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Emmet said:
How the fuck has it come to be that people here are comparing Iniesta and Baggio when they play in two different positions, why don't we compare Buffon to Pele while we're at it?

To me Iniesta was always the better player between him and Xavi, no question about it. Take Iniesta away from Xavi and how effective is he?

It also seems to be hip on Tuz at the moment for people to take shots at Baggio, anyone who is old enough will know that he is without doubt the single greatest Italian player of the last 35 years. If Buffon says he's the best, who is anyone to argue with him?

People saying ''biggest choker ever'', what bollocks, he missed a penalty which wouldn't have mattered much in the end because Brazil would have scored in all likelihood and won the trophy anyway. People always overlook that he scored in the QF against France in '98 and the SF against Argentina.
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You never know that.
 
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    Emmet said:
    How the fuck has it come to be that people here are comparing Iniesta and Baggio when they play in two different positions, why don't we compare Buffon to Pele while we're at it?

    To me Iniesta was always the better player between him and Xavi, no question about it. Take Iniesta away from Xavi and how effective is he?

    It also seems to be hip on Tuz at the moment for people to take shots at Baggio, anyone who is old enough will know that he is without doubt the single greatest Italian player of the last 35 years. If Buffon says he's the best, who is anyone to argue with him?

    People saying ''biggest choker ever'', what bollocks, he missed a penalty which wouldn't have mattered much in the end because Brazil would have scored in all likelihood and won the trophy anyway. People always overlook that he scored in the QF against France in '98 and the SF against Argentina.
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    :tup::tup::tup:
     
    Knowah

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    ALC said:
    I can change the players before the game.

    @Knowah. Position doesn't matter, it's fantasy. I'm surprised you didn't knowah this.
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    I've never played this kind of fantasy so I assumed you pick a formation and then fill the formation with players in their correct positions. My mistake...
     
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    I see the stupidity has reached alarming levels on Tuz lately. Comparing Iniesta to Baggio (notwithstanding the fact that they are actually deployed in different positions), and calling Baggio a loser and a choker?! OMFG! :lol: :howler: Some of you must be children, or have completely lost your marbles (provided you had any to begin with!
     
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    Bianconero81 said:
    I see the stupidity has reached alarming levels on Tuz lately. Comparing Iniesta to Baggio (notwithstanding the fact that they are actually deployed in different positions), and calling Baggio a loser and a choker?! OMFG! :lol: :howler: Some of you must be children, or have completely lost your marbles (provided you had any to begin with!
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    :rofl: OMFG!!! :howler: :inter: :wink: :lol::lol2:
     
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    swag said:
    I've played on pitches that look far worse than that. And not from the extreme heat of Manaus.

    Sure, it's not polished UEFA style. But shit if every journalist doesn't want to go all Sochi Games on Brazil right now.
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    You kidding me? That's not even close to acceptable or appropriate for the World Cup opening game. You can see better pitches in Albanian stadiums sometimes. That's why I'm thinking the new pitch probably hasn't been laid yet. But if they stick with that, they deserve to be criticized.
     
    Vlad

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    Disgraceful pitch, no two ways about that. WC deserves better.

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    swag said:
    I've played on pitches that look far worse than that. And not from the extreme heat of Manaus.

    Sure, it's not polished UEFA style. But shit if every journalist doesn't want to go all Sochi Games on Brazil right now.
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    Yeah, kinda not the same. For a WC pitch should be in a better condition than for some local amateur game. :wink:
     
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    Kyle said:
    http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/socce...s-before-first-world-cup-match-203859043.html

    :sergio: how does this happen?
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    Brazil has quite the issue with fertile soil.
    The country deals with very high rainfall, and the undersoil water moves with a pretty fast gradient, cause of the natural flow of the bigger rivers towards the ocean.
    Partially because of, and partially cause of type, the tree's in the area have roots that dont go deep into the floor at all. the roots start from above, and spread out horizontally, not vertically.

    That creates quite a big issue. In a regular ecosystem with plenty of rain, tree's and several other eukaryotes have the ability to capture and hold nutrients flowing around. Often because they live in symbiosis with other species like various kind of fungus and baceria who interact with the roots.
    Thanks to this, in europe for example the fertile soil is pretty thick. Dont recall out of my head but its at least a meter if not several.

    In brazil however, because of the different fauna, the fertile soil is hardly 20-30cm thick. That is nothing. Cut down tree's, and you take away the few barriers you have left. The consequences is that the fertile soil and nutrients, just erode away with the steams (above and under soil) to the ocean.

    Because of this, its pretty hard to grow anything there. Its possible that the stadium is in a section where there is no fertile layer left.




    I'd like to point out an ecological mistake brazillians make. They cut down large sections of the rainforest for agriculture. However, because of phenomenons described above, they'll have 2-3 harvests at most, and its over.
    What they are basically creating, is some kind of desert without fertile layer.
     
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