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[Ocelot]

your life is like a soap opera

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@Ocelot

Been following tomorrow's Greek Election?

Syriza might win. Interesting what it'll mean to Greece's attitude towards Merkel's demands.

And really positive it's the Left-Wing populism that's winning and not the Fascist pigs of Golden Dawn.

Of course, visited the country a few times the past three years, and a friend/acquaintance of mine is probably gonna get elected into parliamant today for Syriza

Syriza is in many ways what modern social democratic parties should be. I mean they are still a very new party, with all advantages and drawbacks that has. On the one hand, there's a drive and commitement that's only seldom seen in other more established parties, but I also have to admit that their organiation is probably still a little bit more fragile than the one of others. In any way, I really hope they can get absolute majority today (which is very well possible with the majority-favouring voting system in Greece). What happens afterwards, especially the actual reactions of the EU will be interesting, but it can't really be any worse than what's been happening the past few years. The pauperisation that has taken place is incredible really, and affects basically every part of the population, I know someone who's a university professor, but should new eviction laws pass will soon be homeless

 

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[Dostoevsky]

Dang, you done gone wild m8

I've never done coke, and I think I never will, I'm scared 4life about it and heroin

Man, you can't even compare those two. Coke is drug for kings. Heroin is death.

 

[Maddy]

Of course, visited the country a few times the past three years, and a friend/acquaintance of mine is probably gonna get elected into parliamant today for Syriza

Kool stuff

Syriza is in many ways what modern social democratic parties should be. I mean they are still a very new party, with all advantages and drawbacks that has. On the one hand, there's a drive and commitement that's only seldom seen in other more established parties, but I also have to admit that their organiation is probably still a little bit more fragile than the one of others. In any way, I really hope they can get absolute majority today (which is very well possible with the majority-favouring voting system in Greece). What happens afterwards, especially the actual reactions of the EU will be interesting, but it can't really be any worse than what's been happening the past few years. The pauperisation that has taken place is incredible really, and affects basically every part of the population, I know someone who's a university professor, but should new eviction laws pass will soon be homeless

Don't know about the party organisation. But yeah, reports from Greece suggest a strong spirit and optimism in Syriza and among its voters.

A breath of fresh air in Europe. I hope Tsipras keeps challenging EU and Merkel and won't fall into the category of another Social Democrat/left-winger who can't/won't fight the financial power of EU when comfortable in Government.

Austerity is imho the biggest challenge of Europe currently. Japan in 90s all over again.

:xfinger: for majority.

 

[Lapa]

My new gf would be fucking disappointed if she knew I did drugs.

I told about my alcohol problem, drug using etc. for my gf right when we met.. it was better that way. I've never had problems with drugs though, smoking weed sometimes ain't a problem really.

What you have done in the past doesn't have to define who you are today.

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Fucking Peelan pissed my betting.. will bet only on Ligue 1, La 8-0 Liga and EPL today.

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I smoked a little bit of weed tonight but I drank a lot and sniffed 2 grams of coke with another friend.

Wait, what? You DID drugs, like some time ago? But yesterday you snored coke?

Dang, you done gone wild m8

I've never done coke, and I think I never will, I'm scared 4life about it and heroin

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Should I get some sleep before the game or wait for it? It's 4am here

No sleep for you, you lazy fuck. Keep me entertained!

 

[Fred]

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Of course, visited the country a few times the past three years, and a friend/acquaintance of mine is probably gonna get elected into parliamant today for Syriza

Syriza is in many ways what modern social democratic parties should be. I mean they are still a very new party, with all advantages and drawbacks that has. On the one hand, there's a drive and commitement that's only seldom seen in other more established parties, but I also have to admit that their organiation is probably still a little bit more fragile than the one of others. In any way, I really hope they can get absolute majority today (which is very well possible with the majority-favouring voting system in Greece). What happens afterwards, especially the actual reactions of the EU will be interesting, but it can't really be any worse than what's been happening the past few years. The pauperisation that has taken place is incredible really, and affects basically every part of the population, I know someone who's a university professor, but should new eviction laws pass will soon be homeless

What do you do mate? or if you're in school what do you study?

 

[Dostoevsky]

A breath of fresh air in Europe. I hope Tsipras keeps challenging EU and Merkel and won't fall into the category of another Social Democrat/left-winger who can't/won't fight the financial power of EU when comfortable in Government.

Austerity is imho the biggest challenge of Europe currently. Japan in 90s all over again.

:xfinger: for majority.

Austerity for countries that are currently in development is worse than ebola.

I don't see that as an issue but more like a throughout plan provided by IMF and others to bring countries on their keens. With globalization what we're seeing today is nothing else exploiting the work-force, using low ass wages to make industrial profits higher.

So I don't think it's a challenge but more like a cancer.

 

[Ocelot]

Don't know about the party organisation. But yeah, reports from Greece suggest a strong spirit and optimism in Syriza and among its voters.

A breath of fresh air in Europe. I hope Tsipras keeps challenging EU and Merkel and won't fall into the category of another Social Democrat/left-winger who can't/won't fight the financial power of EU when comfortable in Government.

Don't think that will happen to Tspiras, but the problem is that should the rest of EU directly oppose them and their policy, Greece can't really improve its situation on its own. I mean the basic problem of the EU crisis is the divergence in terms of unit labor costs between South European countries and northern (mainly Germany). In Germany wages have stagnated while productivity has risen rather strongly continuosly, which means that while production has increased, domestic demand hasn't risen, and all their additional produce went into export. In south European countries, wages have risen, perhaps a little bit too strongly (though from 2008 onwards they've of course fallen to extremely low levels, again significantly harming demand), and their unit labor costs have been very high compared to Germany's, which is why they got flooded by German exports and their economy couldn't really develop. What Germany needs to realise is that with their policy of keeping wages down, they're at least as much to blame for the crisis as the "lazy" Greeks, their impressive economic figures can only exist at the cost of other countries. Not to speak of the disadvantages 90% of the German population experience due to their low wages, they got an incredible and often overlooked amount of "working poor" over there.
Normally Greece & Co. would devalue their currency to make up for this, but with the common currency, they can't. So without any change in (mostly) German economic policy, the only remaining solution would be to exit the Euro zone, with all the problems that comes with it, at least in the short term.

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Austerity for countries that are currently in development is worse than ebola.

I don't see that as an issue but more like a throughout plan provided by IMF and others to bring countries on their keens. With globalization what we're seeing today is nothing else exploiting the work-force, using low ass wages to make industrial profits higher.

So I don't think it's a challenge but more like a cancer.

Austerity can't work if a country of already in recession/crisis, and there is no significant foreign investment. In such a situation, private households as well as companies are already reducing consumption to ensure their financial survival, if the state now also cuts back on investment, the economy will only contract further. Besides all the other problems that comes with that, e.g. poverty & unemployment, the budgetary situation of the government will only deteriorate further, as income from taxes decrease and expenses for social security increase. It's a vicious circle.

 

[Dostoevsky]

You just painted what I said with prettier words.

 

[Ocelot]

You just painted what I said with prettier words.

And said that it doesn't even achieve what it wants to do, aka consilidate budgets

But yeah, I wasn't objecting to what you said

 

[Maddy]

Don't think that will happen to Tspiras, but the problem is that should the rest of EU directly oppose them and their policy, Greece can't really improve its situation on its own. I mean the basic problem of the EU crisis is the divergence in terms of unit labor costs between South European countries and northern (mainly Germany). In Germany wages have stagnated while productivity has risen rather strongly continuosly, which means that while production has increased, domestic demand hasn't risen, and all their additional produce went into export. In south European countries, wages have risen, perhaps a little bit too strongly (though from 2008 onwards they've of course fallen to extremely low levels, again significantly harming demand), and their unit labor costs have been very high compared to Germany's, which is why they got flooded by German exports and their economy couldn't really develop. What Germany needs to realise is that with their policy of keeping wages down, they're at least as much to blame for the crisis as the "lazy" Greeks, their impressive economic figures can only exist at the cost of other countries. Not to speak of the disadvantages 90% of the German population experience due to their low wages, they got an incredible and often overlooked amount of "working poor" over there.
Normally Greece & Co. would devalue their currency to make up for this, but with the common currency, they can't. So without any change in (mostly) German economic policy, the only remaining solution would be to exit the Euro zone, with all the problems that comes with it, at least in the short term.

Yep. Actually an interesting thing that EU and especially southern Europe is so economical and financial dependent on Germany. That's obvious seeing the size of the German economy, but it's still something that's rather problematic from a democratic view point.

I remember reading a report on the German Economy suggesting that if the German Economy is too avoid stagnation or even negative growth the coming years, they have to increase domestic demand through increased purchasing power (wages need to go up) and the new minimum wage isn't nearly enough. The German financial stubbornness will in the end bite them in the ass.

I saw an interesting suggestion about umbrella money to increase growth in EU. Quite simply give pocket money to the population of the countries is severe hardship. Can't see it get any support in Northern and Western Europe. But it's time to be creative.

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Austerity for countries that are currently in development is worse than ebola.

I don't see that as an issue but more like a throughout plan provided by IMF and others to bring countries on their keens. With globalization what we're seeing today is nothing else exploiting the work-force, using low ass wages to make industrial profits higher.

So I don't think it's a challenge but more like a cancer.

A very polemic way to express it

 

[Dostoevsky]

And said that it doesn't even achieve what it wants to do, aka consilidate budgets

But yeah, I wasn't objecting to what you said

What I find disgusting is privatization. I think it was well implemented to murder many countries. Privatization per se is not something bad or something to avoid, but how they did it here (and in many other countries) with all the rush and taking down the price is simply what took this country 30 years back. Majority of companies and industries were bought for peanuts and after a short period of time it got shut down. What it ended up with was many people left out of job and no production continued. We're simply not producing anything right now. Those companies are used for rents right now and everything pretty much vanished. Then we came to a place when we needed to return the credit given so we called IMF to 'help' us. It just let us into mud and despair. Ever since they came here it's austerity measures and nothing else. In a period when we needed investments and an open economy our geniuses accepted austerity measures which led to a huge rate of poverty. Not just that but they started manipulating numbers. It's also disgusting how the method of calculating inflation has changed since 80s and it has come to a point where they lie and hide at least 5% of additional inflation. They are also bigger thieves for making products like chocolate, chips etc. smaller yet they hold the same price. So basically it's giving less products for the same price. And they don't think that's inflation.. what goes in their favor is uneducated people who are not even interested in anything out there; or are preocuppied with the idea of survival with a couple of pennies per month. At the same time housing prices have gone up and to rate where people can't afford one even in their dream, especially because jobs are unstable like never before and because wages are bottom deep. Starting a private business is very hard, if not impossible, since interest rates are above 20% already. Yet even at this point what we're doing is calling IMF for another line of credit which will last for around three years and what will make us go backwards for another 20 years. When somebody mentions austerity I get a tear in my eye. Some even think it's reasonable decision, which makes two tears come out from my eyes.

 

[Fred]

Don't think that will happen to Tspiras, but the problem is that should the rest of EU directly oppose them and their policy, Greece can't really improve its situation on its own. I mean the basic problem of the EU crisis is the divergence in terms of unit labor costs between South European countries and northern (mainly Germany). In Germany wages have stagnated while productivity has risen rather strongly continuosly, which means that while production has increased, domestic demand hasn't risen, and all their additional produce went into export. In south European countries, wages have risen, perhaps a little bit too strongly (though from 2008 onwards they've of course fallen to extremely low levels, again significantly harming demand), and their unit labor costs have been very high compared to Germany's, which is why they got flooded by German exports and their economy couldn't really develop. What Germany needs to realise is that with their policy of keeping wages down, they're at least as much to blame for the crisis as the "lazy" Greeks, their impressive economic figures can only exist at the cost of other countries. Not to speak of the disadvantages 90% of the German population experience due to their low wages, they got an incredible and often overlooked amount of "working poor" over there.
Normally Greece & Co. would devalue their currency to make up for this, but with the common currency, they can't. So without any change in (mostly) German economic policy, the only remaining solution would be to exit the Euro zone, with all the problems that comes with it, at least in the short term.

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Austerity can't work if a country of already in recession/crisis, and there is no significant foreign investment. In such a situation, private households as well as companies are already reducing consumption to ensure their financial survival, if the state now also cuts back on investment, the economy will only contract further. Besides all the other problems that comes with that, e.g. poverty & unemployment, the budgetary situation of the government will only deteriorate further, as income from taxes decrease and expenses for social security increase. It's a vicious circle.

Why did you ignore my question

 

[Maddy]

Why did you ignore my question

@Ocelot

 

[swag]

Landed a job interview for Monday afternoon and I'm so nervous. It's for a small women's clothing boutique, and I'm pretty sure a lot of what makes or breaks the interview is how I look/what I'm wearing, maybe even more than the interview questions. That's the impression I got anyway when I met with the store manager to schedule it. Of course I always dress well for interviews, but I have to take extra care to make sure everything is put together perfectly and in the right "style" for the shop. I'll probably end up second guessing my outfit for an hour.

Good luck. Have a friend scout out the place for you as a secret shopper.

true, deception is always the best policy

your life is like a soap opera

Self-inflicted.

Of course, visited the country a few times the past three years, and a friend/acquaintance of mine is probably gonna get elected into parliamant today for Syriza

Syriza is in many ways what modern social democratic parties should be. I mean they are still a very new party, with all advantages and drawbacks that has. On the one hand, there's a drive and commitement that's only seldom seen in other more established parties, but I also have to admit that their organiation is probably still a little bit more fragile than the one of others. In any way, I really hope they can get absolute majority today (which is very well possible with the majority-favouring voting system in Greece). What happens afterwards, especially the actual reactions of the EU will be interesting, but it can't really be any worse than what's been happening the past few years. The pauperisation that has taken place is incredible really, and affects basically every part of the population, I know someone who's a university professor, but should new eviction laws pass will soon be homeless

Good luck with the elections. Everyone is watching.

What I find disgusting is privatization. I think it was well implemented to murder many countries. Privatization per se is not something bad or something to avoid, but how they did it here (and in many other countries) with all the rush and taking down the price is simply what took this country 30 years back. Majority of companies and industries were bought for peanuts and after a short period of time it got shut down. What it ended up with was many people left out of job and no production continued. We're simply not producing anything right now. Those companies are used for rents right now and everything pretty much vanished. Then we came to a place when we needed to return the credit given so we called IMF to 'help' us. It just let us into mud and despair. Ever since they came here it's austerity measures and nothing else. In a period when we needed investments and an open economy our geniuses accepted austerity measures which led to a huge rate of poverty. Not just that but they started manipulating numbers. It's also disgusting how the method of calculating inflation has changed since 80s and it has come to a point where they lie and hide at least 5% of additional inflation. They are also bigger thieves for making products like chocolate, chips etc. smaller yet they hold the same price. So basically it's giving less products for the same price. And they don't think that's inflation.. what goes in their favor is uneducated people who are not even interested in anything out there; or are preocuppied with the idea of survival with a couple of pennies per month. At the same time housing prices have gone up and to rate where people can't afford one even in their dream, especially because jobs are unstable like never before and because wages are bottom deep. Starting a private business is very hard, if not impossible, since interest rates are above 20% already. Yet even at this point what we're doing is calling IMF for another line of credit which will last for around three years and what will make us go backwards for another 20 years. When somebody mentions austerity I get a tear in my eye. Some even think it's reasonable decision, which makes two tears come out from my eyes.

How are home prices going up if the economy is shrinking, jobs are scarce, and people have less money? Is it foreign buyers?

 

[Dostoevsky]

How are home prices going up if the economy is shrinking, jobs are scarce, and people have less money? Is it foreign buyers?

Nope. And I honestly have no clue. They only thing that makes sense is if they are manipulating prices and if it's a bubble because otherwise it's goes against the common sense.

I think home prices in England are also rising while their economy is going down the drain.

And sadly, politicians use that as an example of growing economy, as they think individuals are getting richer, which is quite bizarre.

 

[Ocelot]

Why did you ignore my question

Oh, I'm still in school. Just interested in this kinda stuff

 

[Dostoevsky]

Oh, I'm still in school. Just interested in this kinda stuff

And yet you ignored his question again. He asked what the fuck are you studying... ffs.

 

[Ocelot]

How are home prices going up if the economy is shrinking, jobs are scarce, and people have less money? Is it foreign buyers?

I don't know the situation in Serbia exactly, but in general inflation doesn't have to be the result of more (aggregate) demand, less (aggregate) supply can just as well be the cause, which is the case in Serbia I guess.

 

[Maddy]

I think home prices in England are also rising while their economy is going down the drain.

The British economy is doing well compared with the rest of Europe, albeit mainly London benefits from the growth.

The reason for the increased house prices is the spillover effect from London, rising population, income recovery and poor supply of new homes being build.

Land is very expensive in Britain (England).

 

[adRHCP]

No sleep for you, you lazy $#@!. Keep me entertained!

Sorry, I had to

Man, you can't even compare those two. Coke is drug for kings. Heroin is death.

Agree about heroin

Good, don't go near those stuff.

Promise :xfinger: