What Are You Doing Right Now? (278 Viewers)

[.zero]

Anyone here familiar with Data Science? My brother is strongly considering spending his life savings to do a Master's in Data Science in the UK (he comes from a finance background).

@swag might agree with me that the term ‘data scientist’ is overused and has different definitions per firm and role.

I’ve hired 11 data scientists and managed over 20+. By my experience there is no distinction from getting a masters or completing a boot camp. The fundamentals revolve around statistics, data structures, and a language (R, python, Julia). FWIW, The best data scientist I’ve had the privilege of working with had his masters in biology who completed a DS boot camp.

No need to pursue an expensive masters program IMO.

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Data engineering (ELT) is also part of DS. However with SAAS ELT tools like snowplow, Rivery, Glue this makes ELT much less of a challenge for the role

 

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[Wings]

@swag might agree with me that the term ‘data scientist’ is overused and has different definitions per firm and role.

I’ve hired 11 data scientists and managed over 20+. By my experience there is no distinction from getting a masters or completing a boot camp. The fundamentals revolve around statistics, data structures, and a language (R, python, Julia). FWIW, The best data scientist I’ve had the privilege of working with had his masters in biology who completed a DS boot camp.

No need to pursue an expensive masters program IMO.

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Data engineering (ELT) is also part of DS. However with SAAS ELT tools like snowplow, Rivery, Glue this makes ELT much less of a challenge for the role

I would add SQL there.

 

[ßöмßäяðîëя]

LAMP Stack on my Python

 

[.zero]

I would add SQL there.

Agreed. But much of academia and boot camps don’t have access to SQL dBs so it’s a real on-the-job skill most have to learn. But most adept hires pick it up rather quickly compared to teaching someone R or SAS which is no walk in the park.

 

[ALC]

Ive been doing data analysis but so far it’s all excel shit. They have tableau but not enough licenses to let me use it.

Ended up learning some vba tho, fucking trash

 

[Wings]

Ive been doing data analysis but so far it’s all excel shit. They have tableau but not enough licenses to let me use it.

Ended up learning some vba tho, fucking trash

Excel! You must one of crazy Excel wizards. Tableau license costs a pretty penny!

 

[.zero]

Ive been doing data analysis but so far it’s all excel shit. They have tableau but not enough licenses to let me use it.

Ended up learning some vba tho, fucking trash

Excel is still one of the most powerful (and preferred) analysis tools out there. Really tough to beat. Tools like Tableau and PBI can't emulate the full power of Excel.

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Sharpen up on python and start fvcking around with Jupyter/conda. There is a web version so you don't have to install garbage conda packages to get started.

 

[IliveForJuve]

@swag might agree with me that the term ‘data scientist’ is overused and has different definitions per firm and role.

I’ve hired 11 data scientists and managed over 20+. By my experience there is no distinction from getting a masters or completing a boot camp. The fundamentals revolve around statistics, data structures, and a language (R, python, Julia). FWIW, The best data scientist I’ve had the privilege of working with had his masters in biology who completed a DS boot camp.

No need to pursue an expensive masters program IMO.

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Data engineering (ELT) is also part of DS. However with SAAS ELT tools like snowplow, Rivery, Glue this makes ELT much less of a challenge for the role

Thanks for the detailed response fam. The main reason he's considering the Master's that he won't require visa sponsorship to access jobs, as many companies are unwilling to provide these sponsorships.

However, I'm under the impression that DS professionals are rather scarce so even if he needed a visa he'd be in a decent position to secure a job provided he learns the right skills (through a bootcamp for instance).

 

[.zero]

Thanks for the detailed response fam. The main reason he's considering the Master's that he won't require visa sponsorship to access jobs, as many companies are unwilling to provide these sponsorships.

However, I'm under the impression that DS professionals are rather scarce so even if he needed a visa he'd be in a decent position to secure a job provided he learns the right skills (through a bootcamp for instance).

Got it. Thanks for sharing the nuances about the situation.

I still believe he would be able to secure a role(plus commensurate visa) without the massive financial and time investment in a MS program which would still require a work visa at the end of it. Unless it's a different operating model in the UK.

 

[ßöмßäяðîëя]

Dru, you got remote jobs to give out? I can send you my resume.

 

[.zero]

Dru, you got remote jobs to give out? I can send you my resume.

I'll ping you when I arrive at my next firm blud

 

[IliveForJuve]

Got it. Thanks for sharing the nuances about the situation.

I still believe he would be able to secure a role(plus commensurate visa) without the massive financial and time investment in a MS program which would still require a work visa at the end of it. Unless it's a different operating model in the UK.

In the UK you have two years after graduation to work visa free. Once you're in, it's much easier to get your employer to sponsor you after the two years expire.

I'll share your posts with him. Might be a good idea to go for the bootcamp first before getting rinsed by a University.

 

[ALC]

Excel! You must one of crazy Excel wizards. Tableau license costs a pretty penny!

lol seriously, you can do some crazy shit with it. Im mostly coming up with formulas to pick out and separate the data in order to show trends.

 

[ßöмßäяðîëя]

Yup, I do the same shit, daily.

 

[X Æ A-12]

In the UK you have two years after graduation to work visa free. Once you're in, it's much easier to get your employer to sponsor you after the two years expire.

I'll share your posts with him. Might be a good idea to go for the bootcamp first before getting rinsed by a University.

Isnt he your twin? Cant he just come to the UK pretending to be you?

 

[ßöмßäяðîëя]

Oh shit, that's smart as fuck.

 

[IliveForJuve]

Oh shit, that's smart as fuck.

Until the fingerprint scanner exposes the sham

 

[ßöмßäяðîëя]

When/where do you get fingerprinted?

My fingerprints aren't on record.......

 

[IliveForJuve]

When/where do you get fingerprinted?

My fingerprints aren't on record.......

It is when you're an immigrant. The UK government takes your fingerprints before they grant you a visa and they scan them every time you enter the country.

 

[swag]

Nope that was BDSM

Correction: BDSMBBWCFNM slave