Maddy

Oracle of Copenhagen
Jul 10, 2009
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I'm of the opinion that being good in something and successful in your career is one of the main things that makes people happy.
It's individual. But security, family and friends, a job with good co-workers and so on is much more important to a lot of people than a 'good' career
 

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Oct 11, 2005
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This + gut feeling. In the end it's all about where you are happy. Screw money.
Indeed. If things change you can always move later.

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I'm of the opinion that being good in something and successful in your career is one of the main things that makes people happy.
Depends on how you define success. Some people would rather work for a smaller company doing big things, while other would rather work for a large company doing a lot of small things.
 
Aug 1, 2003
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thanks for all the input. initially I thought Shell would be good ("who says no to Shell??") after all the intense assessment I had to go through, and moving somewhere would be a good way to challenge myself and start anew... but now am thinking I am so settled in Kuala Lumpur that it would be nice to stay. And I have great bosses and team it would suck to try settling in elsewhere again, bearing in mind I've only been back in KL for 10 months after 4 years in Melbourne.

money actually plays an important role. I suppose it would be different in western countries, where you have minimum wage and things are perhaps more balanced (cost of living vs salary) this is my assumption... you probably wont be RICH but you won't struggle. but for us asians, we desperately need as much money as we can get!

I just don't want to regret whatever decision I'm going to make..
 

Lapa

FLY, EAGLES FLY
Sep 29, 2008
20,055
If you are a travelling person, then Shell could be the way to go.

I'm not good at settling in...so for me moving is a big no no. It could work for you though.
 

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Cost of living is way higher than minimum wage, at least in the US. So if you make only minimum wage in the US, you're considered to be living in poverty.

We understand your viewpoint. :D
 

Osman

Koul Khara!
Aug 30, 2002
61,730
Yeah we understand your viewpoint indeed, financial aspect especially. Though based on your description, difference is 1300 RM, while KL choice that pays less seems to give offer pretty much all living expenses The other bigger company doesnt. Weird, usually is the reverse.
 
Aug 1, 2003
17,696
Cost of living is way higher than minimum wage, at least in the US. So if you make only minimum wage in the US, you're considered to be living in poverty.

We understand your viewpoint. :D

I suppose career progression is important to me since I just started out (6months). it's very hard to determine career prospects with either the current company or shell - who can really tell what the future will be like so how do you evaluate your options to begin with? that's what I'm mostly confused about.
 

Fred

Senior Member
Oct 2, 2003
41,112
Where I live makes me happy. Working/career comes second.
I see where you're coming from, and i myself would not move to another place(I'm happy where i am) but if i had a substantially better offer elsewhere, and if i thought it would further my career, i personally would have no qualms moving.
 

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I suppose career progression is important to me since I just started out (6months). it's very hard to determine career prospects with either the current company or shell - who can really tell what the future will be like so how do you evaluate your options to begin with? that's what I'm mostly confused about.
Usually, people want to do things that make them stand out in the job market, I figure this would even more important in Asia. Simply working at a company doesn't matter as much as what you do when you are there. So you want to analyze the projects you would do as much as, if not more than you would the company. Also, I don't know if this is true in the Asian markets, but leaving a position before a year can sometimes paint you as flighty or disloyal. Then again it could show that you're aggressive and looking to achieve at a rapid level depending on cultural outlooks.

If you're unsure about moving on, my advice would be to stay where you are. It's easy to move forward but difficult to go back once you've burned bridges.
 

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