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Diez
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In Germany we have public book shelves in the most cultured (engineer-doctor-free) neighborhoods. You can pick up a book and return it later or put in some old book for other people to read
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lmao, try living in a first world country
You can also download for free most books older than 60 years, it's really silly to compare the two imo
 

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Found out that a co-worker of my gf is naming their baby Milan :inter:
At least it isn’t Intaher.

weather today was post apocalypse with a strong chance of ash
It’s like Burning Man without the naked chicks.

I'm a little drunk and I wanna say I love you fuckers
I love you too... just like all the narwhals in your town.

Ok, this sucks. Publishers are insane. I need like 1000-1500e to publish my book. :sigh: Today I talked with some editor and it turns out prices are sky high everywhere. Too hard for my wallet.
This reads like a scam to me.

yes they are but the feel and smell of book pages is irreplacable
I say the same thing about hoochie.

I can relate. No writer in Bolivia makes a living writing books.
Because nearly all Bolivians are illiterate? :rndh:

day three of staying inside because the air is toxic. Bored out of my mind
It’s like Mad Max with a lot more gasoline.

I think the toxicity of Facebook, Google, and Uber has finally come home to roost.
 

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At least it isn’t Intaher.



It’s like Burning Man without the naked chicks.



I love you too... just like all the narwhals in your town.



This reads like a scam to me.



I say the same thing about hoochie.



Because nearly all Bolivians are illiterate? :rndh:



It’s like Mad Max with a lot more gasoline.

I think the toxicity of Facebook, Google, and Uber has finally come home to roost.
Seriously was crazy. We have wildfires every year but i don't remember the sky being off color for days before.
 

Post Ironic

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Talked with some people who were/are in a similar position. They did publish some stuff in magazines and they either don't pay anything or it doesn't help much. I actually had a chat with the main editor of one major publishing houses and he said he's going through the same shit when he wants to publish, despite having published books already. For example, one of our strongest houses has a budget to publish 9 books per year (of unknown authors). That's really horrible. Among them there are people who won huge prizes, so they usually get picked instantly (just like last year).

Also, it's this modern era. They only seek the profit, unlike before when you could publish quality stuff. It's just profit and that's disgusting. It's not in my interest just to publish something for the sake of it. I could've done that had I written some shit like a) how to lose 20kg in a month b) 10 ways of how to get happy c) write shit like Coleho does, etc.

Capitalism? Yay? :shifty:

Anyway, I'll just keep going. I sent my book for proofreading and I'll pay for that. That's at least one expense I can cover haha.
Yeah. The industry sounds terrible in your country. Very different from the state of the industry here in Canada/North America in general. In Canada alone, here's a list of 60ish literary journals/magazines/reviews that accept unsolicited submissions of short fiction, etc., and the majority pay for them, even if only a pittance with some. https://www.cbc.ca/books/canadawrit...es-and-journals-open-to-submissions-1.4242191

Same deal in the US, on a much larger scale. Most are also pretty damn selective about what they publish, as they receive nigh countless submissions for every issue, or so a friend who worked for The Malahat Review years ago told me. But good stuff is being published, it's only that it's hard to find.

I'd assume the same would be true for most "rich" western countries that place a good deal of emphasis on the arts. The UK, France, Germany, etc. A lot of options to submit work and start making a name for yourself if it is up to snuff (subjective of course, and annoyingly subject to the whims and passing trends of the era which can include priority given to certain groups with less regard to quality). Unfortunately, the publishing industry in your country sounds massively underfunded, and/or entirely profit-driven/a scam, with next to no opportunities for new writers.
 

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@Dostoevsky A friend of mine recently released his book exclusively on Amazon and told me that they have a model that removes any need for a publisher. Essentially, every time an order is placed for your book they print is fresh so there is no excess inventory held by anyone. Thus zero to no costs to bare.
 

Dostoevsky

Tzu
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Yeah. The industry sounds terrible in your country. Very different from the state of the industry here in Canada/North America in general. In Canada alone, here's a list of 60ish literary journals/magazines/reviews that accept unsolicited submissions of short fiction, etc., and the majority pay for them, even if only a pittance with some. https://www.cbc.ca/books/canadawrit...es-and-journals-open-to-submissions-1.4242191

Same deal in the US, on a much larger scale. Most are also pretty damn selective about what they publish, as they receive nigh countless submissions for every issue, or so a friend who worked for The Malahat Review years ago told me. But good stuff is being published, it's only that it's hard to find.

I'd assume the same would be true for most "rich" western countries that place a good deal of emphasis on the arts. The UK, France, Germany, etc. A lot of options to submit work and start making a name for yourself if it is up to snuff (subjective of course, and annoyingly subject to the whims and passing trends of the era which can include priority given to certain groups with less regard to quality). Unfortunately, the publishing industry in your country sounds massively underfunded, and/or entirely profit-driven/a scam, with next to no opportunities for new writers.
That honestly sounds really amazing. I wish we had that here. :cry:

Btw, yeah, publishers here are insane. Even when they cover the expenses, you get 7-10% of book sales which is like 4e per book sold. In case you finance the whole thing they steal 50% from you. So if you sell everything you're on a 0 or just a small profit.
 

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@Dostoevsky A friend of mine recently released his book exclusively on Amazon and told me that they have a model that removes any need for a publisher. Essentially, every time an order is placed for your book they print is fresh so there is no excess inventory held by anyone. Thus zero to no costs to bare.
Dai told me about that like half a year ago. I was amazed to hear that and it was awesome. I was gonna do it and I had my hopes :D then... I saw on their site how they don't deal with my country.
 

Post Ironic

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That honestly sounds really amazing. I wish we had that here. :cry:

Btw, yeah, publishers here are insane. Even when they cover the expenses, you get 7-10% of book sales which is like 4e per book sold. In case you finance the whole thing they steal 50% from you. So if you sell everything you're on a 0 or just a small profit.
Yeah. That's bullshit. Even more so with having to give up copyright to a publishing house that is doing next to nothing for you. They're not covering expenses, they're not marketing your book, they're not sending it to critics to review so it can get some publicity... they basically do nothing, but take the copyright and half the profit. How absurd.
 

Dostoevsky

Tzu
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Yeah. That's bullshit. Even more so with having to give up copyright to a publishing house that is doing next to nothing for you. They're not covering expenses, they're not marketing your book, they're not sending it to critics to review so it can get some publicity... they basically do nothing, but take the copyright and half the profit. How absurd.
I know :sigh: but I still wanna do it. I even to want to finance it. I also want to start writing another one. I'll never give up despite this shit system.
 

Post Ironic

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You are on Mars dude. Elon Musk got his wish.

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I know :sigh: but I still wanna do it. I even to want to finance it. I also want to start writing another one. I'll never give up despite this shit system.
You could try writing your next novel in English. That opens up an entire new world for publishing... I know it's a lame duck solution, but it could help.

French, German, Spanish would work too, to expand your publishing options.
 

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