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zizinho

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I'd love Goretzka and Tielemans but it'll probably be Witsel, Bentancur, Kessie...
yeah forgot Bentancur but wouldnt he be loaned out 1st? i think he will judging from previous similar transfers. would also be nice if Mandragora could prove himself and stay as vice Marchisio

about Goretzka and Tielsman, one of them would be great, both absolutely amazing. cant see us making so many changes in the team however
 

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    yeah forgot Bentancur but wouldnt he be loaned out 1st? i think he will judging from previous similar transfers. would also be nice if Mandragora could prove himself and stay as vice Marchisio

    about Goretzka and Tielsman, one of them would be great, both absolutely amazing. cant see us making so many changes in the team however
    I think they want to keep Bentancur and yeah, I'd love to see Mandragora play a few games here. Maybe Coppa Italia and some minutes here and there in A.
     

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    I think they want to keep Bentancur and yeah, I'd love to see Mandragora play a few games here. Maybe Coppa Italia and some minutes here and there in A.
    definitely nothing against keeping Bentancur around but not sure we can pull it off number wise. Marchisio, Khedira, Pjanic, Witsel, Kessie, Lemina, Sturaro, Mandragora. already 8 players. if we go 4312 though, maybe we could keep 9-10 mids

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    If we get him I hope we don't play him at LB.
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    well, Evra wont play forever
     
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    definitely nothing against keeping Bentancur around but not sure we can pull it off number wise. Marchisio, Khedira, Pjanic, Witsel, Kessie, Lemina, Sturaro, Mandragora. already 8 players. if we go 4312 though, maybe we could keep 9-10 mids

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    well, Evra wont play forever
    :agree:
     

    rakib567

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    Next years midfield in a 4312:

    Marchisio
    Khedira
    Pjanic
    Witsel
    Kessie
    Lemina
    Sturaro
    Mandragora
    Pjaca
    Draxler/Tielemans/Dahoud/Veratti/Matuidi/Febregas etc..

    One of the problems we encountered this year was finding a vice-marchisio replacement. Hopefully, we can see the growth of mandragora into that vice-marchisio role we need. If that does not happen i can see the likes of Lemina and Pjanic filling that role if needed.

    I think bentacur will probavly be loaned to a sassuolo type club for more experience unless he impresses the team. he might become the desperate number 10 that we need behind our strikers. But i really hope Pjaca recovers well from his injury and fills that role because he looks a fantastic player; he just needs the platform to become so.
     
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    Next years midfield in a 4312:

    Marchisio
    Khedira
    Pjanic
    Kessie
    Lemina
    Sturaro
    Mandragora
    Pjaca
    Draxler/Tielemans/Dahoud/Veratti/Matuidi/Febregas etc..

    One of the problems we encountered this year was finding a vice-marchisio replacement. Hopefully, we can see the growth of mandragora into that vice-marchisio role we need. If that does not happen i can see the likes of Lemina and Pjanic filling that role if needed.

    I think bentacur will probavly be loaned to a sassuolo type club for more experience unless he impresses the team. he might become the desperate number 10 that we need behind our strikers. But i really hope Pjaca recovers well from his injury and fills that role because he looks a fantastic player; he just needs the platform to become so.
    where's Witsel?
     

    rakib567

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    Potentially 10 (11 if you include bentacur) Players for 4 positions. that's a lot; i can see either one of lemina/Sturaro being sold and a loan of mandragora.

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    Also one thing to take into account is the rise of talents like 19 yr old Vitale and 20 yr old Tello who are on loan.
     

    zizinho

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    Next years midfield in a 4312:

    Marchisio
    Khedira
    Pjanic
    Witsel
    Kessie
    Lemina
    Sturaro
    Mandragora
    Pjaca
    Draxler/Tielemans/Dahoud/Veratti/Matuidi/Febregas etc..

    One of the problems we encountered this year was finding a vice-marchisio replacement. Hopefully, we can see the growth of mandragora into that vice-marchisio role we need. If that does not happen i can see the likes of Lemina and Pjanic filling that role if needed.

    I think bentacur will probavly be loaned to a sassuolo type club for more experience unless he impresses the team. he might become the desperate number 10 that we need behind our strikers. But i really hope Pjaca recovers well from his injury and fills that role because he looks a fantastic player; he just needs the platform to become so.
    Potentially 10 (11 if you include bentacur) Players for 4 positions. that's a lot; i can see either one of lemina/Sturaro being sold and a loan of mandragora.

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    Also one thing to take into account is the rise of talents like 19 yr old Vitale and 20 yr old Tello who are on loan.
    which is why we wont buy so many

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    that money can buy you 3 ousmane dembele if you have good scouts..
    we can buy Dembeles without selling Leminas
     

    rakib567

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    which is why we wont buy so many

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    we can buy Dembeles without selling Leminas
    If we switch to a 4312 with Pjanic as number 10, the best possible midfield would include Khedira Marchisio Witsel which imo isn't good enough.
    A backup of Kessie-Lemina-Sturaro is better than what we have not and has potential to be great in the future.
    We need a super-signing like veratti or signing of james rodriguez (with pushing pjanic back to CM) for example. Alternatives include young players like draxler/dahoud/tielemans and reliance on their development.
     

    zizinho

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    If we switch to a 4312 with Pjanic as number 10, the best possible midfield would include Khedira Marchisio Witsel which imo isn't good enough.
    A backup of Kessie-Lemina-Sturaro is better than what we have not and has potential to be great in the future.
    We need a super-signing like veratti or signing of james rodriguez (with pushing pjanic back to CM) for example. Alternatives include young players like draxler/dahoud/tielemans and reliance on their development.
    If we switch to 4312, which we dont know yet, we will get 3 mids, 4 max depending on who leaves (if we don't switch to 4312, then no more than 3 new mids definitely, including Bentancur) will be signed. Marchisio, Khedira/high profile expensive mid, Pjanic, Lemina, Sturaro, Witsel, Kessie, Bentancur, Mandragora/Sensi/no one.
     

    DAiDEViL

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    that money can buy you 3 ousmane dembele if you have good scouts..
    The same good scouts/management who thought they could replace Hummels with Bartra, bought back that trainwreck Götze,
    and paid €30m for Schürrle. But you are right, they do have an eye for future Bayern players, no one scouts them like Dortmund.

    We only scouted:

    Pogba (signed for €300k sold for a world record fee.)
    Coman (signed for €300k, soon to be sold for combined €28m)

    We also don't need to scout many talents, because unlike Dortmund, we bring in already established players, such as:
    Pirlo, Tevez, Barzagli, Khedira, Higuain, Mandzukic, Pjanic, Benatia, Evra, Dani Alves or Cuadrado on a regular basis, and most of them for dirt cheap. :beppe:

    Add young players like Rugani, who looks like he's gonna be a starter soon, Lirola, Pjaca, Dybala,
    Kean (i bet we could already sell him for €30m), Alex Sandro, Lemina, and all the other talents we loaned out
    or are playing in the primavera. (I'm too lazy to name them all. Check them out on your own.)

    In the end i think it's not toooo bad.

    At least we aren't going to give away our WC striker for free (and to our direct rivals.)...
    ...or sell our captain for €35m (and again, to a direct rivals.)

    Is our management perfect? No, but i think they've done a pretty decent job so far.

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    *Dembele did cost €15m
     
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