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I didn't actually lose it. It was just unorganized and all over the place. I was missing pieces of my collections from archive to archive so I went ahead and rebuilt the collection and then uploaded everything to a single location while having the physical copies on my extHD
:tup: Am trying to sort out my hard disks 3TB. Exhausting!
 

swag

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Steve Jobs. Man.

That guy.
That guy thought he could outsmart cancer by eating nothing but carrots. And it's exactly that kind of thinking -- where he dithered for a year with his own crackpot health schemes instead of seeking an actual doctor for treatment -- that got him killed.

Kind of a shithead in some regards, really.

So it will be just like the US version of The Wire, but with unsolved mysteries of rotting corpses and disemboweled family members?
 

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That guy thought he could outsmart cancer by eating nothing but carrots. And it's exactly that kind of thinking -- where he dithered for a year with his own crackpot health schemes instead of seeking an actual doctor for treatment -- that got him killed.

Kind of a shithead in some regards, really.



So it will be just like the US version of The Wire, but with unsolved mysteries of rotting corpses and disemboweled family members?
No, it will have personal elements from persons here, but they will make it in the spirit of The Wire.
 

Dostoevsky

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That guy thought he could outsmart cancer by eating nothing but carrots. And it's exactly that kind of thinking -- where he dithered for a year with his own crackpot health schemes instead of seeking an actual doctor for treatment -- that got him killed.

Kind of a shithead in some regards, really.
Don't know anything about that.

What I do know is that he was worth 100k dollars when he was 23yo (my freaking age). And it even reached 2.3 billion, which is rather crazy. He was a brilliant entrepreneur who changed the tech industry and the whole world. He did too many fascinating things.

Did he kill himself? Doctors told him he had 6 months to live as it was incurable cancer.
 

Völler

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Don't know anything about that.

What I do know is that he was worth 100k dollars when he was 23yo (my freaking age). And it even reached 2.3 billion, which is rather crazy. He was a brilliant entrepreneur who changed the tech industry and the whole world. He did too many fascinating things.

Did he kill himself? Doctors told him he had 6 months to live as it was incurable cancer.
Are you reading his biography now or something? :D I did that a year or two ago, and my view of him is worse now. Sure, he had a great sense of knowing what worked and what didn't, but in terms of his personality, he struck me as a douche. Also, he was lucky to be with the right guy at the right time, but of course, as I said, Jobs knew what worked and how to market it. And yes, I have Apple gear. :p
 

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He decided that going forward with Apple Maps was more important than his own health
It's not even a choice if you hear it's an incurable cancer now, is it?

Are you reading his biography now or something? :D I did that a year or two ago, and my view of him is worse now. Sure, he had a great sense in knowing what worked and what didn't, but in terms of his personality, he struck me as a douche. Also, he was lucky to be with the right guy at the right time, but of course, as I said, Jobs knew what worked and how to market it. And yes, I have Apple gear. :p
Yeah :p

Seeing he was a prick was a time when he was younger, which is in the most cases natural, especially if a person is ego-centric. He had everything go in his way (or he actually made it), he made millions. His plan was always to keep moving and he did. He was not one of those guys who can keep friends and do the job. Most of the time he just looked at his own ass to do the job right and he did. It gives a feeling he was way more mature when he came back to Apple, though. It can be classified as luck, but he was like a born leader. He had visions and he was creative, he knew how to make things right which he proved far too many times. It was a skill. Had he gone bankrupt and if you threw him at some other continent he'd make millions yet again because he simply had it in him. But then again I don't want to comment much on his personality as much as I wanted to point out his great business sense.
 

Zé Tahir

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How's the life going Tahir?
My grandmother passed away two months back so I had to go to Pakistan last-minute for the funeral. Came back to play catch-up on my studying, looking for a temp job while I try to get my Flight Instructor license so I can finally start flying for a living. It's been a bit hectic but I'm catching up.

How about yourself?

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Danish ppls, I have a friend who's got a 23hr lay-over in Copenhagen. Anyone care to show him around/slash get wasted with him? :D He's Hatian-American who works as a Aviation Consultant.

@Nzoric @Völler @W @Søren Krarup

I can't remember who's in/near Copenhagen and who's not.
 

swag

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No, it will have personal elements from persons here, but they will make it in the spirit of The Wire.
I've seen the Danish version of Teletubbies, and even it has unsolved mysteries of rotting corpses and disemboweled family members. :pado:

Don't know anything about that.

What I do know is that he was worth 100k dollars when he was 23yo (my freaking age). And it even reached 2.3 billion, which is rather crazy. He was a brilliant entrepreneur who changed the tech industry and the whole world. He did too many fascinating things.

Did he kill himself? Doctors told him he had 6 months to live as it was incurable cancer.
He wasn't a brilliant entrepreneur as much as he was a brilliant marketer and showman. People easily forget things like NeXT computer, the Apple Newton, etc. But I understand that. As they said in The Walking Dead last night, people want heroes. They need them. So they're willing to ignore the parts that don't fit the picture they need.

He had cancer and could have taken aggressive treatment with a science-and-evidenced-based medical approach. Instead he resorted to his own campy mythology of how to cure cancer with a diet exclusively of carrots or apples. Dumbass.

He decided that going forward with Apple Maps was more important than his own health
:lol:
 

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My grandmother passed away two months back so I had to go to Pakistan last-minute for the funeral. Came back to play catch-up on my studying, looking for a temp job while I try to get my Flight Instructor license so I can finally start flying for a living. It's been a bit hectic but I'm catching up.

How about yourself?
Eh. My condolences. :sad:

Wait, what studying now, aren't you done with that? :D I thought you had that license last year or something. I guess I got everything wrong. :p

Not bad, but far from good I guess. I've graduated like 3 months ago and since I couldn't really afford MA I decided to pause a bit. So right now I'm looking for a job which seems rather impossible. It's a too big mess here so people wait for job for over a year. I'm kinda stuck there which makes life less fun since there's not much money around at the moment.
 

Völler

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Seeing he was a prick was a time when he was younger, which is in the most cases natural, especially if a person is ego-centric. He had everything go in his way (or he actually made it), he made millions. His plan was always to keep moving and he did. He was not one of those guys who can keep friends and do the job. Most of the time he just looked at his own ass to do the job right and he did. It gives a feeling he was way more mature when he came back to Apple, though. It can be classified as luck, but he was like a born leader. He had visions and he was creative, he knew how to make things right which he proved far too many times. It was a skill. Had he gone bankrupt and if you threw him at some other continent he'd make millions yet again because he simply had it in him. But then again I don't want to comment much on his personality as much as I wanted to point out his great business sense.
I'm not sure if I agree if he's the born leader since he wasn't too good with most of his employers. He had vision, but he was also a one dimensional guy. Things had to work his way both when it came to Apple, his diet, etc. But he was a great business man, no doubt about it.
 

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I'm not sure if I agree if he's the born leader since he wasn't too good with most of his employers. He had vision, but he was also a one dimensional guy. Things had to work his way both when it came to Apple, his diet, etc. But he was a great business man, no doubt about it.
He had enough hubris and an inflated sense of his arrogant self that he was able to overlook obstacles and simply stake out territory nobody would dare try. Which is great when you succeed. But when you fail, as he did by not seeking reasonable treatment for his cancer, you can fail spectacularly as well. The both sort of go together.
 

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IHe wasn't a brilliant entrepreneur as much as he was a brilliant marketer and showman. People easily forget things like NeXT computer, the Apple Newton, etc. But I understand that. As they said in The Walking Dead last night, people want heroes. They need them. So they're willing to ignore the parts that don't fit the picture they need.
Having earn billion of dollars makes him a brilliant entrepreneur in my books. Being a great marketer and showman were his skills that led him to the path of glory/money. You can even call him a clown but he knew how to make tons of money. He had both and it's what led him to success. A couple of (or even dozens) failures doesn't have to change much. Look at his profits and losses, even with those failures he made billions and surely didn't lose 1/4 of that. Also, it was Apple that almost went bankrupt when he wasn't there. It was yet again him who made them stand on their feet when he came back. People don't need to ignore those things, his achievements were simply too big to be compared with some failures. Everyone fails. Failures lead to stronger version of yourself if you keep going. He changed the whole industry, even the whole world. That's only a fact at this point.

He had cancer and could have taken aggressive treatment with a science-and-evidenced-based medical approach. Instead he resorted to his own campy mythology of how to cure cancer with a diet exclusively of carrots or apples. Dumbass.
I didn't read/hear anything about that. All I know is that he heard it's incurable cancer. To me it didn't sound like any aggressive treatment would help his cause. In most of the cases it doesn't. He might have extended his life for a year, though. People think differently, can't diss his own reasonings. He had death written on his forehead, it was just a matter of action how will you deal with it. Would he really cure anything with the other treatment? I don't think so. Maybe. But maybe not.

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I'm not sure if I agree if he's the born leader since he wasn't too good with most of his employers. He had vision, but he was also a one dimensional guy. Things had to work his way both when it came to Apple, his diet, etc. But he was a great business man, no doubt about it.
Not a good leader for employers? Quite likely. But he was a leader for the company and he made the results. Not all leaders know how to deal with people, but they all know how to get a job done.
 

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