What Are You Doing Right Now? (325 Viewers)

[Seven]

Look at Serie A, some fans are extremely right wing conservatives, and other extreme oppisite. Lazio, Liverno, Roma, and plenty others display political signs/gestures in during matches. They mix those together, which is completely wrong, I am there to watch a match and support my team and that's what matter the most

Look, dude, American Football is at its biggest in Texas. It's not the same in New York. That's just the way it is. Football is bigger in Europe than it is in Canada. It changes the entire perspective of supporting your team.

 

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[Nicholas]

Seven

 

[ßöмßäяðîëя]

I understand what he means though. And sometimes, just because football is life, the line is difficult to draw. But to be fair 95% of Italian football fans aren't about that.

Just as 95% of Croatians aren't like Barkuss.

I understand that. But some people watch Green Street and think that's how it always is. That shit hasn't been big since the 70's.

 

[Red]

Just as 95% of Croatians aren't like Barkuss.

I understand that. But some people watch Green Street and think that's how it always is. That shit hasn't been big since the 70's.

The Green Street stuff is more about the casual movement that was very big in the '80s.

 

[Gabriel]

A Roma fan is a Roma fan 100% of the time. Like it or not, it's life in Italy. It's just not the same in Canada. If Roma lose the derby half the city is in ruins. I honestly don't think the same happens when FC Toronto lose.

It's the same in south america, you should see the cities whenever their team loses or draws a game.

 

[Delle Alpi]

Look, dude, American Football is at its biggest in Texas. It's not the same in New York. That's just the way it is. Football is bigger in Europe than it is in Canada. It changes the entire perspective of supporting your team.

I agree there, football in Europe is big and all that, but there is nothing special about when you take it to the extreme and cause harm to others. I love Juventus and so passionate about the team, but if I meet an inter fan I might show him the middle finger (exactly what I did last Saturday at a party) and talk shit, but I won't beat the hell out of him and cause harm just because he is an inter fan. On any day fans in Europe are more intense and ultra passionate, but you got to give football fans here in Toronto some respect, those guy have been doing an amazing job for a team that was established few years ago. The amount of support is sensational, but will they reach the extremism of the one in Europe? I don't think so. The people who go to these matches are usually middle and upper class, all have good income and very stable financially, so there is no way in hell that they will start burning cars, fighting after games and causing riots

 

[ßöмßäяðîëя]

The Green Street stuff is more about the casual movement that was very big in the '80s.

Meh, most of my knowledge surrounds the Headhunters.

 

[Nicholas]

I agree there, football in Europe is big and all that, but there is nothing special about when you take it to the extreme and cause harm to others. I love Juventus and so passionate about the team, but if I meet an inter fan I might show him the middle finger (exactly what I did last Saturday at a party) and talk shit, but I won't beat the hell out of him and cause harm just because he is an inter fan. On any day fans in Europe are more intense and ultra passionate, but you got to give football fans here in Toronto some respect, those guy have been doing an amazing job for a team that was established few years ago. The amount of support is sensational, but will they reach the extremism of the one in Europe? I don't think so. The people who go to these matches are usually middle and upper class, all have good income and very stable financially, so there is no way in hell that they will start burning cars, fighting after games and causing riots

You've no idea have you. Do some research and you'll find out some of the Hooligan top boys in the past have been in very high powered jobs, Lawyers,Solicitors,Doctors to name a few. It's not just your working class you know.

 

[Delle Alpi]

You've no idea have you. Do some research and you'll find out some of the Hooligan top boys have been in very high powered jobs, Lawyers,Solicitors,Doctors. It's not just your working class you know.

I am talking from the North American prespective, so I am not sure how the middle and upper class would behave in Europe. Here, most of the riots is usually caused by the working class. It's really interesting to hear that those guys are part of Holigans in Europe. I didn't know that

 

[Enron]

No, you don't. You know nothing about Ultras. You know nothing about fans in Calcio. Go see a game in Serie A. Then you can talk about it.

Fucking MLS fan.

Yeah, Andy's mistaken here. Drums, flares, and chanting aren't really "ultra-like".

However, there's nothing wrong with being an MLS fan.

 

[ßöмßäяðîëя]

I agree there, football in Europe is big and all that, but there is nothing special about when you take it to the extreme and cause harm to others. I love Juventus and so passionate about the team, but if I meet an inter fan I might show him the middle finger (exactly what I did last Saturday at a party) and talk shit, but I won't beat the hell out of him and cause harm just because he is an inter fan. On any day fans in Europe are more intense and ultra passionate, but you got to give football fans here in Toronto some respect, those guy have been doing an amazing job for a team that was established few years ago. The amount of support is sensational, but will they reach the extremism of the one in Europe? I don't think so. The people who go to these matches are usually middle and upper class, all have good income and very stable financially, so there is no way in hell that they will start burning cars, fighting after games and causing riots

WE AREN'T TALKING ABOUT THAT!

 

[Nicholas]

I am talking from the North American prespective, so I am not sure how the middle and upper class would behave in Europe. Here, most of the riots is usually caused by the working class. It's really interesting to hear that those guys are part of Holigans in Europe. I didn't know that

My apologies then. Come Saturday or Sunday in Europe everyone is at one. There is no divide between Middle,Upper and Working classes. Once you enter those terraces everyone is a fan.

It's something you would've have to experience in the past to get the full extent but it's still very apparent in Europe still to this days. Ask anyone who attends matches regularly home or away and they will tell you the same. Red is a good member to ask.

 

[Byrone]

What's your problem, dickless?

Gotta make up for not working 100% during the WC.

WAKE THE FUCK UP, YOU MONGOLIAN!

 

[Nicholas]

Yeah, Andy's mistaken here. Drums, flares, and chanting aren't really "ultra-like".

However, there's nothing wrong with being an MLS fan.

Who said there was?

 

[Seven]

Yeah, Andy's mistaken here. Drums, flares, and chanting aren't really "ultra-like".

However, there's nothing wrong with being an MLS fan.

Someone needs to start. Otherwise you will never have a commmunity and that's what it's about. Unfortunately there is just no room for a big football community in the US. It can never be like football in Europe. It can be good, but it cannot be the same. And Andy needs to realise that DC United - whoever is not the same as Juventus - Milan. In a very similar way Juventus-Milan is nothing like Man United - Man City by the way. Two very different things, two very different ways of supporting.

Of course the last two games are huge whereas the first doesn't matter at all.

 

[ßöмßäяðîëя]

Sleven

 

[Delle Alpi]

My apologies then. Come Saturday or Sunday in Europe everyone is at one. There is no divide between Middle,Upper and Working classes. Once you enter those terraces everyone is a fan.

It's something you would've have to experience in the past to get the full extent but it's still very apparent in Europe still to this days. Ask anyone who attends matches regularly home or away and they will tell you the same. Red is a good member to ask.

No worries man, I appreaciate the info, I would love one day to watch a football match in Europe and experience it myself

 

[Red]

Red is a good member to ask.

I am an expert on mindless, violent, lower class, racist thugs, on the basis that I hang around with heaps of folk who supposedly are mindless, violent, lower class, racist thugs.

 

[Enron]

Look, dude, American Football is at its biggest in Texas. It's not the same in New York. That's just the way it is. Football is bigger in Europe than it is in Canada. It changes the entire perspective of supporting your team.

Really bad analogy Andries. By assuming that American football is "biggest" in Texas you've broken your own rule.

 

[Seven]

Really bad analogy Andries. By assuming that American football is "biggest" in Texas you've broken your own rule.

I don't know enough to know where it's biggest. I enjoy watching games and I love the sheer athleticism of the sport, but as I'm Belgian, it's difficult for me to understand the finer culture behind it all.