta, Pique, Carvalho... you can't afford to have two rough defenders at the same time if you want to be the best.

IMO that mind and provider of calm at the back in United's defense is/was Ferdinand and not Vidic.
 

Luca

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Yeah. And, on the other hand, someone over here said the same about Vidal and he (Vidal) was praised as fuck by the mass. Double standards, can it be?
Idiot comment. Think, Luiz plays center back so running around in the middle of the pitch like a headless chicken is completley something he shouldn't do. Vidal on the other hand plays as a central midfielder and his job is to press around that area as much as possible.
BTW it was Gary Neville who made the playstation comparrison.
 

Nzoric

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Jan 16, 2011
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No "mind" or solidness at the back for a top club. I think that's fulcral to have a great defence. You know, the likes of Nesta, Pique, Carvalho... you can't afford to have two rough defenders at the same time if you want to be the best.

IMO that mind and provider of calm at the back in United's defense is/was Ferdinand and not Vidic.
Im sorry, but Terry is the organizer in the Chelsea defense, he was really good at it.

And I completely disagree on your assessment of Vidic, he the brains in that defense.
 

ZoSo

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Jul 11, 2011
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Im sorry, but Terry is the organizer in the Chelsea defense, he was really good at it.

And I completely disagree on your assessment of Vidic, he the brains in that defense.
Vidic is the captain of United for a reason. He is the best CB imo. He would be perfect with Chiellini.
 

Hust

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I can't believe we didn't even make a move for tevez.

:sergio:

We passed on Cassano because of "attitude concerns" and now the same to Tevez. Both go to Milan, as we watch them create/score goals and sit in the dark and lick our wounds wishing we had the balls to make a move for that kind of player.

Pussies.
 
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