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zizinho

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Apr 14, 2013
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Is there even one user, bar Zach, who wouldn't want Witsel for free in summer/ for €6m in winter?

I liked Witsel for Benfica, same with Matic.

Is he a World beater? No. Am i excited? No.

BUT: Is he an upgrade over Stururu or/and Asamoah? Yes, of course he is.

So why the hell would you be against that signing?
If he turns out to be crap we can still sell him for a nice profit. It's a zero risk transfer.
depends what wages will he be on. 4M are Khedira level wages (was supposed to get that much in the summer, will probably get that if we sign him) and if he doesent turn starter (or atleast that 4th choice mid in 352, that we field as a starter when we go 4312) for us you get an expensive sub on your payroll. player quality wise on our current midfield hes only behind our starting trio (Pjanic backup for the 352, starting LCM with Mire as AM in the 4312) so for now he should be fine atleast.

now, if he is the type of CM we need at the moment i wont go into. let Allegri and co decide if he fits in
 

Zacheryah

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Aug 29, 2010
42,251
Is there even one user, bar Zach, who wouldn't want Witsel for free in summer/ for €6m in winter?

I liked Witsel for Benfica, same with Matic.

Is he a World beater? No. Am i excited? No.

BUT: Is he an upgrade over Stururu or/and Asamoah? Yes, of course he is.

So why the hell would you be against that signing?
If he turns out to be crap we can still sell him for a nice profit. It's a zero risk transfer.
Here is the raw situation of our current midfield


Is it good at creating and making chances and goals ?

- Yes it does. Marchisio and Pjanic are fantastic. Khedira when in reasonable form aswel. Lemina is a nice talent to have. Meanwhile Dybala, when he can play as he should, is insane.

Does our midfield actually play to the level we can expect from the above quesion ? Why ?

- No. We lack physical presence in the midfield and its really troubling us. Several players are underperforming, most notably pjanic and as a result dybala and higuain, because of this issue. Adding a player who adresses this issue would be a major boost and allows these plays to play as they should


Does witsel solve this issue ?

- No. Witsel is another pjanic without all the talent and much less working, so that doesnt solve anything

But zach, is witsel almost free ?

- He's on 3 mil wages. Thats what a starter at juve gets. Offcourse thats not 'free'


Why are you against this signing

- At this point, Kessie despite poor experience would add incredibly much by beeing physical and aggressive whilst a good player on the ball. N'zonzi even so much more.





I'll rephrase this for the peasants who cant spell Tielemans correctly.

"If your 3 senior goalkeepers are all injured long term, and you have some kid in the goal who's making mistakes all the time, spending your money on a 5th striker is not wise"
 

rakib567

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Apr 27, 2013
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Here is the raw situation of our current midfield


Is it good at creating and making chances and goals ?

- Yes it does. Marchisio and Pjanic are fantastic. Khedira when in reasonable form aswel. Lemina is a nice talent to have. Meanwhile Dybala, when he can play as he should, is insane.

Does our midfield actually play to the level we can expect from the above quesion ? Why ?

- No. We lack physical presence in the midfield and its really troubling us. Several players are underperforming, most notably pjanic and as a result dybala and higuain, because of this issue. Adding a player who adresses this issue would be a major boost and allows these plays to play as they should


Does witsel solve this issue ?

- No. Witsel is another pjanic without all the talent and much less working, so that doesnt solve anything

But zach, is witsel almost free ?

- He's on 3 mil wages. Thats what a starter at juve gets. Offcourse thats not 'free'


Why are you against this signing

- At this point, Kessie despite poor experience would add incredibly much by beeing physical and aggressive whilst a good player on the ball. N'zonzi even so much more.





I'll rephrase this for the peasants who cant spell Tielemans correctly.

"If your 3 senior goalkeepers are all injured long term, and you have some kid in the goal who's making mistakes all the time, spending your money on a 5th striker is not wise"

go to bed
 

Zacheryah

Senior Member
Aug 29, 2010
42,251
Know your place retard. You are the one posting brainless formations and nonsense mercato's that showcases his inability of using all his 5 braincells at the same time.



We need a an aggressive physical player to greatly improve Pjanic and to lesser extend, Khedira/Marchisio. Witsel is not that player. He in fact is the opposite, and like Pjanic a player who is frail and requires others to do the bossing and recovering when not in possession.

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depends what wages will he be on. 4M are Khedira level wages (was supposed to get that much in the summer, will probably get that if we sign him) and if he doesent turn starter (or atleast that 4th choice mid in 352, that we field as a starter when we go 4312) for us you get an expensive sub on your payroll. player quality wise on our current midfield hes only behind our starting trio (Pjanic backup for the 352, starting LCM with Mire as AM in the 4312) so for now he should be fine atleast.

now, if he is the type of CM we need at the moment i wont go into. let Allegri and co decide if he fits in
He's on 3 mil and we all know that will probably even improve.

Quality wise is silly, lets see what he ads ? Wel, with marchisio and pjanic, and khedira, he adds nothing. In fact Lemina adds more cause of the team effect due to his aggressive nature
 

rakib567

Senior Member
Apr 27, 2013
10,087
Know your place retard. You are the one posting brainless formations and nonsense mercato's that showcases his inability of using all his 5 braincells at the same time.



We need a an aggressive physical player to greatly improve Pjanic and to lesser extend, Khedira/Marchisio. Witsel is not that player. He in fact is the opposite, and like Pjanic a player who is frail and requires others to do the bossing and recovering when not in possession.

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He's on 3 mil and we all know that will probably even improve.

Quality wise is silly, lets see what he ads ? Wel, with marchisio and pjanic, and khedira, he adds nothing. In fact Lemina adds more cause of the team effect due to his aggressive nature
Football expert here. watches couple of witsel games and knows everything. You probably got witsel's afro confused with fellaini's afro.
 

Bianconero_Aus

Beppe Marotta Is My God
May 26, 2009
81,130
I wouldn't mind Nzonzi but it doesn't make sense to drop 30M on a player we cant use in the CL now...even if it means we can rest Marchisio/Khedira etc in Serie A games, I prefer we just go for Witsel or some other good CM now that is eligible for the CL.
 

Zacheryah

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Aug 29, 2010
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Football expert here. watches couple of witsel games and knows everything. You probably got witsel's afro confused with fellaini's afro.
he played at standard for 5 years and has 80 caps for the national team.


I've watched more games involving Witsel, then all the fancy players you make formations about combined.


Which explains why i can explain what type of player he is, whilst you think he's a DM/AM.


Well, that and your lack of braincells.
 

Robee

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Jun 21, 2011
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The thing is we need someone to feature in the CL now... While N'Zonzi and Kessie and whoever is being mentioned might be good or even become better players, they can not play in the CL the coming months. So I suggest anyone who is opposed to Witsel, mentions someone who can and no Kessie is not coming before July.
 

Osman

Koul Khara!
Aug 30, 2002
61,503
Witsel offers nothing in the CL.
I'm no fan, but he is better then Asamoah, Sturaro and Hernanes, so litterally cannot be offering nothing?



Why dont you make a simple pact, resist the temptation to reply any time you see Witsels name, just wait til he played few months in Juve. Your posts are Pavlonian reactions at this point instead of just mere discussing.
 

Zacheryah

Senior Member
Aug 29, 2010
42,251
I'm no fan, but he is better then Asamoah, Sturaro and Hernanes, so litterally cannot be offering nothing?



Why dont you make a simple pact, resist the temptation to reply any time you see Witsels name, just wait til he played few months in Juve. Your posts are Pavlonian reactions at this point instead of just mere discussing.
Osman, this guy will fill the roster and salarylist, making it harder to get the CM's we actually need.
 

Osman

Koul Khara!
Aug 30, 2002
61,503
Its a valid concern in long term, but its not adding nothing, when as said our midfield has detoriated to a level where we see too much of players who are inferior then him get minutes.



As I said, you should gotten tired of repeating yourself by now.
 
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