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chester

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@chester its like you predicted it
It has been an item on Belgian football websites for a while now that Juve is following him so no big surprise for me here.
P.S, the mentioned fee in Belgium is 10MEuro for him.
thats the point Nostradamus doesent want to realize. he thinks no-one (well, atleast German players) playing for a half decent BL side would want to come to Italy. that is not true ofcourse. in the case of De Bruyne i think he means that Wolfsburg is a rich club backed by VW and that they have no intention of selling their best player. we'll see how that will end...
That might indeed be a bigger problem then him not wanting to come.
 

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Nostradamus

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thats the point Nostradamus doesent want to realize. he thinks no-one (well, atleast German players) playing for a half decent BL side would want to come to Italy. that is not true ofcourse. in the case of De Bruyne i think he means that Wolfsburg is a rich club backed by VW and that they have no intention of selling their best player. we'll see how that will end...
What I dont want to realize? Is this a joke or what?

You guys just dont realize, that the Bundesliga is no discounter where you can go to and pick their best players. You obviously also dont realize, that the Serie A is not attractice at all for our top players/talents..most just know that the best way to develop is to stay in the Bundesliga with fantastic coaches, where they r given trust and valuable playtime..Italy is not known for given younger players a chance..pensioneer paradise. Just the money would be a reason for them to leave and risk their progress, but then it is the EPL they would go to..no sane German would do that..the only players, who would consider such a move are the talents one class below, for example the Herrmann and Geis category..like Mustafi.

Maybe a player ll surprise me one day, but until now i always have been right so quote me when I m wrong..good luck with that.

You guys also underestimate the big rivalry between our countries and how bad the majority thinks about the Serie A (shit tactics, shit stadiums, shit atmosphere, vilolence, racism and so on).

Wolfsburg have high ambitions and paying wages like Juve..of course they would never agree to sell de Bruyne..only a fool would think so..BTW they paid around 25m€ for him just last summer. Such clubs can hold onto their players until their contract running down..until then no chance.
 
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It has been an item on Belgian football websites for a while now that Juve is following him so no big surprise for me here.
P.S, the mentioned fee in Belgium is 10MEuro for him.
Do you think the pricetag is fair.

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What I dont want to realize? Is this a joke or what?

You guys just dont realize, that the Bundesliga is no discounter where you can go to and pick their best players. You obviously also dont realize, that the Serie A is not attractice at all for our top players/talents..most just know that the best way to develop is to stay in the Bundesliga with fantastic coaches, where they r given trust and valuable playtime..Italy is not known for given younger players a chance..pensioneer paradise. Just the money would be a reason for them to leave and risk their progress, but then it is the EPL they would go to..no sane German would do that..the only players, who would consider such a move are the talents one class below, for example the Herrmann and Geis category..like Mustafi.

Maybe a player ll surprise me one day, but until now i always have been right so quote me when I m wrong..good luck with that.
Players who leave the bundesliga end up on the bench of other leagues. Get over your league. You write so much bullshit, degrading serie a.
 

zizinho

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What I dont want to realize? Is this a joke or what?

You guys just dont realize, that the Bundesliga is no discounter where you can go to and pick their best players. You obviously also dont realize, that the Serie A is not attractice at all for our top players/talents..most just know that the best way to develop is to stay in the Bundesliga with fantastic coaches, where they r given trust and valuable playtime..Italy is not known for given younger players a chance..pensioneer paradise. Just the money would be a reason for them to leave and risk their progress, but then it is the EPL they would go to..no sane German would do that..the only players, who would consider such a move are the talents one class below, for example the Herrmann and Geis category..like Mustafi.

Maybe a player ll surprise me one day, but until now i always have been right so quote me when I m wrong..good luck with that.
you think someone playing for Stuttgart, Wolfsburg, Gladbach etc. would refuse an offer from Juve? thats what i call deluded. if Juve can afford top talents from Bundesliga or not (they cant at the moment since some of them have release clauses higher than 40M) is a different question. but saying they would never come to serie a is simply not true...
 

Fr3sh

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Jul 12, 2011
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Nostradamus is right, even if we were to attract said young talent, he'd rot on the bench. And Italy is simply a shit country on every level compared to Germany, that's why the Old Lady's fans are fiending for German cock, just like Mussolini used to fiend for Hitler's deck
 

Ocelot

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Jul 13, 2013
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Nostradamus is right, even if we were to attract said young talent, he'd rot on the bench. And Italy is simply a shit country on every level compared to Germany, that's why the Old Lady's fans are fiending for German cock, just like Mussolini used to fiend for Hitler's deck
Although Hitler modeled his party after Mussolini at first...

...but that's a different topic.


And yeah, the major reason no top top young german talent is going to join the Serie A in the next years, is basically the same reason why no top top talent from any team will join Serie A in the next years. They cost a shit ton of money, something no Seria A team has at the moment.

You can easly call this a symptom of the decline Serie A has underwent the past few years, but if we had the money, a player like Firminho would not be a problem to get at all if we tried to, and for guys like the Schalke duo we would have roughly the same chances as English or Spanish top teams.

Someone like Reus is obviously a different matter, as he will only move for a club definitely better than BVB, which probably either means Barca, Real, or Bayern.
 

Ocelot

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Jul 13, 2013
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Regardless, who was who's bitch?
Simply put: Mussolini and the Italian fascists were the first country where fascists (which derives from the Italalian word fascio) came into power, in 1922(?) with their "march on Rome". Hitler and the german fascists, the Nationalsocialists were big admirerers and heavily influenced by them, for example in 1924 Hitler tried to emulate Mussolinis march in a "march on Berlin" in 1924 (mainly dubbed "beer hall putsch", was Hitlers first attempt to seize power, failed, Hitler was imprisoned).

Anyways, as time went on, the germans got more and more powerful (got to power in Germany in 1933), while Mussolini and Italy grew weaker and weaker, at least in comparison, and got more and more dependant on the Nazis in germany. In the final stages of the war, when Mussolini was captured by Italian partisans, Germans had to bust him out, and reinstalled him as the leader of the remaining fascist part of northern Italy as more of puppet-ruler than a legitimate one.



TL;DR, At first Hitler was Mussolinis bitch, later on the opposite.
 

Vlad

In Allegri We Trust
May 23, 2011
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Looking at the potential, the age and what he has showed in the CL this year, I'd say yes.
Taking into account the prices paid for other players, even by our club, then yes, he is worth the 10Euro IMO.
Wow, that's pretty cheap, even for Marotta's standards.
 

Fr3sh

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Jul 12, 2011
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Simply put: Mussolini and the Italian fascists were the first country where fascists (which derives from the Italalian word fascio) came into power, in 1922(?) with their "march on Rome". Hitler and the german fascists, the Nationalsocialists were big admirerers and heavily influenced by them, for example in 1924 Hitler tried to emulate Mussolinis march in a "march on Berlin" in 1924 (mainly dubbed "beer hall putsch", was Hitlers first attempt to seize power, failed, Hitler was imprisoned).

Anyways, as time went on, the germans got more and more powerful (got to power in Germany in 1933), while Mussolini and Italy grew weaker and weaker, at least in comparison, and got more and more dependant on the Nazis in germany. In the final stages of the war, when Mussolini was captured by Italian partisans, Germans had to bust him out, and reinstalled him as the leader of the remaining fascist part of northern Italy as more of puppet-ruler than a legitimate one.



TL;DR, At first Hitler was Mussolinis bitch, later on the opposite.
They're both bitches. Forza Kwame Nkrumah!!!
 

Vlad

In Allegri We Trust
May 23, 2011
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Maybe a player ll surprise me one day, but until now i always have been right so quote me when I m wrong..good luck with that.
The nerve on this guy :lol2:

Wolfsburg have high ambitions and paying wages like Juve..of course they would never agree to sell de Bruyne..only a fool would think so..BTW they paid around 25m€ for him just last summer. Such clubs can hold onto their players until their contract running down..until then no chance.
They aren't paying wages like Juve. What is their salary bill? Yearly income? Are you telling us that Wolfsburg pays anually 170m for players salaries because that is what Juve pays? Ridiculous notion. Serie A >>>>> Bundesloliga. Even in recent times, when most Serie A clubs are struggling, Italian league attracts more interest abroad. Face it, other Bundesloliga clubs are merely feeders for Bayern. No interest there, whatsoever.
 

DelPieroJuve

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German Talents? Fiirmino is the one to go for. he dances around players so easily and can play any of the wings. if we cannot get cuadrado he should be main priority!

Berardi/Gabbiadini/Pereyra-----Tevez/Morata/Llorente-----Firmino/Coman/Konoplyanka
 
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