ZoSo

Senior Member
Jul 11, 2011
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You seriously doubt that because you are under a cozy shrowd of ignorance.

Besides, rape isnt free of cost, the guy probably needs a new iron pipe.
whatever you believe.

I guess morals should only exist in western countries then

nice 'generalisation' there too

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Nah, most of those guys are from well off families and most importantly, from a very stabile country. No need to feel bad for them.
there's only one ignorant person here and that's you
 

baggio

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Jun 3, 2003
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Point is that you're directing your anger at a complete pawn. You might as well insult a wall.

And curiously enough, the first time I was in India I remember being in a mob in Cannaught Circle in Delhi, which set off all my traveling experience alarms to be on the lookout for pickpockets and scam artists. People kept coming up to me and talking and asking questions - probably entertained by the 198cm tall white freak in the middle of the mob.

And while India most certainly has its share of scam artists and thieves, I soon realized I was among none of them. In fact, India ultimately felt a lot more safe to me than much of Europe.

One example: one persistent guy in Connaught Circle asked where I was going. Turns out he was trying to help me out. He led me out of the crowd and down some sidestreets to get where I wanted to go.

Given the guy's shoddy looks and the time he spent helping me out to get to the right place, I figured he was at least playing the tour-guide-tip scam. But satisfied that this guy did help me out for a while, I offered him some rupees. He held up his hand, looked at me like, "Hey, wait on here", and refused. He then went off on his way.
Well said Swagster. But I think this is the stereotype of not just nations/cultures, but poverty itself. For eg., I don't think the guys who swindle/pickpocket in Italy are any better off than the guys who do it in the subcontinent. It's a means to an end, and even though it can't ever be justified, the other common thread I see in such places, is an equally inept political system with no concept of the common man.
 

ALC

Ohaulick
Oct 28, 2010
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With his signature "Dr. J" move?

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Tends to be mostly older people here, but people do fall for these things, and they potentially end up costing a lot of money.
Yeah, they're the same ones who fall for the computer maintenance thing too since they tend to be more technologically impaired I guess.

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It's his own choice, right?
Scamming is. He/she could work in a sweatshop instead.
 

Nzoric

Grazie Mirko
Jan 16, 2011
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Scamming is. He/she could work in a sweatshop instead.
I love how Americans in particular are quick to take this stance in regards to the people on the bottom who are stealing. And yet the entire fucking country sat on their fat asses while some wealthy crooks spiralled our entire system into a hole in the ground.
 

ZoSo

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Jul 11, 2011
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Well said Swagster. But I think this is the stereotype of not just nations/cultures, but poverty itself. For eg., I don't think the guys who swindle/pickpocket in Italy are any better off than the guys who do it in the subcontinent. It's a means to an end, and even though it can't ever be justified, the other common thread I see in such places, is an equally inept political system with no concept of the common man.
I think Nzoric is the only one suggesting that tbh.

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I love how Americans in particular are quick to take this stance in regards to the people on the bottom who are stealing. And yet the entire fucking country sat on their fat asses while some wealthy crooks spiralled our entire system into a hole in the ground.
:lol: like the average american people don't get shit on by their government and the uber rich
 

ZoSo

Senior Member
Jul 11, 2011
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what's dat butthurt mane? usually geniune intellectually challenged fellows like [rus] are the first ones to start throwing the toys out of the pram and insulting 'IQ' points.
 

ALC

Ohaulick
Oct 28, 2010
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I love how Americans in particular are quick to take this stance in regards to the people on the bottom who are stealing. And yet the entire fucking country sat on their fat asses while some wealthy crooks spiralled our entire system into a hole in the ground.
Haven't you complained about America policing the world before? :lol:
 

ZoSo

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Jul 11, 2011
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alright, here's a scenario nzoric.

tomorrow I get the number of those scammers and give them your number, do you allow them to scam hundreds off you?

because you seem to be in support of it
 

swag

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Sep 23, 2003
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I don't see why it's wrong to get mad at some trying to scam. It's like saying oh this theif is poor so I'll let him steal my wallet or 'thank you but no thanks'.

I know... 'would you do the same in their position.. steal or starve?'. I can't answer because I don't know but I seriously doubt that would be their only option to work, and they know full well what they are doing.
Here's the thing: the guy who is really the scam artist in the scenario you describe is probably laughing his ass off because he feels he made victims out of both of you: the guy getting interrupted with a scam, and the pathetic girl getting yelled at for it because he can make her jump on command for a few rupees.

Do you even shoot hoops, bro?
Does that involve a rifle?

This :p

Actually, worse: I've never had an easy time palming a basketball when coming in to crash the nets.

Greg dunks on thai trannies on the regular
:agree: And by "dunks", he means in tanks of foul Thai sewer water. It's called bobbing for Adam's apples.

Yo Greggo, I just won tix to see the great Pat Metheney at the Warfield
Sweet! I haven't followed his music in 20 years, but he's pretty amazing.
 

baggio

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Jun 3, 2003
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alright, here's a scenario nzoric.

tomorrow I get the number of those scammers and give them your number, do you allow them to scam hundreds off you?

because you seem to be in support of it
I would also go as far as saying that scammers and petty thieves, have perhaps a different socio-economic background to each other. A scammer may swindle for big bucks but for a petty thief/pickpocket, it's about seeing through his/her existence on a day to day basis. Again, this too is not a cultural thing.
 

ZoSo

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Jul 11, 2011
41,656
Here's the thing: the guy who is really the scam artist in the scenario you describe is probably laughing his ass off because he feels he made victims out of both of you: the guy getting interrupted with a scam, and the pathetic girl getting yelled at for it because he can make her jump on command for a few rupees.
I still don't see the person doing the calling as a victim. They may not have true malicious intent but still I do not see a victim.

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I would also go as far as saying that scammers and petty thieves, have perhaps a different socio-economic background to each other. A scammer may swindle for big bucks but for a petty thief/pickpocket, it's about seeing through his/her existence on a day to day basis. Again, this too is not a cultural thing.
Maybe Nzoric feels bad for 'Lowlife' too.
 

baggio

Senior Member
Jun 3, 2003
19,250
Here's the thing: the guy who is really the scam artist in the scenario you describe is probably laughing his ass off because he feels he made victims out of both of you: the guy getting interrupted with a scam, and the pathetic girl getting yelled at for it because he can make her jump on command for a few rupees.
Ever been to Mumbai? If yes, what were your experiences like?

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Maybe Nzoric feels bad for 'Lowlife' too.
Really hard to categorize here. I see where you're coming from, when you can't empathize with any wrong doing in any form whatsoever, but really, at the bottom of it, but on a humane level, every individual has seen and developed a unique perspective of life, growing up. Whether its a scammer or a petty thief.

Some are left permanently scarred and absolutely have no idea of the consequences or bearing it can have on their 'victim'. There's just so much deep rooted hate, anger, anxiety etc. It's really very hard to say how they tick. Like, for example, what do you think the mental make up of a murderer or rapist is?? It's a mind that's so fucked up, that there isn't much scope for rational understanding when viewed by a more healthy mind.
 

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