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Stupid LinkedIn! Got a connection request from a colleague at work whom I had helped with some IT issues. Nothing out of the ordinary except that she is ridiculously hot. Naturally I check out her profile. She is an engineer, speaks Hindu, Japanese, English, French & Swedish. Am like wow. Then I accidentally endorse her for her business skills. Fuck! I hardly know her. Quick thinking, I regret the endorsing & hope that she never gets one of those silly alerts that screams you got endorsed!
Next day at work we bump into each other & she thanks me for endorsing her & inquires why I have not highlighted my skills so she could do likewise. My world shrinks. I promise I'll fix it & quickly get to my desk to endorse her again.
Fuck endorsements.
Next day at work we bump into each other & she thanks me for endorsing her & inquires why I have not highlighted my skills so she could do likewise. My world shrinks. I promise I'll fix it & quickly get to my desk to endorse her again.
Fuck endorsements.
Anyone else getting slightly annoyed with Germany, a country that has gone bankrupt several times, and has never had to pay back the astronomical debt of WWI and WWII, continuously whining about how Greece has to pay?
I know nothing about economics. But if this sort of behaviour from creditors essentially led to WWII in the first place, is it really a good idea to apply it to the situation at hand?
Seriously, fuck Germany.
I know nothing about economics. But if this sort of behaviour from creditors essentially led to WWII in the first place, is it really a good idea to apply it to the situation at hand?
Seriously, fuck Germany.
when "cro" hits the stage - leave! 
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Yep, the situation could've been handled in a heartbeat 5 years ago if some govnerments (mainly Germany) didn't care about solving the problem as much as about punishing Greece & their "lazyness".
Greece is completely insignificant economically compared to the rest of Europe, it's quite the accomplishment that the matter has managed to threaten the whole European project, some incredible pieces of mismanagement in the whole saga.
It was supposed to be a powerful union onceAlways the guys from Germany. Always.
Germany was crippled by debt after WWI and it was a major incentive to start WWII. After WWII the situation was even more dire, yet the European response was better and Germany was relieved from much of the debt.
But it's you who desperately want to destroy Greece now. Friggin' sad.
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In Germany they have a thing for poisoning the mind on a massive scale.
Germany was crippled by debt after WWI and it was a major incentive to start WWII. After WWII the situation was even more dire, yet the European response was better and Germany was relieved from much of the debt.
But it's you who desperately want to destroy Greece now. Friggin' sad.
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In Germany they have a thing for poisoning the mind on a massive scale.
At no point the Germans have excessively lived beyond their means. German shoemakers have not retired at 56 bagging a 2000eur pension. I am definitely not defending the EU leaders because the are definitely being too reserved and indecisive about the matter. Greece should have been dealt with 5 years ago
As for your constant WW2 references, the German media have actually manipulated the population into being overly apologetic. I'm sorry your grandmother was run over by a tank in 1941 but I wasn't driving it and I hope a Belgian tank ran over 5 German grandmothers in 1945 in revenge.
Stop wetting your pants and move on
As for your constant WW2 references, the German media have actually manipulated the population into being overly apologetic. I'm sorry your grandmother was run over by a tank in 1941 but I wasn't driving it and I hope a Belgian tank ran over 5 German grandmothers in 1945 in revenge.
Stop wetting your pants and move onI wouldn't argue on that angle, I mean that's pretty much borderline racist as well tbh.
Basically, I do understand that Greece takes a lot of the blame for the mismanagement prior to the 2008 crisis. Yes, Germany (and others) exploited the common currency to maximise their export at the expense of Greece, Italy & Co., but the extent of corruption, nepotism & simply dilletantism is something to criticize massively.
However, there are two questions to the whole problem that were there from the beginning: Firstly, who's to blame - as I said above, the Greek elites do not look very good there, in that respect the austerity programs can be justified. But the second question is, what can we do to solve this problem? It is at this point that the austerity measures simply lose their rights to exist. They destroy the economy and livelihoods of millions, yet after 5 years of some of the strictest austerity policies the world has seen the Greek debt is worse than before.
I refuse to believe that the people in charge of making the decision to carry out these policies actually were doing so in order to punish Greece (maybe subconsciously to some extent), that was mainly due to them really believeing that the plan would work (despite it having been proven ineffective countless times before). However, broad segments of public opinion are very much influenced by the punitive aspect, which might be justified from the moral angle somehow, but is as far away from being constructive as possible.
Basically, I do understand that Greece takes a lot of the blame for the mismanagement prior to the 2008 crisis. Yes, Germany (and others) exploited the common currency to maximise their export at the expense of Greece, Italy & Co., but the extent of corruption, nepotism & simply dilletantism is something to criticize massively.
However, there are two questions to the whole problem that were there from the beginning: Firstly, who's to blame - as I said above, the Greek elites do not look very good there, in that respect the austerity programs can be justified. But the second question is, what can we do to solve this problem? It is at this point that the austerity measures simply lose their rights to exist. They destroy the economy and livelihoods of millions, yet after 5 years of some of the strictest austerity policies the world has seen the Greek debt is worse than before.
I refuse to believe that the people in charge of making the decision to carry out these policies actually were doing so in order to punish Greece (maybe subconsciously to some extent), that was mainly due to them really believeing that the plan would work (despite it having been proven ineffective countless times before). However, broad segments of public opinion are very much influenced by the punitive aspect, which might be justified from the moral angle somehow, but is as far away from being constructive as possible.
At no point the Germans have excessively lived beyond their means. German shoemakers have not retired at 56 bagging a 2000eur pension. I am definitely not defending the EU leaders because the are definitely being too reserved and indecisive about the matter. Greece should have been dealt with 5 years ago
As for your constant WW2 references, the German media have actually manipulated the population into being overly apologetic. I'm sorry your grandmother was run over by a tank in 1941 but I wasn't driving it and I hope a Belgian tank ran over 5 German grandmothers in 1945 in revenge. Stop wetting your pants and move on
As for your constant WW2 references, the German media have actually manipulated the population into being overly apologetic. I'm sorry your grandmother was run over by a tank in 1941 but I wasn't driving it and I hope a Belgian tank ran over 5 German grandmothers in 1945 in revenge.
Stop wetting your pants and move on
The WW2 reference is about DEBT. You're asking Greece to pay off massive amounts of debt, but you forget:
a) You owed big after WWI. Your creditors kept bugging you. In the end your population got so frustrated it went along with Adolf friggin' Hitler.
b) There was debt relief for Germany after WW2. Why? Because it would have been impossible for them to pay everything back. The country would cease to exist.
WW1 and WW2 are extremely relevant in this case. And it's not as if this all happened hundreds of years ago. The way Germany is acting today is sickening.
