What about Juve annoys you?! (11 Viewers)

Primo

Juventus FC - Philippines
Dec 20, 2002
1,436
Catenaccio is what others have branded the Italian style of play.

It is to lock-up the defense by soaking the field with defenders and midfielders and leaving only at least one to attack. This tactic, which has become an art, perfected by the Italians, worked during the early 90s. It has constantly confused a lot of teams by dominating the possession in a match, but losing in the end by just a single goal from only a fraction of attacks.

This sort of play has become utterly unattractive, espeically to the English fans who are used to the EPL where only a handful of defenders take pride in what they do. They take into consideration more the attacking aspect of the game. *No offense, but I am making this statement as comparison to the Italian game.

Catenaccio has been adopted by a lot of coaches and clubs during the past decade, including Trapattoni and sometimes, Lippi with Juve during his time. Inter Milan used to adapt this tactic by leaving Bobo alone on top. Fiorentina used to adapt this tactic during the times of Batistuta, although I do not recall anymore who their coach was during that time. Take note that it was highly effective during the early parts of its popularity. But modern times have created new and magestic players who could breakdown defenses. Examples of such are: Zidane, Henry, Ronaldo, Del Piero, and Shevchenko just to name a few. And Catenaccio has recently failed lived up to its name.

Catenaccio certainly isn't entertaining when it comes to the "Neutral" fan. But those who are more inclined to football learn to appreciate the beauty of this art. The defense and total dedication to tactical solidity of the entire team, and precision and grace in attack.

Discipline, and swift counter-attacking is what Catenaccio is all about.
 

Seven

In bocca al lupo, Fabio.
Jun 25, 2003
39,340
++ [ originally posted by gray ] ++

you're totally missing the point; I'm not here to feel high and mighty and threaten you guys, but when a thread that's meant to be about Juve turns into a swearing match, I don't think the rest of the forum wants to open up this thread hoping for an intelligent discussion, only to find a bunch of people acting 10 years younger than they are. It's a waste of server space and a waste of other people's time. We've got a private messaging function; if u wanna have petty little fights, feel free to do so over PM








Your last two sentences sound like borderline anarchy to me. "We'll throw insults at people (new members no less), and if they get offended, they can get the fck out". What kind of a stupid policy is that? This is a forum that's open to the public, so you can't just expect people to put up with that kind of behaviour towards them. Imagine if you were new to the forums, and the established members told you to throw yourself out of a window, then said "hey, you put up with our insults, or you can just leave"; would you really wanna come back here? I think not

Criticising a player's performances and saying that they need to improve is different from spitting in their faces and replacing their names with swear words.

Del Piero is frustratingly inconsistent and a little overweight, not "useless fatso Del Shittio". I'm not talking about using euphemisms here and sugar-coating insults here, but if you're gonna give criticism, at least be constructive about it
Still, what bothers me is that there are a bunch of rules if you want to use this forum. It isn't like someone that gets insulted is really hurt or anything, you're looking at a screen FFS. Doesn't this look a lot like high school, which we all hate, with people like Gray giving detention and stuff :D?
 

Lilianna

Senior Member
Apr 3, 2003
15,969
++ [ originally posted by River ] ++


A month ago you wanted to kill me because i say he could be gay. Back then i also remember you having a strange fetish with him. What happened? :D
you asked what's buffon...
and i answered....


:)
 

Lilianna

Senior Member
Apr 3, 2003
15,969
++ [ originally posted by River ] ++
Seriously though. I never thought id see the day Liliana would turn her back on Gigi Buffoon (opps did i break the rules?;))
i don't like repeating myself but it seems i'll have to.
you didn't ask what's buffon to me.
you asked what is he in geenral

;)
 

Elnur_E65

Senior Member
Feb 21, 2004
10,848
++ [ originally posted by Primo ] ++
Catenaccio is what others have branded the Italian style of play.

It is to lock-up the defense by soaking the field with defenders and midfielders and leaving only at least one to attack. This tactic, which has become an art, perfected by the Italians, worked during the early 90s. It has constantly confused a lot of teams by dominating the possession in a match, but losing in the end by just a single goal from only a fraction of attacks.

This sort of play has become utterly unattractive, espeically to the English fans who are used to the EPL where only a handful of defenders take pride in what they do. They take into consideration more the attacking aspect of the game. *No offense, but I am making this statement as comparison to the Italian game.

Catenaccio has been adopted by a lot of coaches and clubs during the past decade, including Trapattoni and sometimes, Lippi with Juve during his time. Inter Milan used to adapt this tactic by leaving Bobo alone on top. Fiorentina used to adapt this tactic during the times of Batistuta, although I do not recall anymore who their coach was during that time. Take note that it was highly effective during the early parts of its popularity. But modern times have created new and magestic players who could breakdown defenses. Examples of such are: Zidane, Henry, Ronaldo, Del Piero, and Shevchenko just to name a few. And Catenaccio has recently failed lived up to its name.

Catenaccio certainly isn't entertaining when it comes to the "Neutral" fan. But those who are more inclined to football learn to appreciate the beauty of this art. The defense and total dedication to tactical solidity of the entire team, and precision and grace in attack.

Discipline, and swift counter-attacking is what Catenaccio is all about.
Well... Porto has won 5 competitions in the past 24 months by playing Cetenaccio... and the new European Champion was following this strategy too.

What kind of future does football have?
 

River

Senior Member
Jun 15, 2004
2,261
++ [ originally posted by Lilianna ] ++


i don't like repeating myself but it seems i'll have to.
you didn't ask what's buffon to me.
you asked what is he in geenral

;)
I quoted what you had said Nedved was to you, and asked whats buffon. I meant to you.

Its not often you use that kind of humour, i like it :D. even though it dosent really work on you :D

Ok so whats Buffon to you?
 

Primo

Juventus FC - Philippines
Dec 20, 2002
1,436
++ [ originally posted by Elnur_E65 ] ++


Well... Porto has won 5 competitions in the past 24 months by playing Cetenaccio... and the new European Champion was following this strategy too.

What kind of future does football have?
I just hope that people will have a deeper appreciation for the game, and not just the goals.
 

Elnur_E65

Senior Member
Feb 21, 2004
10,848
++ [ originally posted by Primo ] ++


I just hope that people will have a deeper appreciation for the game, and not just the goals.
Deeper appreciation for the game?

I've stopped watching Formula 1 this season because it is not interesting for me.

I don't wanna stop watching football.
 

Paris1

Junior Member
Jul 6, 2004
66
++ [ originally posted by Lilianna ] ++
WHAT?
oh paris come on!

he is our captain!
he is DEL PIERO.
we can't just through him away!!!

btw,paris..where are you from?
Darling, Del Boy may be our captain but he sure doesn't play like one. I am a dedicated fan as anyone.....and I want to see my team once again dominate Italy, Europe and the world....and I feel that Del Piero is no longer a player who can help us, yet our managment favuors him too much.....and so I criticised. Big Deal to all those morons who called me names.

As for where I am from?I am a Greek living in England. I am named after the legendary Greek Hero. Paris of Troy. However, I have yet to find my Helena
 

Lilianna

Senior Member
Apr 3, 2003
15,969
++ [ originally posted by Paris1 ] ++


Darling, Del Boy may be our captain but he sure doesn't play like one. I am a dedicated fan as anyone.....and I want to see my team once again dominate Italy, Europe and the world....and I feel that Del Piero is no longer a player who can help us, yet our managment favuors him too much.....and so I criticised. Big Deal to all those morons who called me names.

As for where I am from?I am a Greek living in England. I am named after the legendary Greek Hero. Paris of Troy. However, I have yet to find my Helena
i know who paris was.
i am greek too.

but it's very unpleasant to see someone calling names to our Captain...
i repsect and love him too much to be able to cope with that...
and with the fact he may not be the greatest as he used to be...
but we can't just through him away...and btw,let's give him a break!
he scored against moldavia,that was good and i heard he had an exellent performance!
 

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