Why Many Will Be Disappointed Next Year (7 Viewers)
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Essien and Pizzaro fit the bill.
Essien, particularly because of his speed. To be honest, i dont see much wrong with a 4-4-2, as orthodox as it is, it makes for a consistent formation. One may speak of limiting our creativity, but there doesnt seem to be any at the moment, so i woudnt go against this system. However lets see how it bodes for the future, because if we can snap up a good deal on the Aimars or Riquelmes of the world, i dont think Capello would have much problem with working with them. I dont discount the possibility of it staying a 4-4-2 in the future. For now though it does make sense.
Essien, particularly because of his speed. To be honest, i dont see much wrong with a 4-4-2, as orthodox as it is, it makes for a consistent formation. One may speak of limiting our creativity, but there doesnt seem to be any at the moment, so i woudnt go against this system. However lets see how it bodes for the future, because if we can snap up a good deal on the Aimars or Riquelmes of the world, i dont think Capello would have much problem with working with them. I dont discount the possibility of it staying a 4-4-2 in the future. For now though it does make sense.
Very strong post Andy, a (much needed)wake-up call to all the juventini who are dreaming of wonders in the upcoming transfer campaign.
When Capello immediately switched from the 4-3-3 back to the straight 4-4-2 with Nedved's return from injury, despite the 4-3-3 working so well; said it all for me. Capello will not revert from the 4-4-2, with the exception being injuries.
I agree with Baggio though, the 4-4-2 doesn't have to be all that bad. With simply a little more depth in our team(midfield), a good passer of the ball to partner Emerson and a new face on the left flank (someone new or Zambrotta as lmf with chiellini as lb) we'll come a long way improving this team.
I can't help but thinking that Moggi always tends to build teams which are very much so suited to winning the scudetto but inept of going too far in the CL.
When Capello immediately switched from the 4-3-3 back to the straight 4-4-2 with Nedved's return from injury, despite the 4-3-3 working so well; said it all for me. Capello will not revert from the 4-4-2, with the exception being injuries.
I agree with Baggio though, the 4-4-2 doesn't have to be all that bad. With simply a little more depth in our team(midfield), a good passer of the ball to partner Emerson and a new face on the left flank (someone new or Zambrotta as lmf with chiellini as lb) we'll come a long way improving this team.
I can't help but thinking that Moggi always tends to build teams which are very much so suited to winning the scudetto but inept of going too far in the CL.
I think that you are over-reacting with Blasi, just like you did with Olivera at the beginning of the season. Yeah, I'd love to see player like Maresca or Pizarro along with Emerson in the middle, but it's not going to happen, just because Capello knows the reality. Stability in the defensive area is the most important thing in the long run if you've got the squad like ours.
Blasi's job is to cover the midfield and create some space for Zambrotta on the left side. He did it nearly perfectly in the autumn, but then he got tired, and Zambrotta's performances are suffering for that too. Blasi's job isn't about being creative, it's his job to get the ball and make a simple pass to someone who's close, in this case it's probably Emerson. Statistics show it too, because if you look only at the stats, Blasi is our best passer! (1175 / 1063 = 90,4%!!)
It's not easy to play in a club like Juventus, and players like Blasi and Olivera simply couldn't handle the pace all season long. They're still relatively young guys, and they'll learn how to cope with constant pressure when the time goes by. I'm sure that they'll become class-acts for this club, Blasi is the new Tacchinardi, although I preferred Tacchi to play this season instead of Blasi, Capello decided otherwise.
And I'm pretty sure that Capello isn't going with 4-4-2 next season, I think that he's going for his trademark with roma, 3-4-1-2, but that's another story.
I hope you liked reading this, because I didn't like writing it. My english is just way too rusty nowadays, and I don't enjoy this forum anymore, there's just too much crap around... But let's have a debate about this on Messenger or something later on, I could explain my views to you or any other who wants to hear them better that way.
Blasi's job is to cover the midfield and create some space for Zambrotta on the left side. He did it nearly perfectly in the autumn, but then he got tired, and Zambrotta's performances are suffering for that too. Blasi's job isn't about being creative, it's his job to get the ball and make a simple pass to someone who's close, in this case it's probably Emerson. Statistics show it too, because if you look only at the stats, Blasi is our best passer! (1175 / 1063 = 90,4%!!)
It's not easy to play in a club like Juventus, and players like Blasi and Olivera simply couldn't handle the pace all season long. They're still relatively young guys, and they'll learn how to cope with constant pressure when the time goes by. I'm sure that they'll become class-acts for this club, Blasi is the new Tacchinardi, although I preferred Tacchi to play this season instead of Blasi, Capello decided otherwise.
And I'm pretty sure that Capello isn't going with 4-4-2 next season, I think that he's going for his trademark with roma, 3-4-1-2, but that's another story.
I hope you liked reading this, because I didn't like writing it. My english is just way too rusty nowadays, and I don't enjoy this forum anymore, there's just too much crap around... But let's have a debate about this on Messenger or something later on, I could explain my views to you or any other who wants to hear them better that way.
Unfortunately I haven't been able to see much of Juve this season, but every time I did I was really impressed by our defensive strength. It's true we don't have much creativity but like somebody said, if it wins honours I don't care.
Well he doesn't have Totti in his squad anymore... unless he moves Nedved in that role or we buy a world class playmaker.
Well he doesn't have Totti in his squad anymore... unless he moves Nedved in that role or we buy a world class playmaker.
yor article andy..
does it imply that we shud forget abt having antonio cassano at juventus next season?
i wud hate that.true,capello follows a boring system but it really hasnt done too well this season.
reinforcements are needed.
cassano shud be brought on.irrational and hot tempered he may be,but he's a genius and only capello can tame him.
does it imply that we shud forget abt having antonio cassano at juventus next season?
i wud hate that.true,capello follows a boring system but it really hasnt done too well this season.
reinforcements are needed.
cassano shud be brought on.irrational and hot tempered he may be,but he's a genius and only capello can tame him.
Nice Post..
I agree.. If a team play basicly 4-4-2 than they don´t need a playmaker..and I think it is the better tactic. Our problem this season is not the formation we are using, but the way all the players are acting, and I don´t know if it is cappelo´s fault:
I can summarize our problems like this:
1) If a team plays 4-4-2 than they need strong wide players.. this season, we have only Camoranesi, I know that many of juve fans do not like him that much, but he is one of the best players this season for juve. Nedved is not a real playmaker, he is used to play on the left, but he has been allways good, if he has a free role. the wide players must move. They don´t have to stay only on their side, and this is one of our problems this season, there is no movement in the team. the defensive players stay behind and the attackers stay on the penalty box and do not move (except Zlatan). if a team want to create goal scoring chances, all the players have to change their positions all the time, to make space..
And then we need more players fore this position. Camo and nedved can do that allways. I think mutu could play in this positions and this could be great. and then we need anther at least another one.
2)We are playing very slowly, and this is the biggest problem. A team whow is playing definsivly have to play very fast by getting the ball, just to use the space there is. But we are waiting till the all the opposite players are back and then attack. Take a look at chelsea, they are very defensive too, but they so fast in their attacks.
3) we need strong defensive midfield player to play alongside Emerson, Appiah, Blasi and Tachinardi can only destroy and make fouls, they have no creativity. I think rosicsky can play in this role, he played in the defensive midfield for Czech republik in euro 2004.
4) we need back up defenders. The time of Pessoto, Brindelli and Montero is up. we need fresh strong and young defenders, take Barzagli, chivu or Bonera.
3) We need a better striker than trez
I agree.. If a team play basicly 4-4-2 than they don´t need a playmaker..and I think it is the better tactic. Our problem this season is not the formation we are using, but the way all the players are acting, and I don´t know if it is cappelo´s fault:
I can summarize our problems like this:
1) If a team plays 4-4-2 than they need strong wide players.. this season, we have only Camoranesi, I know that many of juve fans do not like him that much, but he is one of the best players this season for juve. Nedved is not a real playmaker, he is used to play on the left, but he has been allways good, if he has a free role. the wide players must move. They don´t have to stay only on their side, and this is one of our problems this season, there is no movement in the team. the defensive players stay behind and the attackers stay on the penalty box and do not move (except Zlatan). if a team want to create goal scoring chances, all the players have to change their positions all the time, to make space..
And then we need more players fore this position. Camo and nedved can do that allways. I think mutu could play in this positions and this could be great. and then we need anther at least another one.
2)We are playing very slowly, and this is the biggest problem. A team whow is playing definsivly have to play very fast by getting the ball, just to use the space there is. But we are waiting till the all the opposite players are back and then attack. Take a look at chelsea, they are very defensive too, but they so fast in their attacks.
3) we need strong defensive midfield player to play alongside Emerson, Appiah, Blasi and Tachinardi can only destroy and make fouls, they have no creativity. I think rosicsky can play in this role, he played in the defensive midfield for Czech republik in euro 2004.
4) we need back up defenders. The time of Pessoto, Brindelli and Montero is up. we need fresh strong and young defenders, take Barzagli, chivu or Bonera.
3) We need a better striker than trez
Well I don't think I'm over-reacting to the performances of Blasi. I know he's a fairly limited player and does a lot of work in midfield, something that Capello obviously appreciates. However if we want to be succesful in the Champions League we must have two central midfielders who can both defend well and are skillful with the ball at their feet. The problem with Blasi is his touches are not good enough yet and whenever he makes a long pass he seems to give the ball away. You are correct in saying Blasi needs someone close to pass the ball to, however we don't really have a natural playmaker in the team who can come pick up the ball from Blasi. Many times Blasi is almost alone in the middle and has to make difficult passes to the wings which do not reach their destination. Sure, he does a lot of work, but his services would be much more appreciated if we had a playmaker infront of him so he only would have to make short passes. But in our system Blasi has the burdon of distributing the ball all over the pitch, and IMO he's not adept enough to do that.
I think Blasi over time will improve his game, however I don't think he's ready yet to be a set feature in our midfield. I have a feeling Moggi will buy Santos Mozart, holding midfielder for Reggina who has a very good passing range and would add some creativity to the team. He also can defend well, not as good as Blasi but the ball control in midfield would make up for it. We must have two central midfielders who are adept in both the attacking and defending aspects of the game.
I'm not sure about that. For that system you must have the right players in the right positions for it to work.
Yes I did enjoy reading it, made me think more about Blasi. And your English is great compared to other members around here.
I think Blasi over time will improve his game, however I don't think he's ready yet to be a set feature in our midfield. I have a feeling Moggi will buy Santos Mozart, holding midfielder for Reggina who has a very good passing range and would add some creativity to the team. He also can defend well, not as good as Blasi but the ball control in midfield would make up for it. We must have two central midfielders who are adept in both the attacking and defending aspects of the game.
I'm not sure about that. For that system you must have the right players in the right positions for it to work.
Yes I did enjoy reading it, made me think more about Blasi. And your English is great compared to other members around here.
I agree entirely. With the lack of creativity in our team we must be direct attacking the opposition, and that calls for pace to catch them off guard. All our attacks this season have been slow and most of the time the defense is ready for it. That's why we need a pacey winger on the left, and I bet Moggi will bring back Chiellini so that Zambrotta can move up to midfield.
This is what I have been wanting for so long, I may not have the time to fully illustrate my ideas but to me the one cheapest way to fix our problem is to put Zambrotta on Attacking left wing.
We can Put Neddy to tandem Emerson, Neddy puts in a lot of work effort he can play some defense and is also dangerous in the attack.
This way we wont need to spend so much money, we just need to bring in a guy who will bring us the goals, a finsiher. I have lost my faith in Trez now so along with DP I think he is dispensible. We need Gila, Bojinov..just somebody with the composure to finish the attacks.
AS for CBs, we have Masiello, he doesn't need to be great, as long as he is consistent and doesn't make big mistakes. Give him space to grow.
We can Put Neddy to tandem Emerson, Neddy puts in a lot of work effort he can play some defense and is also dangerous in the attack.
This way we wont need to spend so much money, we just need to bring in a guy who will bring us the goals, a finsiher. I have lost my faith in Trez now so along with DP I think he is dispensible. We need Gila, Bojinov..just somebody with the composure to finish the attacks.
AS for CBs, we have Masiello, he doesn't need to be great, as long as he is consistent and doesn't make big mistakes. Give him space to grow.
I agree with Neddy not getting younger, but his style of play says that he can perform at midfield, he's still got the energy, although not as much as he use to, its just some quick fix type of thing, surely it would be great if we bought somebody but im just trying to imagine what to do without makin big transfers.