Winter mercato thread 2025 (37 Viewers)

[Durden]

not that i like it, i just think it's all about yearly costs. lower amortization, lower wages

can someone please explain the logic of extending this turd? The logic seems to be the same as stepping in a dogshit and wipeing it off in your pants. The shit from your shoes is gone, but you’re still covered in shit..

 

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[s4tch]

can someone please explain the logic of extending this turd? The logic seems to be the same as stepping in a dogshit and wipeing it off in your pants. The shit from your shoes is gone, but you’re still covered in shit..

as i said, lower amortization, lower wage per year

arthur's book value at june 2024, end of previous financial year: ~18m. his contract was about to last for an other 2 years, so yearly amortization: ~9m. yearly wages: 5m net, ~6.5m gross (he's still on his growth decree contract). with the extension, his contract expires in 3 years, so yearly amortization is 6m, wages down to 3.8m net, ~5m gross

in short, yearly cost:
- before extension: ~9m + ~6.5m = ~15.5m
- after extension: ~6m + ~5m = ~11m

so the club saves 4.5m per year for the next two years, adds 11m for a 3rd. considering that eu has a very low inflation, the time value of money doesn't really count, i'm not even considering it. and an other extension might be on the table, we did this already before his loan to fiorentina

not that i agree with this decision. i'd rather let his contract expire the soonest possible and forget him. from an accounting pov it still makes some sense

 

[JuveJay]

can someone please explain the logic of extending this turd? The logic seems to be the same as stepping in a dogshit and wipeing it off in your pants. The shit from your shoes is gone, but you’re still covered in shit..

Amortisation. Cost on the balance sheet per year is reduced by spreading over more years of contract.

 

[s4tch]

pedulla says that we gave up on danso because he failed his medical

 

[Akshen]

pedulla says that we gave up on danso because he failed his medical

That's interesting, might be related to the cardiology again since Italian league law is more strict than in other countries (I.e. Eriksen)

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Amortisation. Cost on the balance sheet per year is reduced by spreading over more years of contract.

His early cost was around 20m, 10m amortization and 10m gross salary, with this maneuver it goes down to around 12-13m

 

[s4tch]

His early cost was around 20m, 10m amortization and 10m gross salary, with this maneuver it goes down to around 12-13m

from ~15.5m to ~11m, see above

 

[Robee]

Sure but he's primarily a DM so not a proper CB

I don't know him. Hope to see him and wildcard Costa in an hour 'too. Curious.

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How exactly did mendes help us when we ended up signing Lloyd Kelly instead?

Also because he had a medical apparently

 

[Akshen]

from ~15.5m to ~11m, see above

Ahh didn't know he Is still on growth decree

 

[s4tch]

Ahh didn't know he Is still on growth decree

according to calcioefinanza he still is

 

[Robee]

not that i like it, i just think it's all about yearly costs. lower amortization, lower wages

Yes it's about yearly costs but it's still shit. All we had to do was bite the bullet for one more year. There's a 99% chance he'll be walking out on a free anyway.

We're putting big strains on our future by kicking the can down the road on all these deals...

 

[Akshen]

according to calcioefinanza he still is

So we can sell him for 12m and not make looses

 

[U Picciriddu]

So we can sell him for 12m and not make looses

Youre more likely to win 12m with the lottery

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[JuveJay]

Youre more likely to win 12m with the lottery

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Not that it really matters but Bournemouth wanted to keep Kelly, and he was captain, but he wanted to leave. This narrative reads better though. Then when a player leaves a club fans convince themselves that a player was not that good anyway. You see this on every forum.

Still worked out a weird deal overall. I get why we sold "home grown" players like Huijsen and Soulé for financial jiggery-pokery reasons, but the money we've spent and where we've spent it is the bigger problem.

 

[Badass J Elkann]

The end result is of zero importance to the point here. I said 'try to help' and there are pictures of him travelling to underline the story of him acting as an intermediary between Lens and us. Where are the pictures of him lashing out against Giuntoli? Or do you always just believe whatever you want to? And do you always avoid answering questions by posing other questions besides the point?

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Cambiaso is still here and we bought a RB so Veiga is supposed to be that CB, no?

So fucking what if Mendes was in Turin, doesn't mean shit really because we still finished up with Lloyd fucking Kelly, so again what exactly did Mendes do? sweet fuck all, the narritive doesn't change, don't try and convince me otherwise because Conceicao is still not a 100% certainty.

 

[Robee]

So fucking what if Mendes was in Turin, doesn't mean shit really because we still finished up with Lloyd fucking Kelly, so again what exactly did Mendes do? sweet fuck all, the narritive doesn't change, don't try and convince me otherwise because Conceicao is still not a 100% certainty.

You're babbling besides the point. Is helping juve a sign of a bad relationship? Yes or no. It's that simple.

 

[Scottish]

Not that it really matters but Bournemouth wanted to keep Kelly, and he was captain, but he wanted to leave. This narrative reads better though. Then when a player leaves a club fans convince themselves that a player was not that good anyway. You see this on every forum.

Still worked out a weird deal overall. I get why we sold "home grown" players like Huijsen and Soulé for financial jiggery-pokery reasons, but the money we've spent and where we've spent it is the bigger problem.

Very salient points as always

 

[Badass J Elkann]

You're babbling besides the point. Is helping juve a sign of a bad relationship? Yes or no. It's that simple.

And what evidence do you have of what the conversation was? All things considered we gained no favours the fact remains conceicao is not 100% certain to stay. Please stop trying to create an argument for the sake of arguing.

 

[cimenk]

Prefer him than Kelly. Yes, Kelly also can be used as LB but today Savona played as LB, Weah keep place as RB. Veiga can play there. So we need CB which is this guy

 

[s4tch]

Prefer him than Kelly. Yes, Kelly also can be used as LB but today Savona played as LB, Weah keep place as RB. Veiga can play there. So we need CB which is this guy

he already plays for us: we turned our match around once he entered the pitch. better signing than dougie l already

 

[ilmetronome]

Prefer him than Kelly. Yes, Kelly also can be used as LB but today Savona played as LB, Weah keep place as RB. Veiga can play there. So we need CB which is this guy

Did you see him play today? Since he came, he was bullied by Kolo Muani and Dusan

That Ismaijli guy is good. We should assess him more.