Why don't we just light ourselves on fire (5 Viewers)
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And you call me headstrong 
Like I said, you don't know the subject we were discussing about, you didn't follow it from the beginning. And you are still arguing with me for no point. And you didn't reply my question btw.
Like I said, you don't know the subject we were discussing about, you didn't follow it from the beginning. And you are still arguing with me for no point. And you didn't reply my question btw.
About your question, that's besides the issue.. but ok. Generally no player is bigger than the club blabla. But bringing in Capello would be bad, because of the players leaving.
man what's wrong with you? You keep repeating what you're discussing? If thats the case lets all just watch you alone discussing yourself
We are discussing Capello arrival and Del Piero's relationship with that fag.... By saying he's the leader of that united group means he has the most effect on the team. Don't make things complicated. Your jumping over everyone for no reason.
We are discussing Capello arrival and Del Piero's relationship with that fag.... By saying he's the leader of that united group means he has the most effect on the team. Don't make things complicated. Your jumping over everyone for no reason.
I also agree that Capello coming back would mean the end of DP's and potentially the rest of the "stars" who stuck around during our Serie B "adventure" career's at Juve
Capello isnt very well liked by the players who played for him under both Juve and Madrid (Canna and Emo excluded), and I don't see them sticking around to play for him again
I will go so far as to admit that the Juve management may look to him to guarantee themselves a close to the top finish in next years season, given his past track record. But then, we all see his true colors when it came to the CL.....
Lippi would be my choice to take over, and I could see him having an even bigger role with more responsibility when it comes to transfers and player management (just like coaches in the EPL)
Prandelli would be next, with his skills at developing young players, and getting the best out of the veterans...he is the coach of the future here at Juve, IMO
Like I said in other posts elsewhere, I hope that Don Luciano Moggi is still pulling some strings here...regardless of what some here may think, the man is a football genius, and if anyone thinks Inters title is "clean", and that corruption is gone from our game, then you are just dreaming...
corruption will never be out of Italian football
Capello isnt very well liked by the players who played for him under both Juve and Madrid (Canna and Emo excluded), and I don't see them sticking around to play for him again
I will go so far as to admit that the Juve management may look to him to guarantee themselves a close to the top finish in next years season, given his past track record. But then, we all see his true colors when it came to the CL.....
Lippi would be my choice to take over, and I could see him having an even bigger role with more responsibility when it comes to transfers and player management (just like coaches in the EPL)
Prandelli would be next, with his skills at developing young players, and getting the best out of the veterans...he is the coach of the future here at Juve, IMO
Like I said in other posts elsewhere, I hope that Don Luciano Moggi is still pulling some strings here...regardless of what some here may think, the man is a football genius, and if anyone thinks Inters title is "clean", and that corruption is gone from our game, then you are just dreaming...
corruption will never be out of Italian football
thank you, next time please read it from the beginning, because it exhausts me If I have to repeat myself to everyone. when you read it from the middle, you take them all wrong..
that's the issues itself. everyone explained the reason they don't want Capello, I gave mine. but when someone comes and tell because Del piero leave, then I can't hold myself to express my disgust. I don't want Capello because He can't take this Club to the best, he tried and failed. No point bringing him again or Lippi, they had their chance we need to get over them.
ok
that's the issues itself. everyone explained the reason they don't want Capello, I gave mine. but when someone comes and tell because Del piero leave, then I can't hold myself to express my disgust. I don't want Capello because He can't take this Club to the best, he tried and failed. No point bringing him again or Lippi, they had their chance we need to get over them.
ok
you see this Dom? this might be a good reason. But don't give me this shit "If Delpiero leaves, then other Players will leave too".. Players might leave because of his arrival maybe, they don't like him or believe in him, but leaving because Del Piero is leaving too is pure crap. We are not dependent to Delpiero and he doesn't owns the club, I like him and respect him, and I am glad of his performance these two seasons, and I appreciate his presence.
I love Lippi and all, I was glad he was appointed the Azzurri coach, and I was telling everyone that Italia will win the cup they were laughin on me.. But Lippi's time is over with Juve, we can't hire him everytime a coach fails. we need to find another solutions, we need to take the club to another level. I don't want to see Lippi coming and see his failure, he is a Juve legend, I want to see him like that, and not as a 3 or 4 time failure with Juve.
I would agree wtih you about Moggi before the scandal. But he is not clean, since his days at Napoli. we paid big for this Image Vinman, we can't risk it again. he is over 70, people can't change at that age, once a thief always a theif.
I love Lippi and all, I was glad he was appointed the Azzurri coach, and I was telling everyone that Italia will win the cup they were laughin on me.. But Lippi's time is over with Juve, we can't hire him everytime a coach fails. we need to find another solutions, we need to take the club to another level. I don't want to see Lippi coming and see his failure, he is a Juve legend, I want to see him like that, and not as a 3 or 4 time failure with Juve.
I would agree wtih you about Moggi before the scandal. But he is not clean, since his days at Napoli. we paid big for this Image Vinman, we can't risk it again. he is over 70, people can't change at that age, once a thief always a theif.
Snoop, this is the last time I'm going to explain it to you. If you don't get it right this time, you're on my ignore list, because I'm sick of you.
It's not about Del Piero himself or the fact he would or would not be bigger than the club. It's about the fact that if Capello would join Juventus, that would see Del Piero leave, because I don't see him playing another season under Capello. Now if it was just Del Piero to leave, that wouldn't be (as you say) such a big problem. But other players would probably follow his example. Because whether you like it or not, Del Piero's our bandiera at this point. And if a star with such symbolic value would turn his back on Juve, Buffon would do the same within seconds.
It's not about Del Piero himself or the fact he would or would not be bigger than the club. It's about the fact that if Capello would join Juventus, that would see Del Piero leave, because I don't see him playing another season under Capello. Now if it was just Del Piero to leave, that wouldn't be (as you say) such a big problem. But other players would probably follow his example. Because whether you like it or not, Del Piero's our bandiera at this point. And if a star with such symbolic value would turn his back on Juve, Buffon would do the same within seconds.
Agree with Vinnie 100% esp about corruption,
Lippi being the ideal choice under these circumstances and the right man to build the new powerful Juve, based on our very own original style and favorite character.
The most realistic choice would be Prandelli indeed, he was linked with us in the past
and we have still probably what it takes to steal Fiorentina's coach...
About Crapello; i believe for many many reasons he wont return this Juve:
-He is happy there, he wants to win titles, thats why he left Roma for Juve and thats why he picked Real of all teams. he has much more chances there than here, he has built a competitive team for all 3 titles
-He has the players/tools he needs there already and Real Madrid/ founded by an entire state will never run out of cash, he will have what ever players he wishes there, Real can afford anyone, we cant
-His contract is very good from every point of view, financially we couldnt match it, plus dont forget that he has a signed terms, that team cant fire him without a HUGE amount of cash, that kept him there so far and he was lucky enough to win the championship => Real cant fire him now
-Crap doesnt risk a thing, NEVER, we ve seen that, he wouldnt risk he harmed carrier and name choosing the most difficult mission and bringing back Juve to top against all the odds is not his style, he will retire in a few years and he wants to do it as a winner, he said that himself, we cant compete against Milan and Inter, they have already a full competitive team, they have strong management and very powerful background support, while we are as weak as ever, they wont allow us to be competitive the next years and Crap has seen enough to know that.
-Crap loves old players with proven quality ot talented players with proven potential, he wont risk to build a new team out of personal inspirations, we cant afford the type of players he wishes as they r the most expensive and since we lack Europe competition games cant tempt them to join us yet, another reason we r not the kind of team Crap would choose even if he was fired from Real
On the other side, we dont want Crap either, the fans, the players and the stuff hates him:
-Fans feel betrayed because he was the first that promised he will stay with us even in b. The management wouldnt like to upset the fans no more, this is a fatal mistake they cant afford
-Our managers themselves were betrayed of Crap Gigli bad mouthed about him in way that shows they will never cooperate again
-Crap took all his allies from Juve when he left and left only enemies and Zebi...
-A number of players including DP will protest and threaten to leave the club, we cant afford that and we cant afford it for many reasons, besides the financial problems that will appear, our team will suffer more with a total restructure of our core and most important the mentality will be ruined for ever if we choose the traitor against the heroes that really LOVE Juve and stayed to support her even in the hell named serie b.
Choosing to fire a real Juventino like DD for a mercenary/traitor like Crap would be the ultimate blow for Juve's last hope of redeeming herself and ever clear her image.
etc etc etc
Lippi being the ideal choice under these circumstances and the right man to build the new powerful Juve, based on our very own original style and favorite character.
The most realistic choice would be Prandelli indeed, he was linked with us in the past
and we have still probably what it takes to steal Fiorentina's coach...
About Crapello; i believe for many many reasons he wont return this Juve:
-He is happy there, he wants to win titles, thats why he left Roma for Juve and thats why he picked Real of all teams. he has much more chances there than here, he has built a competitive team for all 3 titles
-He has the players/tools he needs there already and Real Madrid/ founded by an entire state will never run out of cash, he will have what ever players he wishes there, Real can afford anyone, we cant
-His contract is very good from every point of view, financially we couldnt match it, plus dont forget that he has a signed terms, that team cant fire him without a HUGE amount of cash, that kept him there so far and he was lucky enough to win the championship => Real cant fire him now
-Crap doesnt risk a thing, NEVER, we ve seen that, he wouldnt risk he harmed carrier and name choosing the most difficult mission and bringing back Juve to top against all the odds is not his style, he will retire in a few years and he wants to do it as a winner, he said that himself, we cant compete against Milan and Inter, they have already a full competitive team, they have strong management and very powerful background support, while we are as weak as ever, they wont allow us to be competitive the next years and Crap has seen enough to know that.
-Crap loves old players with proven quality ot talented players with proven potential, he wont risk to build a new team out of personal inspirations, we cant afford the type of players he wishes as they r the most expensive and since we lack Europe competition games cant tempt them to join us yet, another reason we r not the kind of team Crap would choose even if he was fired from Real
On the other side, we dont want Crap either, the fans, the players and the stuff hates him:
-Fans feel betrayed because he was the first that promised he will stay with us even in b. The management wouldnt like to upset the fans no more, this is a fatal mistake they cant afford
-Our managers themselves were betrayed of Crap Gigli bad mouthed about him in way that shows they will never cooperate again
-Crap took all his allies from Juve when he left and left only enemies and Zebi...
-A number of players including DP will protest and threaten to leave the club, we cant afford that and we cant afford it for many reasons, besides the financial problems that will appear, our team will suffer more with a total restructure of our core and most important the mentality will be ruined for ever if we choose the traitor against the heroes that really LOVE Juve and stayed to support her even in the hell named serie b.
Choosing to fire a real Juventino like DD for a mercenary/traitor like Crap would be the ultimate blow for Juve's last hope of redeeming herself and ever clear her image.
etc etc etc