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Xperd

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If that would the be the only thing we need, then I agree, but in top of all the down-payments we still need to do and the players that need to be replaced in the coming 3-4 transfer windows, I don't think we have that much money to invest on high caliber players unless we sell one of the two big money players we now have
We need a high caliber player in attack or atleast a reasonable quality player rather than loaning a kid.Atm we have only Tevez and he will be leaving at the end of next season.Offense i believe is where we should be 'investing' in.
 

Valerio.

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We need a high caliber player in attack or atleast a reasonable quality player rather than loaning a kid.Atm we have only Tevez and he will be leaving at the end of next season.Offense i believe is where we should be 'investing' in.
Buffon gonna retire soon....
we don't have a real LB aside Evrà
If Pogba is going for big money we'd need a midfielder (always if we don't put back Asamoah back to the CM position)
Pirlo is 35 yrs old i doubt he'll last 2 more years
Tevez will go to finish his career at Boca in a 1 years and half
Llorente will depart for sure this summer.
Giovinco is already a goner


Dude we'd really need to sell Pogba for High Money to renew the team.
Specially in men like Buffon,Pirlo and Tevez who in 2 years won't be Juventus players anymore
 

Xperd

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Buffon gonna retire soon....
we don't have a real LB aside Evrà
If Pogba is going for big money we'd need a midfielder (always if we don't put back Asamoah back to the CM position)
Pirlo is 35 yrs old i doubt he'll last 2 more years
Tevez will go to finish his career at Boca in a 1 years and half
Llorente will depart for sure this summer.
Giovinco is already a goner


Dude we'd really need to sell Pogba for High Money to renew the team.
Specially in men like Buffon,Pirlo and Tevez who in 2 years won't be Juventus players anymore
I never denied that.

But in a scenario where we dont sell Pogba next summer,i want most of our budget to be directed towards attack/creativity.
 

zizinho

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Apr 14, 2013
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Buffon gonna retire soon....
we don't have a real LB aside Evrà
If Pogba is going for big money we'd need a midfielder (always if we don't put back Asamoah back to the CM position)
Pirlo is 35 yrs old i doubt he'll last 2 more years
Tevez will go to finish his career at Boca in a 1 years and half
Llorente will depart for sure this summer.
Giovinco is already a goner


Dude we'd really need to sell Pogba for High Money to renew the team.
Specially in men like Buffon,Pirlo and Tevez who in 2 years won't be Juventus players anymore
no we dont.

Leali

Caceres/Vrsaljko - Bonucci - Chiellini/Rugani - Asamoah

Vidal/Pereyra - Marchisio/Sturaro - Pogba

Berardi - Morata/Zaza - Coman​

+ the players we will sign in the next few mercatos... there is really no need of selling Pogba and he will only leave if he is the one that asks to leave
 

Nzoric

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Jan 16, 2011
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no we dont.

Leali

Caceres/Vrsaljko - Bonucci - Chiellini/Rugani - Asamoah

Vidal/Pereyra - Marchisio/Sturaro - Pogba

Berardi - Morata/Zaza - Coman​

+ the players we will sign in the next few mercatos... there is really no need of selling Pogba and he will only leave if he is the one that asks to leave
Please remember that the two wingers you have listed are either totally unproven in Serie a (Coman) or have shown great signs for a relegation struggler (Berardi). If they develop into European caliber players, we're good - if not we really look shaky.

Furthermore Morata has shown very limited signs of being our future star striker.
 

Pirlo's Beard

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Oct 2, 2013
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A front 3 of Coman Berardi and Morata at this stage in their careers looks like it's 10x better on football manager or some shit as opposed to actually working for Juve. We need more firepower than that, a lot more if we're supposed to be a European powerhouse. That low budget, hopeful young attack should not be what we rely on. We need to aim for much better. Coman may well be a great player in the (distant) future, Berardi isn't even an orthodox winger and we should definitely aim for one proven World Class attacker in the side as a bare mimimum. Zaza, who I prefer from Llorente is still nothing special.
 

Nzoric

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I seriously don't see how Coman has shown anything warranting a tag as a future great player :D . You could see it right away with Pogba, but Coman hasn't shown anything remotely related to Pogba in his first appearances. He should be loaned out imo.

Berardi definitely has a future in the club, though it's still unknown to what extent. Even if he stagnates at the level he is right now, he would be a decent bench option - but not a starting winger.
 

j0ker

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Jan 5, 2006
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I seriously don't see how Coman has shown anything warranting a tag as a future great player :D . You could see it right away with Pogba, but Coman hasn't shown anything remotely related to Pogba in his first appearances. He should be loaned out imo.

Berardi definitely has a future in the club, though it's still unknown to what extent. Even if he stagnates at the level he is right now, he would be a decent bench option - but not a starting winger.
Coman has shown more than Pogba, and will be a WC player.

It's a fact.
 

Xperd

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Jun 1, 2012
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no we dont.

Leali

Caceres/Vrsaljko - Bonucci - Chiellini/Rugani - Asamoah

Vidal/Pereyra - Marchisio/Sturaro - Pogba

Berardi - Morata/Zaza - Coman​

+ the players we will sign in the next few mercatos... there is really no need of selling Pogba and he will only leave if he is the one that asks to leave
Thats a pretty mediocre frontline
 

Ocelot

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Jul 13, 2013
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I seriously don't see how Coman has shown anything warranting a tag as a future great player :D . You could see it right away with Pogba, but Coman hasn't shown anything remotely related to Pogba in his first appearances. He should be loaned out imo.
I think he's definitely shown enough to warrant the title of potential future great player :D

Not many other players show more at his age anyways, Pogba being one of the exceptions. And even he was 1 year older than Coman is now when he joined us. I don't know whether loaning him out will do any good for him as well, I think if he continues to play ~15 games, as he's on track this season so far, he'll develop quite well.

Don't want him to start for us regularly, but in Coppa matches I don't really see why not.
 

Xperd

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What ? I've barely seen Coman play this season..He's been as redundant as Giovinco.He has probably played about a grand total of 200 mins so far(and that includes quite a few 10 min sub appearances) which is hardly enough.
 

zizinho

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Apr 14, 2013
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Please remember that the two wingers you have listed are either totally unproven in Serie a (Coman) or have shown great signs for a relegation struggler (Berardi). If they develop into European caliber players, we're good - if not we really look shaky.

Furthermore Morata has shown very limited signs of being our future star striker.
i agree. but bar the front trio the rest of the team is pretty much what we are using right now (Buffon is staying another 3-4 years i guess), AND we have 3 mercatos infront of us until Tevez leaves to find eventual replacements. its not like the rest of our attack is Cavani and Falcao so it would be impossible to replace them. we have a terrible Llorente and a Giovinco we dont even use. Morata is already showing that he is capable of taking the starting spot over (the current) Llorente, while Berardi and Coman, even if they are exceptional prospects, are no sure things. knowing this, IMO the only player we will struggle to replace is Tevez. if Berardi and/or Coman do become what we expect them, we could say we have done the transition well, if not we are gonna have to find a new player to take over from Tevez. not something that requires the sale of Pogba i think

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Thats a pretty mediocre frontline
not that our current one is full of WC players. also, keep in mind that we will still sign new players, its not like this is a sure thing

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I seriously don't see how Coman has shown anything warranting a tag as a future great player :D . You could see it right away with Pogba, but Coman hasn't shown anything remotely related to Pogba in his first appearances. He should be loaned out imo.

Berardi definitely has a future in the club, though it's still unknown to what extent. Even if he stagnates at the level he is right now, he would be a decent bench option - but not a starting winger.
we havent seen enough of Coman to judge him and claim of him as the next big thing. what i think of it? we signed him for the 1st team at the age of 18 (a year younger than Pogba when he arrived and Berardi when we signed him), gave him Nedveds number, and from the time he played i think he did more than solid. at this stage, and considering our record with young players, he is more likely to fail than to make it, but the things i listed above tell me the club has faith in him, thats enough for me so far
 

Hust

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May 29, 2005
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I seriously don't see how Coman has shown anything warranting a tag as a future great player :D . You could see it right away with Pogba, but Coman hasn't shown anything remotely related to Pogba in his first appearances. He should be loaned out imo.

Berardi definitely has a future in the club, though it's still unknown to what extent. Even if he stagnates at the level he is right now, he would be a decent bench option - but not a starting winger.
He has been consistent for two seasons so far, my biggest worry is his disciplinary record. He might explode in a team that has equally quality players around him. There is a reason IMO why he connects so well with Zaza**, they are both a step ahead of everyone else at Sass. I have more hopes for Berardi making a greater impact here than our other Italian youth.

**Not saying I want Zaza as our starter for next season.

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Anyone see where I'm going with this? :D :numnum:

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summer 2010, hes born in 1987, so 23
What kind of numbers was he putting up at Palermo the two seasons leading up to his departure?
 

Hust

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May 29, 2005
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In the years from 07-10 at Palermo Cavani netted 34 times...in the years from 10-13 at Napoli he netted 78 times (only playing 5 more games at Napoli). That is a ridiculous jump which I attribute to him both growing as a player and making a jump in quality of players around him. My point to all of this, we need to give Morata some more playing time before we judge whether or not he is one for the future. He might not be as prolific as Cavani but I see Morata at least being a 15 goal a season striker, easily. And Morata is of that age where we saw a huge jump in Cavani.
 
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