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ilmetronome

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1.) Tchouameni
2.) Tchouameni
3.) Tchouameni
4.) Zakaria
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120.) VDB
no. 120 could be the case. last games we play 442/352 hybrid or 433. both way we need 3 midfielder. Bentan and locatelli won't be budge as starters.
The other one, in 442/352 hybrid, left mezzalla played by rabiot or berna. a more forward dynamic mezzalla role. last game again zenith we played 433. this time it's mckennie played in right mezzalla on that role. I don't think rabiot, berna, and mckennie are the right choices to give us much advantage in offensive force.
So it could be VdB who play same role in ajax.
unless allegri decide to play loca in that role, but i doubt that.
 

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Bianconero81

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no. 120 could be the case. last games we play 442/352 hybrid or 433. both way we need 3 midfielder. Bentan and locatelli won't be budge as starters.
The other one, in 442/352 hybrid, left mezzalla played by rabiot or berna. a more forward dynamic mezzalla role. last game again zenith we played 433. this time it's mckennie played in right mezzalla on that role. I don't think rabiot, berna, and mckennie are the right choices to give us much advantage in offensive force.
So it could be VdB who play same role in ajax.
unless allegri decide to play loca in that role, but i doubt that.
We should be doing much better than VDB. He's a system player and a Red Cunt Reject. No thanks.

Tchouameni or Gravenberch, keep an eye on more talent in France, Holland and possible Germany (without ignoring the South American and Eastern European markets), bring back Rovella, and allow Fagiolo to develop more. Our midfield can go from average to very promising in two summers.

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@Bianconero81 weren't you quite keen on this guy?
I still am, but there is a slight problem. His agent is the fat cunt, and we will probably be selling him to the EPL in 3-4 seasons if we do manage to acquire him.

I'd love Tielemans here, but the competition is stiff, and he'd cost upwards of 60 million. I also don't believe he wants to leave the EPL - assuming he does, teams like Real and Bayern have a clear advantage.
 
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ilmetronome

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We should be doing much better than VDB. He's a system player and a Red Cunt Reject. No thanks.

Tchouameni or Gravenberch, keep an eye on more talent in France, Holland and possible Germany (without ignoring the South American and Eastern European markets), bring back Rovella, and allow Fagiolo to develop more. Our midfield can go from average to very promising in two summers.

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Agree that he is not great player, but maybe cherubini will do it because opportunity haha
As Agresti said we want a midfielder and he is the one most possible among others.

If it's up to me, i want another too.
 

IlCapitano

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We need a playmaker in midfield so so so so so so so so so so so bad. If I hear one more rumour about Vlahović or Tchouameni before we sign even someone like fucking Castrovilli, let alone Pogba or Tielemans, I will poke my eyes out.

Matuidi and Khedira had more creativity than this lot. At least they knew how to run forward instead of sideways.
 
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juve123

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We need a playmaker in midfield so so so so so so so so so so so bad. If I hear one more rumour about Vlahović or Tchouameni before we sign even someone like fucking Castrovilli, let alone Pogba or Tielemans, I will poke my eyes out.

Matuidi and Khedira had more creativity than this lot. At least they know how run forward instead of sideways.
If we aren't as predictable in our attacks then even a creative midfielder won't help
 

Hist

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We need a playmaker in midfield so so so so so so so so so so so bad. If I hear one more rumour about Vlahović or Tchouameni before we sign even someone like fucking Castrovilli, let alone Pogba or Tielemans, I will poke my eyes out.

Matuidi and Khedira had more creativity than this lot. At least they knew how to run forward instead of sideways.
That kid keeps scoring one wonder goal after another holy shit
 

LiquidPLP

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I actually awatched the part with Agresti. Hardly anything new mentioned tbh.

What Agresti said:
- renewal with Dybala is done, he will earn around 10m net, announcement should arrive shortly. The next in line is Cuadrado.
- Juve are very happy with Kaio, he's very professional. 3 Serie A clubs asked about a loan for January but Max likes him a lot and wants to keep him.
- Kean is acting well, he's professional but he needs to work a lot in order to improve. Agresti doesn't see him as a classic #9 but as a someone who could play next to one. Seems like he's working a lot to become a more complete #9.
- CR7 decided to leave after going out against Porto. After the Euro he came back to Continassa and said he wasn't staying. The club was willing to let him go to start a new project but the actual sale came a bit too late.
- CR7 replacement was supposed to be one between Vlahovic and Dzeko. Vlahovic was deemed not for sale by Viola, Dzeko was intercepted by inda very quickly once they understood Lukaku was leaving. Hence why Kean was signed.
- There were requests regarding Kulu last Summer but Juve decided to keep him. He won't leave in January but will be evaluated in June.
- McKennie had to loan offers: from Spurs and Villa. If there's an offer for a permanent sale in January, Juve will consider it.
- Ramsey is out of the project and he can go back to EPL, Juve is willing to find a solution.
- Juve's priority last Summer was Locatelli but they also asked about Tchouameni.
- Agresti is sure that Juve will sign a CM in January, especially if they offload one between McKennie and Ramsey. Tchouameni is too difficult to get. Max wants a strong and technical mid. The hot name is Witsel but he's sure there are other options.
- Van De Beek is not an option.
- Chiesa is not for sale, even if all the top clubs would like to have him.
- Juve plans to keep De Ligt but never say never with Raiola. MDL is happy at Juve, has a good relationship with Max.
- Agresti is sure Juve will evaluate Romagnoli for free. Milan rejected a swap with Berna last Summer.
- Demiral asked to leave in June. Agresti thinks that he will stay there as he's doing well for them.
- Morata's situation is unknown. Juve will for sure try to renegotiate the deal. Should they sign a top striker (Vlahovic for example), then Morty most probably will go back to Madrid.
- If Valhovic stays at Viola till the Summer, Juve will try but there's a lot of competition for him.
- Pogba as a free agent is a dream but impossible at this point, Juve is not targeting this kind of players. They could give it a try but again, the competition for him makes it unlikely.
 

juve123

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I actually awatched the part with Agresti. Hardly anything new mentioned tbh.

What Agresti said:
- renewal with Dybala is done, he will earn around 10m net, announcement should arrive shortly. The next in line is Cuadrado.
- Juve are very happy with Kaio, he's very professional. 3 Serie A clubs asked about a loan for January but Max likes him a lot and wants to keep him.
- Kean is acting well, he's professional but he needs to work a lot in order to improve. Agresti doesn't see him as a classic #9 but as a someone who could play next to one. Seems like he's working a lot to become a more complete #9.
- CR7 decided to leave after going out against Porto. After the Euro he came back to Continassa and said he wasn't staying. The club was willing to let him go to start a new project but the actual sale came a bit too late.
- CR7 replacement was supposed to be one between Vlahovic and Dzeko. Vlahovic was deemed not for sale by Viola, Dzeko was intercepted by inda very quickly once they understood Lukaku was leaving. Hence why Kean was signed.
- There were requests regarding Kulu last Summer but Juve decided to keep him. He won't leave in January but will be evaluated in June.
- McKennie had to loan offers: from Spurs and Villa. If there's an offer for a permanent sale in January, Juve will consider it.
- Ramsey is out of the project and he can go back to EPL, Juve is willing to find a solution.
- Juve's priority last Summer was Locatelli but they also asked about Tchouameni.
- Agresti is sure that Juve will sign a CM in January, especially if they offload one between McKennie and Ramsey. Tchouameni is too difficult to get. Max wants a strong and technical mid. The hot name is Witsel but he's sure there are other options.
- Van De Beek is not an option.
- Chiesa is not for sale, even if all the top clubs would like to have him.
- Juve plans to keep De Ligt but never say never with Raiola. MDL is happy at Juve, has a good relationship with Max.
- Agresti is sure Juve will evaluate Romagnoli for free. Milan rejected a swap with Berna last Summer.
- Demiral asked to leave in June. Agresti thinks that he will stay there as he's doing well for them.
- Morata's situation is unknown. Juve will for sure try to renegotiate the deal. Should they sign a top striker (Vlahovic for example), then Morty most probably will go back to Madrid.
- If Valhovic stays at Viola till the Summer, Juve will try but there's a lot of competition for him.
- Pogba as a free agent is a dream but impossible at this point, Juve is not targeting this kind of players. They could give it a try but again, the competition for him makes it unlikely.
I hope we sign a quality midfielder and forward rather than Witsel or somebody else
 

LiquidPLP

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I hope we sign a quality midfielder and forward rather than Witsel or somebody else
I should probably mention this more explicitly - if a CM arrives in January, it will be with Allegri's acceptance. Juve is looking around right now and without Max's ok, no player will be signed.

So let's hope Max knows his stuff.
 

juve123

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Aug 10, 2017
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I should probably mention this more explicitly - if a CM arrives in January, it will be with Allegri's acceptance. Juve is looking around right now and without Max's ok, no player will be signed.

So let's hope Max knows his stuff.
Hard to believe that Allegri has the full control of the transfers though he does have a say but how much money is available in the transfer market if we sign Vlahovic
 

LiquidPLP

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Hard to believe that Allegri has the full control of the transfers though he does have a say but how much money is available in the transfer market if we sign Vlahovic
Why throw Vlahovic into this?

If Vlahovic is sold in January, he will go elsewhere and Agresti was clear on this. There's no money for such a transfer. Only in the Summer and it's still a big if/maybe.

January CM signing will depend on available players on the market, their cost and our sales. If we sell no one, then there will be cash only for the likes of Witsel (an old geezer with expiring contract). If we sell someone, we might have more room for maneuvers aka better profiles.
 

juve123

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Aug 10, 2017
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Why throw Vlahovic into this?

If Vlahovic is sold in January, he will go elsewhere and Agresti was clear on this. There's no money for such a transfer. Only in the Summer and it's still a big if/maybe.

January CM signing will depend on available players on the market, their cost and our sales. If we sell no one, then there will be cash only for the likes of Witsel (an old geezer with expiring contract). If we sell someone, we might have more room for maneuvers aka better profiles.
Obviously he is waiting for Juve to make the move and we have limited transfer budget
 

Orgut

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Why throw Vlahovic into this?

If Vlahovic is sold in January, he will go elsewhere and Agresti was clear on this. There's no money for such a transfer. Only in the Summer and it's still a big if/maybe.

January CM signing will depend on available players on the market, their cost and our sales. If we sell no one, then there will be cash only for the likes of Witsel (an old geezer with expiring contract). If we sell someone, we might have more room for maneuvers aka better profiles.
1. We can loan with obligation (same as we did with Chiesa)
2. Please no Witsel - I would call him a has been but he needs to be it before he can be a has been..
 
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