Who decides our transfers??? (3 Viewers)

Lo-Pan

Disciple of Gonzo
Feb 11, 2009
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#1
why does delneri keep choosing motta over both grygera and sorensen? a player that has produced this season, a textbook showing of Failure. Its persevering with something that fails, then fails, then fails, which makes me have serious problems in believing delneri is lucid, of basic intelligence, let alone a decent manager. why does he do it? did he request Motta, and so is flogging him like a dead horse, still attempting to vindicate his decision to sign him??? or is he doing such a thing as a favour, or on the orders of, Marotta, who was the criminal poltroon responsible for signing him in the first place, even on loan..????? the 'on the orders of' is sinister and surely something to throw away. No manager of any worth is ordered to play players who fail so consistently to perform. Or is this truly the status quo in Italy? Other than when Mourinho is in town? Have the likes of Capello, and Lippi, been given players by their sporting director, and also had their players sold by the same man?

I have tried to get to the bottom of this a few times before. as above, obliquely...and now i am trying again, using the Motta Mystery as a springboard.

Who decides our transfers?

This is not as simple as me failing to grasp an obvious general setup of team manager/coach and transfer manager, as the other league I know extremely well, is the premier league...not just that, but also wherever Gillingham have suffered, over the years. And the set-up, from top to bottom in England is very different indeed to that of Italy.

as the foreign investors have come in, agreed, a small handful of clubs have involved transfer managers, seemingly more in control of transfers than the team manager/coach. Chelsea are a weird example, and increasingly less of an anomoly. A russian oligarch with brutal connections..yes...he seemed able and willing, to decide Mourinho's transfer policy. With only a degree of sentiment. Other than chelsea, liverpool now, blackburn ( who are now a shambles, and rightly so, for selling out to chicken farmers with no connection to the club, no Abramovic style vaults of gold and assassins always at hand, and firing Big Sam, only to replace him with an amateur...)those clubs, to me, have powerful sporting directors who generally control transfers. Perhaps Man City to a degree also...but the standard of the players purchased, could be argued, would make any manager happy, regardless of their lack of decision making power in the process. Also...at a club as wealthy as City, so wealthy, that the owners really dont give a fuck about their income from the club, a manager would know that any player performing brilliantly, would never be sold from beneath his feet...if mourinho went there, as much as i despise the man, he would create a team to destroy all others...hughes is a decent manager, but still learning, and i reckon, never likely to manage a huge team successfully. His main talent as a player was grit, and that is his main talent as a manager, it seems...Mancini has a better team, but has done less than wondrous things with it. Neither are world class managers. But they are managing world class players.

Generally, Managers decide transfers in England. Its a burning topic still for many football people I know, to talk of Ferguson signing Bebe without ever seeing him play. The first time, apparently, he has ever done such a thing. He did get advice from various trusted football people...but still, it was shocking. made all the more shocking by bebe's total failure so far at United. to england, that is a huge surprise for football supporters, as its the Manager who buys and sells the players more often than not...yet...i am trying to believe that delneri was given players like martnez and motta and pepe, and players like giovinco and diego and trezeguet, were taken away from him, by Marotta????

Who signs our players and sells our players? I mean who has the final Say in such things...and if its marotta, then what part of the decision-making process does delneri play, if any at all???
 

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Fake Melo

Ghost Division
Sep 3, 2010
37,077
#2
Isn't it common in Calcio that the SD makes all the decisions and the coach have to adapt the players into his formation? I guess the coach can request certain players but AFAIC Marotta has the final say in such things.
 

Enron

Tickle Me
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Oct 11, 2005
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#3
That's correct in most cases Melo, though sometimes the coach may have a bit more influence depending on the situation.
 
Jun 7, 2003
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#7
i think a coach has enough to do with the squad he has not the time to search in the market. if the coach and the sport director know eachother and are on the same wavelenght then its a very good concept. for example werder bremen have a good sd in klaus allofs and the coach thomas schaaf they both know eachother very well. but that comes only with continuity they are working since 10 years together. dont misunderstand me, i dont wanna del neri to be here for 10 years haha. but i think a sport director should be responsible for all these stuff because coaches come and go and every of like other types of players. look at menez and borrielo they are both not playing alltough they are very good players.

and i like that motta gets his chances because he was a investment and he earns a lot so he should be given the trust to gain his self believe and give us something for the money we put in him. i hate it when players are bought expensive and dont play and cant prove them. i like sorensen but you guys are overrating him to much and besides i think he is a cb and not a rb and should not be the solution for our rb problem. and he makes awfully mistakes, which it seems in this forum that only i see.
 

swag

L'autista
Administrator
Sep 23, 2003
84,750
#8
I honestly don't understand this thread. (Not to mention I don't understand why this couldn't have been posted in existing transfer/team talk threads.)

The subject line is "who decides our transfers?" and the first sentence is about player subs? Huh? :confused: Which is it? And shouldn't this be two separate topics for two separate, existing threads?
 

Bjerknes

"Top Economist"
Mar 16, 2004
115,986
#9
I honestly don't understand this thread. (Not to mention I don't understand why this couldn't have been posted in existing transfer/team talk threads.)

The subject line is "who decides our transfers?" and the first sentence is about player subs? Huh? :confused: Which is it? And shouldn't this be two separate topics for two separate, existing threads?
True. :lol:
 

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