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I think I suggested Destro as a 4th choice depth striker, which I still stand by as an decent depth option. You can't have world beaters in every position, meaning that depth positions should certainly be filled by domestic players since you have a finite amount of foreign players, and they are higher flight risks. I would still take James Rodriguez over Higuain every day of the week - and I'm sure if you took a poll at the beginning of the transfer window, a good percentage of people would agree, when considering upside, fee, and age. It also has to do with personal preference - as I personally value #10s more than #9s. And if Atletico Madrid can use a guy like Kevin Gameiro, we can have have depth Italian strikers like a Destro, because he would hardly play. We're not Barcelona, and we're not Madrid. Not every player can be world class, but the majority of our starting 11 should be.
But, If you remember, people weren't exactly 100% pleased by the Higuain signing. But as I said, it's a good signing, but just not the best from a budgeting perspective when considering age and price. Somehow, I don't think people would complain if we signed Belotti & James instead of Higuain. Belotti instead of Higuain, sure. But as I said, I'm not advocating that, I said James & Belotti over Higuain. Can't agree on everything though, and everyone is entitled to an opinion.
But, If you remember, people weren't exactly 100% pleased by the Higuain signing. But as I said, it's a good signing, but just not the best from a budgeting perspective when considering age and price. Somehow, I don't think people would complain if we signed Belotti & James instead of Higuain. Belotti instead of Higuain, sure. But as I said, I'm not advocating that, I said James & Belotti over Higuain. Can't agree on everything though, and everyone is entitled to an opinion.
You know, people always ask me you know, what happened to you and how did you overcome what you’ve been through? The title of the message that I’ve been given is “Transforming the walls into doors“. When I speak corporately, the line that I like to use is “changing obstacles into opportunities“.
Now, I am very well aware to share with you as well. I know that there are a billion people going hungry today. I know that this year, a million people will commit suicide. That is one every seconds. I know today there are million slaves and I’ve met sex slaves, and I’ve seen the top of the pyramid as far as business and met the billionaires. I’ve met bankers and I’ve also met orphans.
We’re all looking for something. We’re all looking for hope. Hope you can’t just have just because you were born with hope. No, we’re born with pain. We’re born and live through difficulties.
In our life — my parents always taught me that even though we don’t know why I was born this way, that we have a choice. Either to be angry for what we don’t have or be thankful for what we do have. The power of that choice was the first thing that I had to overcome and decide for myself, especially in the early years of school.
A lot of kids would come up to me and tease me. And I have been speaking at 5 congresses,
I’ve met 7 presidents all around the world. My largest crowd was 110,000, I have 30,000 invitations for me to speak. So wherever I go, I talk about the value of life, I talk about anti-bullying messages for the school systems in different nations.
The greatest thing is love. When we feel like we don’t have enough love and we don’t have enough hope, we start losing strength to live. For me in my life as a child, I had a big wall. I was surrounded by four walls and a low ceiling of opportunity. I was set free in so many different ways and especially surviving from day to day with my parents who loved me, who encouraged me, who told me that I was beautiful the way that I was and not to worry about what other people said about me.
I was actually the first special needs child to be integrated into the mainstream education system in Australia and I was awarded Young Citizen of the Year in 1990. And the world is a hurting place and the world needs hope and world needs love. Without hope, we feel like, 'Why are we here?’
Well, brokenness. Here’s mine. Today, I still have no arms and no legs, but everything’s changed. Everything. For me, I was looking for hope and happiness and I couldn’t see it for many years. In fact, if this side of the table represents my hope, truth encourages me to become all that I can be. But then we have lies, everyday, coming in our mind, people who discourage us.
You know the people that you have in your life who, no matter how good of a day you’re having, they’ll bring you down? Or no matter how bad of a day you’re having, they’ll bring you even lower? You know what I’m talking about?
Think of the 3 biggest discourages in your life. They’re not your biggest discourages. You are. You are. It only takes seconds for me to tell you something discouraging but then, you may never forget my words.
I’ve met so many 50-year-old women and 40-year-old women who still remember what their fathers told them that they wish they’d never heard. Words are powerful. And when you hear those words and then your mind starts growing with these lies. “Nick, you’re not good enough, Nick just give up, Nick you’ll never get a job”, “You won’t get married, you can’t even hold your wife’s hand”. “What kind of a father are you going to be if you can’t even pick up your kids when they’re crying?” You’re alone. Sure, your parents hug you. But their hugs can’t heal you. Just give up. Just give up. Just give up….
At age 8 I thought that I should commit suicide. Why? Because I didn’t have hope. I thought I didn’t have hope. Today you can see that I had hope. What’s the word, believing in something you do not see? Faith.
Words can only do so much. Hugs can do much more than words, but when hugs can’t do anything, that’s where faith kicks in. For me, words and hugs were not enough, but I had no faith. So I tried to give up. At age 10, I tried to drown myself in 6 inches, or 15 centimeters of water, in my home. I told my dad I just wanted to relax, but really, I wanted to end my life. I had enough. I had enough. Ok?
The first two times I rolled over. I was trying to work out how much air I hold in my lungs before I let it out. And the third time, in my mind, knowing that I wanted to get out of here, because of the bullying in my life, because I was going to be a burden to my parents and I had nothing to look forward to. I realized at that moment that if I actually went through with committing suicide, I would leave a greater burden for my parents than they already had.
Still there was one thing less… sorry, there was one thing less hopeful or more burdensome than having a child without limbs. What is it? A child without limbs who gives up. So when I saw in my mind my mom and my dad and my brother crying at my grave if I went through with it, that one thought saved me.
If my parents never told me that I was beautiful the way I was. If my parents never told me that I was special and that I was loved, I wouldn’t be here today. So I encourage every single parent who tries their best to encourage their teenagers, especially in the West, many teenagers put a 'do not disturb’ sign on their door. I’m sure, you know, the conversations all around the world between a parent and a teenager: How was school? – Fine. – What did you learn? – Nothing. – Did you do your homework? – No. And that’s the conversation for the day.
And when you try to tell your children that they’re beautiful, they say, “Of course I’m beautiful, I’m your son, your daughter, of course you’re going to say that”. But they’re right. Every single human being has value and my value is not determined on how I look or what job I have, or where I’m from, where I was born, how much money, all that stuff is nothing.
So many teenagers, you know, tease each other for how we look and I tell the teenagers, “Do you think that I’m cool enough to be your friend?” And they’re like, “Yeah, of course”. I say, “But I have no arms and no legs”, and they say, “Doesn’t matter.” And I say, “Really? So it doesn’t matter that I have no arms and no legs?” They say, no, it doesn’t matter. I say then, “Actually, if it doesn’t matter, then why do we kill each other with our words, if it actually doesn’t matter?” Why do we look ourselves in the mirror and see ugly instead of valuable?
I want to ask you today, what are you looking for? If I gave you a billion dollars, would you be happy? If you gave me a billion dollars, I’d be very happy. But then if my mom dies tonight, am I happy? No. With all the money in the world, I’d never be happy. Right? Because money is something that cannot heal the soul.
So many teenagers are looking for love which, love does heal the soul, love does complete the soul. But even sex before marriage, I was a virgin before I got married. Yeah, I’ve got a gorgeous wife, we’re pregnant with our first son. And I don’t need hands to hold her hand. I only want to hold her heart.
Now, I am very well aware to share with you as well. I know that there are a billion people going hungry today. I know that this year, a million people will commit suicide. That is one every seconds. I know today there are million slaves and I’ve met sex slaves, and I’ve seen the top of the pyramid as far as business and met the billionaires. I’ve met bankers and I’ve also met orphans.
We’re all looking for something. We’re all looking for hope. Hope you can’t just have just because you were born with hope. No, we’re born with pain. We’re born and live through difficulties.
In our life — my parents always taught me that even though we don’t know why I was born this way, that we have a choice. Either to be angry for what we don’t have or be thankful for what we do have. The power of that choice was the first thing that I had to overcome and decide for myself, especially in the early years of school.
A lot of kids would come up to me and tease me. And I have been speaking at 5 congresses,
I’ve met 7 presidents all around the world. My largest crowd was 110,000, I have 30,000 invitations for me to speak. So wherever I go, I talk about the value of life, I talk about anti-bullying messages for the school systems in different nations.
The greatest thing is love. When we feel like we don’t have enough love and we don’t have enough hope, we start losing strength to live. For me in my life as a child, I had a big wall. I was surrounded by four walls and a low ceiling of opportunity. I was set free in so many different ways and especially surviving from day to day with my parents who loved me, who encouraged me, who told me that I was beautiful the way that I was and not to worry about what other people said about me.
I was actually the first special needs child to be integrated into the mainstream education system in Australia and I was awarded Young Citizen of the Year in 1990. And the world is a hurting place and the world needs hope and world needs love. Without hope, we feel like, 'Why are we here?’
Well, brokenness. Here’s mine. Today, I still have no arms and no legs, but everything’s changed. Everything. For me, I was looking for hope and happiness and I couldn’t see it for many years. In fact, if this side of the table represents my hope, truth encourages me to become all that I can be. But then we have lies, everyday, coming in our mind, people who discourage us.
You know the people that you have in your life who, no matter how good of a day you’re having, they’ll bring you down? Or no matter how bad of a day you’re having, they’ll bring you even lower? You know what I’m talking about?
Think of the 3 biggest discourages in your life. They’re not your biggest discourages. You are. You are. It only takes seconds for me to tell you something discouraging but then, you may never forget my words.
I’ve met so many 50-year-old women and 40-year-old women who still remember what their fathers told them that they wish they’d never heard. Words are powerful. And when you hear those words and then your mind starts growing with these lies. “Nick, you’re not good enough, Nick just give up, Nick you’ll never get a job”, “You won’t get married, you can’t even hold your wife’s hand”. “What kind of a father are you going to be if you can’t even pick up your kids when they’re crying?” You’re alone. Sure, your parents hug you. But their hugs can’t heal you. Just give up. Just give up. Just give up….
At age 8 I thought that I should commit suicide. Why? Because I didn’t have hope. I thought I didn’t have hope. Today you can see that I had hope. What’s the word, believing in something you do not see? Faith.
Words can only do so much. Hugs can do much more than words, but when hugs can’t do anything, that’s where faith kicks in. For me, words and hugs were not enough, but I had no faith. So I tried to give up. At age 10, I tried to drown myself in 6 inches, or 15 centimeters of water, in my home. I told my dad I just wanted to relax, but really, I wanted to end my life. I had enough. I had enough. Ok?
The first two times I rolled over. I was trying to work out how much air I hold in my lungs before I let it out. And the third time, in my mind, knowing that I wanted to get out of here, because of the bullying in my life, because I was going to be a burden to my parents and I had nothing to look forward to. I realized at that moment that if I actually went through with committing suicide, I would leave a greater burden for my parents than they already had.
Still there was one thing less… sorry, there was one thing less hopeful or more burdensome than having a child without limbs. What is it? A child without limbs who gives up. So when I saw in my mind my mom and my dad and my brother crying at my grave if I went through with it, that one thought saved me.
If my parents never told me that I was beautiful the way I was. If my parents never told me that I was special and that I was loved, I wouldn’t be here today. So I encourage every single parent who tries their best to encourage their teenagers, especially in the West, many teenagers put a 'do not disturb’ sign on their door. I’m sure, you know, the conversations all around the world between a parent and a teenager: How was school? – Fine. – What did you learn? – Nothing. – Did you do your homework? – No. And that’s the conversation for the day.
And when you try to tell your children that they’re beautiful, they say, “Of course I’m beautiful, I’m your son, your daughter, of course you’re going to say that”. But they’re right. Every single human being has value and my value is not determined on how I look or what job I have, or where I’m from, where I was born, how much money, all that stuff is nothing.
So many teenagers, you know, tease each other for how we look and I tell the teenagers, “Do you think that I’m cool enough to be your friend?” And they’re like, “Yeah, of course”. I say, “But I have no arms and no legs”, and they say, “Doesn’t matter.” And I say, “Really? So it doesn’t matter that I have no arms and no legs?” They say, no, it doesn’t matter. I say then, “Actually, if it doesn’t matter, then why do we kill each other with our words, if it actually doesn’t matter?” Why do we look ourselves in the mirror and see ugly instead of valuable?
I want to ask you today, what are you looking for? If I gave you a billion dollars, would you be happy? If you gave me a billion dollars, I’d be very happy. But then if my mom dies tonight, am I happy? No. With all the money in the world, I’d never be happy. Right? Because money is something that cannot heal the soul.
So many teenagers are looking for love which, love does heal the soul, love does complete the soul. But even sex before marriage, I was a virgin before I got married. Yeah, I’ve got a gorgeous wife, we’re pregnant with our first son. And I don’t need hands to hold her hand. I only want to hold her heart.
I get you but you are using hindsight considering the Belotti situation as he wasn't nearly as highly rated just two months ago as he is now. Even without the Higuain signing it doesn't bring James into play. There needs to be the will of the player and the club for the player to move and considering James there clearly wasn't as he's still at Real. I think you are selling our club a little short with those Destro suggestions. He isn't even nearly good enough to be even 4th choice for us. He wasn't even good enough for Roma and we just sold a better Italian striker in form of Zaza because he wasn't good enough for us.
We do need to get players through our own system the nationality doesn't matter. Players like Lirola and Kastanos are just as valuable as Kean and Clemenza. Depth players being near world-class is necessary for todays top clubs which we certainly are. Actually it's the biggest difference when comparing the great and the good teams.
We do have completely different views on this though and so be it
We do need to get players through our own system the nationality doesn't matter. Players like Lirola and Kastanos are just as valuable as Kean and Clemenza. Depth players being near world-class is necessary for todays top clubs which we certainly are. Actually it's the biggest difference when comparing the great and the good teams.
We do have completely different views on this though and so be it
...but napoli won't sell, so:
http://www.calciomercato.it/news/40...so-si-fa-sul-serio-ma-servono-37-milioni.html
pista calda!
http://www.calciomercato.it/news/40...so-si-fa-sul-serio-ma-servono-37-milioni.html
pista calda!
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