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JCK said:
With all the activities around me, I am missing the jogs and bicycle tours in this beautiful spring :(

I wish my puppy was a bit older so I can go biking with him running next to me, but I guess I have to wait a year for that.

But the grilling is going at full power, especially that I have no kitchen at the moment.
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grilled corn on the cob mmmmmmmm

then rubbed with red chili powder and lime mmmmmmm

oh dear god i miss india
 

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Seven

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Jun 25, 2003
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swag said:
Its decentralized nature is either one of its elegant strikes of genius or the seeds of its great downfall, if not both.

I look at religions organically, as I do urban legends. They need conditions in the society in which they are raised to propagate. They struggle in a survival-of-the-fittest realm. Gnosticsm loses out to Christianity not unlike Neanderthals to homo sapiens.

But time and context changes. There are things about Islam that have made it prosper. But there are other reasons to believe it could have seeds of its own demise buried in its DNA based on how it's coming to fit, or not, in modern society.

But oppressive regimes seem to give rise to extremist movements, much to the peril of said regimes. Take the birth of the Muslim Brotherhood of Egypt.

I think you're mixing the two. Extremism and the oppressive regimes may have similar tactics in some ways, but they are diametrically opposed in others. And there's no way you could attribute the rise of the Muslim Brotherhood to a lack of structure in Egypt's governmental crackdowns...

Islamic extremism has become the new communism in a lot of ways.
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I see where you're coming from, but that wasn't really the point I was trying to make. Both extremist movements and oppressive regimes can exist on the basis of Islam, because Islam is what people say Islam is. You can't have extremist movements or oppressive regimes in the name of Catholicism if the Pope says you can't. So that's why I say they're both the direct result of a lack of hierarchy within the religion.

Islam (or this unorganised version of Islam) will die soon enough (because it cannot survive in a western state), but it will be an ugly battle. Muslims on this forum can say whatever they want, but when it comes down to it I see girls wearing burqahs in Antwerp these days and the same girls weren't doing that shit five years ago. I also see Belgian bartenders getting bullied for selling alcohol and I also see Jews punched in the face on the street. At the same time I see muslims becoming much more vocal about Allah in public. This didn't happen five years ago. So apparently THEIR interpretation of Islam changed. Nothing prevents Fred and every other muslim from doing the same.
 
swag

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Islam can't survive in a Western state? Most religions, IMO, struggle to survive in a Western state. Where religious faith is often supplanted by material consumerism.

To paraphrase John Lennon a little bit, in Western society Coca-Cola is bigger than Allah.
 
Seven

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Jun 25, 2003
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swag said:
Islam can't survive in a Western state? Most religions, IMO, struggle to survive in a Western state. Where religious faith is often supplanted by material consumerism.

To paraphrase John Lennon a little bit, in Western society Coca-Cola is bigger than Allah.
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Bingo. Christianity is as good as dead.
 
Bjerknes

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RazielisLT said:
Have a nice night out then ;)
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It was just one drink I swear!

Seven said:
Bingo. Christianity is as good as dead.
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Not exactly. Once again, you'll have to come here and check it out. Many people are quoted as "good Christians", while there certainly are faux Christians out there and quite a lot.

But I would certainly not say it's dead. I'd actually gamble that during the past year, considering the economy, churches have expanded.
 
Seven

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LetsBrushYourTeeth said:
Not exactly. Once again, you'll have to come here and check it out. Many people are quoted as "good Christians", while there certainly are faux Christians out there and quite a lot.

But I would certainly not say it's dead. I'd actually gamble that during the past year, considering the economy, churches have expanded.
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No offense but christianity is big in the most retarded parts of America. Now I know God is important in American politics and all, but I really think that the vast majority of educated Americans is sick of all that bullshit.

Christianity is certainly dead in the Benelux.
 
Bjerknes

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Seven said:
No offense but christianity is big in the most retarded parts of America. Now I know God is important in American politics and all, but I really think that the vast majority of educated Americans is sick of all that bullshit.

Christianity is certainly dead in the Benelux.
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Not all are. Sure, more successful people are turning away, but many "intelligent" people are still what one would call "believers", people more intelligent and successful than me, that's for sure.

That's their call. Just because they are successful doesn't mean I'm going to believe in what they think or preach. That would be sheepish. Not my sort of thing.
 
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