fabianaceeee

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The poverty is a very polarizing thing, I found. There are beggars who are far worse in places like Tijuana or even Hartford, CT in the good old USA. Some people just freak at it and get overwhelmed. While it's never acceptable, others seem to see it differently.

I've often likened people's responses to the poverty in India to holding up a mirror to yourself. I wasn't sure how I'd react, spending most of my travel time in more "affluent" parts of the world in general. But I really got into the Indians and their diversity -- economic, social, religious, racial, etc.

The thing was for me, given how spiritually centered many Indians are, I could see many of them looking at Westerners with pity about how spiritually poor they (we) are -- the way that many Westerners might pity them for economic reasons. There is a matter of perspective, and it's easy for the economically affluent to judge others on single, narrow-minded terms.
Yes, exactly, I would love to have that experience and see how the Indians are, live, etc. because their culture is so different to mine... That perspective change is something we all in the West need (including me)!! I just don't know if I'm mature enough to face it yet.
 

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The poverty is a very polarizing thing, I found. There are beggars who are far worse in places like Tijuana or even Hartford, CT in the good old USA. Some people just freak at it and get overwhelmed. While it's never acceptable, others seem to see it differently.

I've often likened people's responses to the poverty in India to holding up a mirror to yourself. I wasn't sure how I'd react, spending most of my travel time in more "affluent" parts of the world in general. But I really got into the Indians and their diversity -- economic, social, religious, racial, etc.

The thing was for me, given how spiritually centered many Indians are, I could see many of them looking at Westerners with pity about how spiritually poor they (we) are -- the way that many Westerners might pity them for economic reasons. There is a matter of perspective, and it's easy for the economically affluent to judge others on single, narrow-minded terms.
:agree: I think it's because of the tourist places people visit, and partly cos of the media too, that people think poverty is widespread here. Beggars flock to tourist places, and the culture/heritage and history of those places are retained to a big extent, which further make these places seem backward.
 

icemaη

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Sheik, couple of years back there was a supplementary newspaper that came along with Times of India on new years day. It was about India's unknown rich men. One of them was a beggar, he had a plot in the outskirts of Mumbai, a flat in Bandra and lakhs of rupees in his numerous bank accounts. Another story about a beggar in Kerala came out a few months back. The fellow was old and died a natural death while sleeping on the footpath. Inside his pillow was cash, lots of it. They then tried to find his next of kin, his son is a software engineer.
In India, at least in the cities, begging is an organised business, and a successful one at that.
 
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icεmαή;2225254 said:
Sheik, couple of years back there was a supplementary newspaper that came along with Times of India on new years day. It was about India's unknown rich men. One of them was a beggar, he had a plot in the outskirts of Mumbai, a flat in Bandra and lakhs of rupees in his numerous bank accounts. Another story about a beggar in Kerala came out a few months back. The fellow was old and died a natural death while sleeping on the footpath. Inside his pillow was cash, lots of it. They then tried to find his next of kin, his son is a software engineer.
In India, at least in the cities, begging is an organised business, and a successful one at that.
I'm aware that begging is a organized business here. It's surprising to a certain extent actually.

@dru: Just installed an app called Snaptu on my cellphone for Twitter and Facebook update needs, and I love the app already.
 

Quetzalcoatl

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Aug 22, 2007
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Exactly, it's not a war, it is football. I know many people hate nationalism because it breeds hate and eventually wars, but I'm only nationalistic when my country is playing football. You don't see me rooting on the decision makers when they kill a million Iraqis, or when they concoct wars for oil. These are matters of life and death for our troops, for people in other countries, so blind nationalism here is what is wrong.

What the hell is the World Cup supposed to mean when nobody cheers for their own country, even when they participate? International soccer is not about people cheering for whatever country they want and having players be tossed around like they are in club football. The World Cup is BASED ON nationality, not any BS like what little hairdo your favorite player has, so you cheer for his nation. It's fucking meaningless, so why even root for a country? Just stick with club football.

And we have always had a team, chief. My former coach Ray Vigliotti played for our Olympic team in the 80's, but since we didn't participate in Moscow because of the Afghanistan boycott, he didn't get to play. Know your history son and don't make up false crap.
I didn't read everything else cause I'm real tired but good point. But i ask the same question? What the hell is the World cup supposed to mean when anybody can just get citizenship to any country and say they're Italien, Americen, Trinidiadien or Easter Islandien when they're actually Eskimo?
 

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