Way too good for us? 
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Winter Mercato 2015 (25 Viewers)
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You think we can just go out and buy a top 3 player in any position? Nah.
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Not actually true. Considering we'd spend 15-20m on Shaqiri, you have to add to that 15m for Berardi. You already have 35m. The funny thing is they'd be on quite low wages so offloading guys like Giovinco and Pepe would made up for their wages. Transfer fees aren't too low if you add them up though 
But that's the way transfer market works these days. I prefer us going this way instead of buying old 'proven' (in fact mediocre) players. Sure it's always a hit or miss with younger players but they have some resale value and usually lower wages.
Tbh I'd be happy with it too. I really like Berardi, he's not consistent enough yet but he'll become better here with support of our players. Shaqiri's development have stagnated lately but I always liked him and wanted him here for quite along time IMO he's a bit better than Iturbe but would also be cheaper.
You're right but try to remember that Marcelo won't leave RM until they trow him out of there. As for Rodriguez I'm sure he'd like to play for us, but his club will be difficult to deal with. They'll say '30m or gtfo' and there will be nothing for Marotta to do there. They're backed up by VW so they have money and they can afford to reject offers for him.
But that's the way transfer market works these days. I prefer us going this way instead of buying old 'proven' (in fact mediocre) players. Sure it's always a hit or miss with younger players but they have some resale value and usually lower wages.Tbh I'd be happy with it too. I really like Berardi, he's not consistent enough yet but he'll become better here with support of our players. Shaqiri's development have stagnated lately but I always liked him and wanted him here for quite along time
IMO he's a bit better than Iturbe but would also be cheaper.You're right but try to remember that Marcelo won't leave RM until they trow him out of there. As for Rodriguez I'm sure he'd like to play for us, but his club will be difficult to deal with. They'll say '30m or gtfo' and there will be nothing for Marotta to do there. They're backed up by VW so they have money and they can afford to reject offers for him.
100% agree. Our next mercato is already written.
Sturaro coming back from the 1 year loan to Genoa
Berardi for 12-13m
Gabbiadini for 8m
Rugani 4-5m
Selling:
Giovinco (going for free or either really cheap)
Pepe somewhere for free
Pogba or Vidal leaving for big offert
Llorente going as well to Atletico de Madrid
Lichsteiner going for free to PSG (hope he'll renew but seems unlikely. he want his wage doubled)
That way we'll have:
caricare immagini
+ Sturaro,Rugani,Storari and Rubinho
Sturaro coming back from the 1 year loan to Genoa
Berardi for 12-13m
Gabbiadini for 8m
Rugani 4-5m
Selling:
Giovinco (going for free or either really cheap)
Pepe somewhere for free
Pogba or Vidal leaving for big offert
Llorente going as well to Atletico de Madrid
Lichsteiner going for free to PSG (hope he'll renew but seems unlikely. he want his wage doubled)
That way we'll have:
caricare immagini
+ Sturaro,Rugani,Storari and Rubinho
Like muksumplau said, you have low self esteem mate.
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Nah man, we have no chance. He's out of our league. The new-age Giacinto Facchetti, Paolo Maldini, Roberto Carlos and Marcelo all rolled into one. Way out of our league. He's too good for us.
Biggest problem is.... that we have 5 CB.
Bonucci,Ogbonna,Chiellini,Caceres,Barzagli and Rugani....
We'll have to sell someone or send Rugani on Loan.
And while it's true that Caceres can play as RB we'll still have 4 cb for 2 spot.
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Forgot it. like Sturaro and Rugani i coudn't pick him in Futwizz.
Anyhow i bet gonna be this way. We'll spend everything we have in instalments for the players we bought last summer/year and to bring back our promising youngsters due to co-owning coming to end.
We'll prolly sell Pogba due to high offerts and Llorente due to him being 31years old earning 4,5m after tax amd having many great and young strikers. While Lichtsteiner will prolly go somewhere where he can earn more than what we offer him. At the moment he is on 1.8m after tax and to re-new he want a 3years deal but with 3.5m. While Juventus offer him 2.7
Bonucci,Ogbonna,Chiellini,Caceres,Barzagli and Rugani....
We'll have to sell someone or send Rugani on Loan.
And while it's true that Caceres can play as RB we'll still have 4 cb for 2 spot.
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Forgot it. like Sturaro and Rugani i coudn't pick him in Futwizz.
Anyhow i bet gonna be this way. We'll spend everything we have in instalments for the players we bought last summer/year and to bring back our promising youngsters due to co-owning coming to end.
We'll prolly sell Pogba due to high offerts and Llorente due to him being 31years old earning 4,5m after tax amd having many great and young strikers. While Lichtsteiner will prolly go somewhere where he can earn more than what we offer him. At the moment he is on 1.8m after tax and to re-new he want a 3years deal but with 3.5m. While Juventus offer him 2.7
look. you do not and can not speak in absolute terms. no one can about anything or any player. whether we can or cannot sign him holds the same probability of him being the best defender in the league or a complete flop. this is football pal. rodriguez, i like him. alaba, i love him. the bond between alaba and bayern is almost unbreakable unlike rodriguez and wolfsburg. fair game to anyone putting in a decent bid.
I think we can safely assume that with Morata, Coman and Berardi/Gabbiadini our attack is fixed for the future. We should not worry about our Midfield either with Pogba, Pereyra, (maybe sturaro) and Marchisio who can play for at least 4 more years. That leaves us only to worry about the defense and wingers.
Our 3 most dependable defenders are 30+ (licht, chiellio and barzagli). Our only original LB is also 30+. We have Bonucci, Ogbonna and Caseres left. Bonucci and Ogbonna are not very solid, while Caseres hasn't quiet proved he can lead the defense, especially in a back 4.
Depending on the development of Rugani, I would say we need 1 world class CB next season. And thats if we assume we can successfully revert Asamoah back to a LB.
Also we need 2 wingers, at least 1 is absoulotly crucial for next season. I would have to note that I wouldn't mind sacreficing llorente to get a good winger that can play with Tevez and Morata/Berardi/Coman.
To conclud it all I say: CB + Winger/Creative midfielder are our most crucial requerments.
Our 3 most dependable defenders are 30+ (licht, chiellio and barzagli). Our only original LB is also 30+. We have Bonucci, Ogbonna and Caseres left. Bonucci and Ogbonna are not very solid, while Caseres hasn't quiet proved he can lead the defense, especially in a back 4.
Depending on the development of Rugani, I would say we need 1 world class CB next season. And thats if we assume we can successfully revert Asamoah back to a LB.
Also we need 2 wingers, at least 1 is absoulotly crucial for next season. I would have to note that I wouldn't mind sacreficing llorente to get a good winger that can play with Tevez and Morata/Berardi/Coman.
To conclud it all I say: CB + Winger/Creative midfielder are our most crucial requerments.
i expect something like this before the real transfer tinkering begins. basically
in: rugani, berardi, sturaro
out (loan, permanent transfer, end of contract whatever): motta, mattiello, marrone, giovinco
i also expect us to play 4321/4312 which, considering our players, isn´t all that different imo. tevez drifts to the left, pereyra to the right, berardi towards the middle...
- so i guess we will see a defender leave. probably bonucci/ogbonna?
- CM looks really packed and as i expect us to hold on to pogba and vidal once again, i kinda hope that we won´t sacrifice asamoah. pirlo will stay one more year, marchisio forever and romulo and pereyra won´t (can´t?) be sold right after they´ve been purchased. maybe loan sturaro? not sure if that´s even possible, as his contract has some bonus clauses which assume he will play for juve next season (afair)?!
- so we are probably looking for a winger and that´s pretty much it?
- we might also try to buy another defender (nastasic?) but then i guess 2 defenders would have to leave? can´t see this happening.
super excited already ^^
i expect something like this before the real transfer tinkering begins. basically
in: rugani, berardi, sturaro
out (loan, permanent transfer, end of contract whatever): motta, mattiello, marrone, giovinco
i also expect us to play 4321/4312 which, considering our players, isn´t all that different imo. tevez drifts to the left, pereyra to the right, berardi towards the middle...
- so i guess we will see a defender leave. probably bonucci/ogbonna?
- CM looks really packed and as i expect us to hold on to pogba and vidal once again, i kinda hope that we won´t sacrifice asamoah. pirlo will stay one more year, marchisio forever and romulo and pereyra won´t (can´t?) be sold right after they´ve been purchased. maybe loan sturaro? not sure if that´s even possible, as his contract has some bonus clauses which assume he will play for juve next season (afair)?!
- so we are probably looking for a winger and that´s pretty much it?
- we might also try to buy another defender (nastasic?) but then i guess 2 defenders would have to leave? can´t see this happening.
super excited already ^^
also, our team is stacked on all positions for the 4-3-2-1/4-3-1-2 and we really have no clue who will leave in the summer so its hard to predict who our targets will be. the safest bet is probably Ogbonna out, Rugani in. everything else, besides the return of Sturaro and Berardi, is uncertain.
and one more thing about Vidal. if we are ever to sell him, then i think this summer is the safest bet. he has 2 more years on his contract after this season and its always hard to get big money for a player with 1 year left on his contract. so better sell him in 2015 than in 2016 (better keep him forever, but i want to go through all possible scenarios). also, this season so far has shown that he isnt irreplaceable like he was the past 3 years. so if we ever plan to sell him, summer 2015 it is.
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