Winter mercato thread 2016-17 (24 Viewers)

[dolph]

Interesting to think back a couple of months, in the same thread, people were laughing and ridiculing the idea of getting Matuidi and Witsel. The total hypocrisy manifested itself when they were both labeled as not "Juve Quality" and yet, we field the likes of Sturaro and Hernanes week in and out.

Having even just one of these players would be a Godsend in this ClusterFu#k of a situation we find ourselves in right now.

Hell, even signing Sissoko or Darmian would bring some breathing space.

The irony.

I really hope we can weather this storm, but it looks a bit grim to be honest. May the Force be with us. :flag3:

Matuidi and Witsel will ad very litle. At the same time we would use 50 m + on transfers and raise our wagebill by 20 m, by adding a 28 year old and a 30 year old. It would help us a little this year by adding better bench options, but it would hurt us massively in the future.

 

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[Robee]

Matuidi and Witsel will ad very litle. At the same time we would use 50 m + on transfers and raise our wagebill by 20 m, by adding a 28 year old and a 30 year old. It would help us a little this year by adding better bench options, but it would hurt us massively in the future.

It would add so much more than you think. First of all they're physical beasts and we're truly lacking in that department. It would free up Marchisio, Pjanic and Pjaca, Dybala so much more. Secondly they'd probably make a 4-3-1-2 or 4-3-2-1 our starting formation which it should be, especially with all our defensive injuries.

Looking at them individually they don't immediately amaze anyone but they're both useful players in a team clearly lacking midfield steel. And no I didn't want Witsel in the summer. I despise the guy but there is no denying what he would bring to the field right now instead of Hernanes, Sturaro, Asamoah or even Lemina.

 

[Hist]

Why the fuck would we be so interested in Lukaku unless we think Dybala can play as some sort of TQ/SS behind 2 strikers.

Not giving up on fat boy already are we.

He will ask to leave after this glorious season.

 

[rakib567]

In january i think we might recall back Zaza and possibly even Lirola from sassuolo. Then, if we can add someone like N'Zonzi or MAtuidi to our ranks.

 

[Robee]

In january i think we might recall back Zaza and possibly even Lirola from sassuolo. Then, if we can add someone like N'Zonzi or MAtuidi to our ranks.

Well neither N'Zonzi nor Matuidi are eligible to play in the CL. I don't see the point in buying those two then when we can possibly get them in the summer at a lower price. And we don't exactly need them to win Serie A...

At this point I see Witsel as a bigger priority because of that and pinning down a talent like Kessie before anyone else does would be great as well.

 

[GiocataGrande]

Matuidi and Witsel will ad very litle. At the same time we would use 50 m + on transfers and raise our wagebill by 20 m, by adding a 28 year old and a 30 year old. It would help us a little this year by adding better bench options, but it would hurt us massively in the future.

28 or 30, does not matter, as long as they bring quality and free up the team formation wise. They would add experience, stability and some steel to our fragile and delicate midfield, in other words: just what we need!

 

[Orgut]

All you Lukaku fappers... You know he isnt that good right?! I mean yes he scores when you give him the opportunity but put that aside he is not a player that is involved in a match too much...
Buying Lukaku for 70M is the definition of overpaying!
As for Dybala - I hope we keep him but if we sell him I rather see us go for someone like Sanchez

 

[Fr3sh]

Fuck I M done. If u r really done, then thats funny. Got it? Of cours I m drunk

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[Quetzalcoatl]

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[Fr3sh]

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[PedroFlu]

Wow, really? Desperate times alright.

That was a joke on some reports we might go for him.. it would be sad

 

[Ronn]

Nos posting drunk on Tuz. He feels at home

His drunk version is much better than his usual self

 

[Sir Miss-A-Lot]

In january i think we might recall back Zaza and possibly even Lirola from sassuolo. Then, if we can add someone like N'Zonzi or MAtuidi to our ranks.

Zaza can not be recalled. Also, i wouldn't see that happening anyway... He is gone, West Ham have given him enough games for the option to become an obligation

 

[rakib567]

I think it's not time to swtich to a wing based system. This is how we are going to get the best out of dybala and higuain whilst also developing talents like kean. Since we don't have the dynamic pogba & vidal in our ranks, we can't make a threat from midfield anymore. A midfield of two would be much more suitable and would allow more rotation to occur. If we have something similar to atletico madrid but with tactical flexibility to a 433 or 352 when needed we will be much stonger.

Given that we already have cuadrado & pjaca as wingers and potential berardi next year, it woudnt make sense to switch to a 4312. Additionally there arent many world class AM/CMs available to improve our squad. There are, however, a lot of wingers available on the market to make our squad more dynamic.

 

[dolph]

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Tolisso Please be true

It would add so much more than you think. First of all they're physical beasts and we're truly lacking in that department. It would free up Marchisio, Pjanic and Pjaca, Dybala so much more. Secondly they'd probably make a 4-3-1-2 or 4-3-2-1 our starting formation which it should be, especially with all our defensive injuries.

Looking at them individually they don't immediately amaze anyone but they're both useful players in a team clearly lacking midfield steel. And no I didn't want Witsel in the summer. I despise the guy but there is no denying what he would bring to the field right now instead of Hernanes, Sturaro, Asamoah or even Lemina.

Witsel has a lot of similarities with Khedira. Despite their big frames the are not really physical players. Matuidi is more energetic than physical. Hes best attributes are hes powerfull runs without the ball into the opponents box. Allthough that is something we also lack, I dont agree on the freeing up Dybala, Pjaca, Pjanic part. For that you need another kind of player. Kante or Vidal fx.

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maybe turin is underrated but milan and neapol are overrated, some great places but dirty, filthy garbage cities.



Tolisso Please be true

28 or 30, does not matter, as long as they bring quality and free up the team formation wise. They would add experience, stability and some steel to our fragile and delicate midfield, in other words: just what we need!

Offcourse age matters. We have the oldest squad and starting 11 in Seria A and in the CL. If we keep adding players in their late 20 early thirtees with big wages, we dont have the funds to build the team long term to. If we add players of that age we better be sure they are going to improve the team massively or come at great deals. Matuidi with a transfersum of 30-40 m, and 10 in wages, and Witsel with a transfersum of 25 m and 10 m wages, which was the numbers being mentioned this summer, is neither. Its just shortsighted.

 

[GiocataGrande]

I agree that age matters in the long run, but were talking about a short term solution here. Our midfield is in a crisis and thats a fact, whether you like to think so or not. We need to act now, and should have done so in already the summer. If paying a bit too much means that we get the depth needed to be a success this year in different competitions, or at least competitive at the very least, then we should do so, regardless if it is "financially shortsighted" or not. The point here is to be pro active and actually do something about a situation, instead of being passive and waiting for more problems to arrive, when its too late. we need to cover a role in our midfield department. Regardless If that job is going to be done by a 24 year old or a 30 year old, its got to be done.

 

[dolph]

maybe turin is underrated but milan and neapol are overrated, some great places but dirty, filthy garbage cities.



Tolisso Please be true

I agree that age matters in the long run, but were talking about a short term solution here. Our midfield is in a crisis and thats a fact, whether you like to think so or not. We need to act now, and should have done so in already the summer. If paying a bit too much means that we get the depth needed to be a success this year in different competitions, or at least competitive at the very least, then we should do so, regardless if it is "financially shortsighted" or not. The point here is to be pro active and actually do something about a situation, instead of being passive and waiting for more problems to arrive, when its too late. we need to cover a role in our midfield department. Regardless If that job is going to be done by a 24 year old or a 30 year old, its got to be done.

My point is that adding Matuidi, Witsel, Darmian or Sissoko is not going to make us CHL contenders this year, as neither will improve the quality of the team significantly. At the same time I believe we are going to win the scudetto anyway. Shortsighted finansiel planning is also shortsighted planning on a sporting level as the two are closely interconnected. I would rather build the team properly with a aim of long term succes, than end up like another Milan og Inter, by adding "older" players with High wages as stopgape solution, in acts of panic.

 

[Robee]

My point is that adding Matuidi, Witsel, Darmian or Sissoko is not going to make us CHL contenders this year, as neither will improve the quality of the team significantly. At the same time I believe we are going to win the scudetto anyway. Shortsighted finansiel planning is also shortsighted planning on a sporting level as the two are closely interconnected. I would rather build the team properly with a aim of long term succes, than end up like another Milan og Inter, by adding "older" players with High wages as stopgape solution, in acts of panic.

No it wouldn't make us CL contenders all of a sudden but for instance Witsel is cheap and would be a great improvement over Sturaro. Also yes Witsel ain't physical like Vidal was but "physical" has a broad meaning and Witsel is very strong in one-on-ones and barely loses a ball even in tight spaces. He can definitely carry some of the burden the attack is doing now. And his positioning is very clever which would help Marchisio as well. Cause right now our midfield is non existing.

That doesn't mean we shouldn't invest any further in the summer. Another starter is needed but we shouldn't act as if we're broke. Selling Sturaro would immediately finance Witsel.

Also Matuidi's energy is exactly why he would come in handy. We don't have that at all right now. Pogba used to make runs at the opposing defence, now we don't have a midfielder who does that...

 

[Xperd]

Paratici is willing to close the deal for Kessie now but the player will only leave Atalanta in the summer. [Pedulla]

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Juventus have had contatcs with Atalanta also for Caldara. Paratici was in Germany, Juve are interested in Dahoud & Goretzka. [Pedulla]

 

[pitbull]

I think it's not time to swtich to a wing based system. This is how we are going to get the best out of dybala and higuain whilst also developing talents like kean. Since we don't have the dynamic pogba & vidal in our ranks, we can't make a threat from midfield anymore. A midfield of two would be much more suitable and would allow more rotation to occur. If we have something similar to atletico madrid but with tactical flexibility to a 433 or 352 when needed we will be much stonger.

Given that we already have cuadrado & pjaca as wingers and potential berardi next year, it woudnt make sense to switch to a 4312. Additionally there arent many world class AM/CMs available to improve our squad. There are, however, a lot of wingers available on the market to make our squad more dynamic.

If our midfield of 3 players is getting run over and can't hold it's own against Genoa or Inter, how do you think moving to 2 midfielders is going to help? A midfield duo of Pjanič and Khedira would only dominate against a pair of turtle ballet dancers