Weston “Royale Avec Fromage” McKennie (82 Viewers)
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Just like I stated with regards to Sandro, Tek, etc etc Wes should not stay somewhere he is not wanted. Juve management should just tell him you will get splinters sitting on the bench. Ball in your court. Don't see next contract as good as what you have been offered now when you haven't played in a year. Hate to see Wes be the example here but sooner or later Juve management has to have some balls with not catering player demands!
more of a coincidence/luck thing than anything else. when it comes to key passes or the quality of his final passes, many players performed much better than mckennie. he was lucky that vlahovic converted a few of his passes (5 of his league assists plus one in the cup were converted by dusan) while vlahovic missed many sitters that were assisted by other players
some factual context:
- jj players ranked by key passes per 90 minutes: hans (2,67 per 90), fagioli, chiesa, iling, kostic (1,98), miretti, yildiz, pogba, milik, cambiaso (1,44), mckennie (1,42)
- passes into final 1/3 per 90: mckennie ranks 18th
- passes into penalty area per 90: mckennie is 9th, 6th if you ignore those who played very little (pogba, mds, fagioli). chiesa 1,84, mckennie 0,97, practically tied with miretti (0,98)
- expected assists per 90: kostic, chiesa, milik (0,27-0,25) are the top3, mckennie 8th (0,14) behind the top3, then hans, cambiaso, iling, fagioli
it's an odd season for him. no wonder he never was an assist man. i think that his best asset is to position himself within the box, and yes, he provided a nice assist or two during this season, but he's very far from a regular assist machine. unfortunately, that is. if he was the second coming of pirlo, he wouldn't be on the market. but he's got the passing accuracy of an attacker and not because he takes too many risky passes, he is not on top in any defending metric, he stopped scoring years ago, not to mention his weight issues. if he was called fabrizio prepuzio, you'd keep shitting on him on a daily basis
some factual context:
- jj players ranked by key passes per 90 minutes: hans (2,67 per 90), fagioli, chiesa, iling, kostic (1,98), miretti, yildiz, pogba, milik, cambiaso (1,44), mckennie (1,42)
- passes into final 1/3 per 90: mckennie ranks 18th
- passes into penalty area per 90: mckennie is 9th, 6th if you ignore those who played very little (pogba, mds, fagioli). chiesa 1,84, mckennie 0,97, practically tied with miretti (0,98)
- expected assists per 90: kostic, chiesa, milik (0,27-0,25) are the top3, mckennie 8th (0,14) behind the top3, then hans, cambiaso, iling, fagioli
it's an odd season for him. no wonder he never was an assist man. i think that his best asset is to position himself within the box, and yes, he provided a nice assist or two during this season, but he's very far from a regular assist machine. unfortunately, that is. if he was the second coming of pirlo, he wouldn't be on the market. but he's got the passing accuracy of an attacker and not because he takes too many risky passes, he is not on top in any defending metric, he stopped scoring years ago, not to mention his weight issues. if he was called fabrizio prepuzio, you'd keep shitting on him on a daily basis
I didn't. Read my posts again. I said he isnt a star big top player worth 60-80m that villa been asking for for years (hence no one biting), but he is still a very good player. Would be significant upgrade for our midfield. Not just Mckennie but all the rest of our mids.
if the priced demand stayed like that, I would said go for cheaper players in similar level as him (Khepren thuram, Kökcu, Ederson etc)etc. But this swap trade is great opportunity for us. We defenitely need to get it down. Get upgrade in midfield for two expiring surplus players and some change.
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if the priced demand stayed like that, I would said go for cheaper players in similar level as him (Khepren thuram, Kökcu, Ederson etc)etc. But this swap trade is great opportunity for us. We defenitely need to get it down. Get upgrade in midfield for two expiring surplus players and some change.
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except we won’t. Come on - when was the last time we had a solid move coming from PL? Pogba v1? Honestly can’t remember and besides, I doubt AV would be dumb enough to let that happen. We would over pay for another PL player and lose a solid squad player in return.
keep Weston and figuer out a deal. He leaves he leaves, would rather risk that than get another overpaid PL player that we end up loaning after a season and we are in a worse position than when we started. Seen that movie before no thanks
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He could be very useful under someone like Motta, even more so than Allegri where he led the team in assists.
Motta gives me the vibes he likes players that just go out and do a solid shift.
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Glad we got science of “luck” to discuss. Mckennies assists are luck. Everyone else’s on the planet are down to skill.
Vlahovic was lucky to convert his assists I guess right?
End of the day those passes were converted to goals.
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And if his name was locatelli, I for one would be shitting on him because he sucks.
keep Weston and figuer out a deal. He leaves he leaves, would rather risk that than get another overpaid PL player that we end up loaning after a season and we are in a worse position than when we started. Seen that movie before no thanks
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He could be very useful under someone like Motta, even more so than Allegri where he led the team in assists.
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Glad we got science of “luck” to discuss. Mckennies assists are luck. Everyone else’s on the planet are down to skill.
Vlahovic was lucky to convert his assists I guess right?
End of the day those passes were converted to goals.
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And if his name was locatelli, I for one would be shitting on him because he sucks.
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Have you ever seen Douglas Luiz play? He is a quality player for sure.
Every news source says we agreed the swaps with Aston villa and the player. It's only Mckennie who is holding up the deal.
Mckennie won't resign to a deal club sees as affordable for his role, so his contract is expiring. And he won't have much suitors and the few who would be interested will low ball us because he is expiring.
So the fact we found a swap trade to get quality starter for 2 players in similar depreciating status as soon to be expiring with low interest for good bids, it's very ideal sitaution for Juventus. Especially since we cash strapped.
Like theres no downside to this? Only downside is this deal collapsing and finding another alternative mid we will have to pay bigger sum of cash without swap deal. And having Illing jr and Mckennie around when they won't re sign new contracts.
So I'm not sure what we objecting to here?
Because that EPL question is just bs whataboutism? Like it doesn't matter at all. We haven't been shopping in EPL much, and every deal and every player is different.
We shouldn't shop in EPL because Ramsey was a flop, but we should because Tevez, Evra and Pogba (v.1) were a success? It's pointless.
We should never shop in la liga because Arthur was a huge flop?