IliveForJuve

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Jan 17, 2011
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I've only ever been employed as a lawyer (for various firms), but I can tell you the backstabbing is just awful and always present.

I guess what I've learned is to mostly just not associate with laywers in my personal life.
What is it like in your new job?

My experience in the legal field has been similar to yours so trust me.

Never trust lawyers! Especially if they're fat.
 

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Seven

In bocca al lupo, Fabio.
Jun 25, 2003
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What is it like in your new job?

My experience in the legal field has been similar to yours so trust me.

Never trust lawyers! Especially if they're fat.

It has been a good year, but extremely stressful as we are very overworked.

Fortunately yet another law firm (a bigger, more reputable firm less than two minutes from my home) has already inquired for my services and I'll be working for them starting February.

Compared to just under two years ago, my salary has doubled.

Makes so little sense.
 

Seven

In bocca al lupo, Fabio.
Jun 25, 2003
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Make dat money Andries.
It's crazy. I left my old firm to work for a direct competitor (because frankly the money I made was nowhere near good enough) and got absolutely butchered by my former coworkers. I've never in my life been the victim of such a hate campaign against my person and I could tell they were really trying to push me away from being an attorney. And all this time I was thinking this was making people think bad of me, but to tell you the truth I think people from the outside just saw a guy who wouldn't bow down to being bullied.

But it's the part of my job I absolutely detest.

There is no justifiable reason whatsoever that Suits has become a somewhat accurate portrayal of my professional career. Utterly ridiculous.
 

Wings

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Jul 15, 2002
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What was the worst job you guys ever had and why?
I've worked in very many sectors:
Before moving to Sweden:
- Computer Operator (before IT Technician was even a thing. Worked on an x286 computer) Do you kids even know what that is? jk it was an x486
- Businessman (Owned 2 businesses) Money was good but I literally worked 12 hours a day, 7 days a week.

In Sweden:
- Stuffing advertisements into newspapers (quit after 5 hours)
- Newspaper delivery (lost my 2 big toe nails after 3 days running down stairs)
- Cleaner (Hard work especially in winter when the hours are locked into room size. Ended up working more than i got paid for)
- Caretaker (for disabled adults)
- Caretaker (for kids with autism) - Most fulfiling job
- Prison Guard - Crazy fun
- Teacher (Computer Networking)
- IT Technician
- Cleint Desktop Engineer (current job) Awesome job. I really do enjoy it.
 

Bjerknes

"Top Economist"
Mar 16, 2004
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It's crazy. I left my old firm to work for a direct competitor (because frankly the money I made was nowhere near good enough) and got absolutely butchered by my former coworkers. I've never in my life been the victim of such a hate campaign against my person and I could tell they were really trying to push me away from being an attorney. And all this time I was thinking this was making people think bad of me, but to tell you the truth I think people from the outside just saw a guy who wouldn't bow down to being bullied.

But it's the part of my job I absolutely detest.

There is no justifiable reason whatsoever that Suits has become a somewhat accurate portrayal of my professional career. Utterly ridiculous.
I had a similar opportunity and left my employer for a competitor that would pay 30% more, albeit I didn't seem to have as much hate for doing so. At the end of the day the only thing that matters is you and the rest is just noise.
 

IliveForJuve

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Jan 17, 2011
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I've worked in very many sectors:
Before moving to Sweden:
- Computer Operator (before IT Technician was even a thing. Worked on an x286 computer) Do you kids even know what that is? jk it was an x486
- Businessman (Owned 2 businesses) Money was good but I literally worked 12 hours a day, 7 days a week.

In Sweden:
- Stuffing advertisements into newspapers (quit after 5 hours)
- Newspaper delivery (lost my 2 big toe nails after 3 days running down stairs)
- Cleaner (Hard work especially in winter when the hours are locked into room size. Ended up working more than i got paid for)
- Caretaker (for disabled adults)
- Caretaker (for kids with autism) - Most fulfiling job
- Prison Guard - Crazy fun
- Teacher (Computer Networking)
- IT Technician
- Cleint Desktop Engineer (current job) Awesome job. I really do enjoy it.
That's quite a varied CV.

You couldn't apply the Pareto principle to your business? That's a common trap even for successful entrepreneurs.

Interesting. You moved to Sweden with nothing lined up and took up odd jobs until you found something good. Inspiring!

That's the American dream right there.
 

Wings

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Jul 15, 2002
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That's quite a varied CV.

You couldn't apply the Pareto principle to your business? That's a common trap even for successful entrepreneurs.

Interesting. You moved to Sweden with nothing lined up and took up odd jobs until you found something good. Inspiring!

That's the American dream right there.
Yes, that's what I did and it wasn't easy but i learnt a lot and got challenged in ways I could never imagine.
I didn't even know about the Pareto principle. Always been into IT and got into business as I saw an opportunity to earn more.
 

Seven

In bocca al lupo, Fabio.
Jun 25, 2003
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I had a similar opportunity and left my employer for a competitor that would pay 30% more, albeit I didn't seem to have as much hate for doing so. At the end of the day the only thing that matters is you and the rest is just noise.
The thing with lawyers is that there is an incredible amount of envy. With all the backstabbing people start to live to get back at others who wronged them at some point. The amount of sheer toxicity in my profession is truly astonishing.
 

Bjerknes

"Top Economist"
Mar 16, 2004
115,946
The thing with lawyers is that there is an incredible amount of envy. With all the backstabbing people start to live to get back at others who wronged them at some point. The amount of sheer toxicity in my profession is truly astonishing.
That seems a bit odd. The lawyers I've dealt with all seem to be buddies with one another, even if they represent different clients. But I can see why some would envy others.
 

Seven

In bocca al lupo, Fabio.
Jun 25, 2003
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That seems a bit odd. The lawyers I've dealt with all seem to be buddies with one another, even if they represent different clients. But I can see why some would envy others.
Oh, I've got lots of lawyers I'm sort of friends with. At least they're people I can have a nice chat with about anything before and after court cases. I'm not saying that all lawyers are bad, definitely not. But some people are exhausting and try to break others down every chance they get. I don't know about other countries, but I'd say the vast majority in Belgium look other ventures within the first year.

I think mostly it just attracts people who are very shallow. The women in particular I have to deal with everyday.. Again, don't get me wrong, I know tons of absolutely awesome female lawyers. But I also know lots who really only care about wearing fancy clothes and having sex with as many people as they can. Which usually ends up in even more courtroom drama.
 

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The thing with lawyers is that there is an incredible amount of envy. With all the backstabbing people start to live to get back at others who wronged them at some point. The amount of sheer toxicity in my profession is truly astonishing.
My high school girlfriend is now a deputy district attorney..and for the county which i currently live in :scared:
 

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