[WC] World Cup 2010 - General Talk Thread (33 Viewers)

[king Ale]

How many calls are they going to get in their favor?

God I hate Spain

 

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[Gabriel]

Just wait until the referee frustrates the shit out of them.

Done.


disgusting to say the least.

 

[Alen]

It's offside because Barrios was offside and he was interfering with play....

Yes, I thought so too. Barrios jumped for that ball and was close to getting it. That ball was going his way and he was offside. He did interfere with the play.

 

[JBF]

It's offside because Barrios was offside and he was interfering with play....

How's that? Valdez was one-on-one with the keeper after he received that cross and no one was even close to him when he was in that position. And even if there was, since he's one-on-one he can pass the ball to the player in offside position for the later to score and the goal shouldn't be ruled out coz again, it's one-on-one.

 

[X Æ A-12]

It's offside because Barrios was offside and he was interfering with play....

True, you can see in the replay that he was challenging biscuits who then missed his header allowing the ball to fall to Valdez.

Still I think its a bad decision but I understand why the ref would make it.

 

[Fred]

Isn't this the supposedly entertaining Spain? Argentina and even Germany have been far more entertaining than this Spanish side. Paraguay doing rather well, hopefully they can snatch a goal here or there.

The majority watched him mainly for Germany and rated him high. Those members here from Germany, who followed Bundesliga, kept saying that he's bloody awful, so the others became skeptic too.

They were probably right at the time. As a winger, he is a good player, but maybe not that good. As a central midfielder, he has proven himself to be one of the best over the course of a whole season with Bayern and now with Germany at the WC. Ballacks injury was a blessing in disguise for them.

 

[JBF]

Yes, I thought so too. Barrios jumped for that ball and was close to getting it. That ball was going his way and he was offside. He did interfere with the play.

Even if so, I can't see how that is considered interfering in the play when he clearly haven't touched the ball.

 

[HAZEM]

How's that? Valdez was one-on-one with the keeper after he received that cross and no one was even close to him when he was in that position. And even if there was, since he's one-on-one he can pass the ball to the player in offside position for the later to score and the goal shouldn't be ruled out coz again, it's one-on-one.

 

[JuveJay]

It's pretty simple really:

- when the initial ball came in Barrios was clearly offside
- because he jumped for the header with the Spanish defender it is offside because he is directly becoming part of the play, it doesn't matter what happens afterwards

If Barrios had left it then it would have been a legitimate goal, but then the ball would probably not have fell to Valdez, because a Spanish player would have had a good chance to head it clear.

So it was a good call from the linesman, even though Paraguay deserve to be leading.

 

[JBF]

They were probably right at the time. As a winger, he is a good player, but maybe not that good. As a central midfielder, he has proven himself to be one of the best over the course of a whole season with Bayern and now with Germany at the WC. Ballacks injury was a blessing in disguise for them.

Didn't he play in the same position he's playing now in the qualifiers alongside Ballack while Khdeira was warming the bench?

 

[Fred]

Barrios? You guys mean Cardoso.

 

[Fred]

Didn't he play in the same position he's playing now in the qualifiers alongside Ballack while Khdeira was warming the bench?

I'm not sure. Didn't follow the German NT at the time, did he?

 

[king Ale]

Oh cut the crap, Barrios doesn't even play.

It was a 100% legitimate goal.

 

[JuveJay]

Even if so, I can't see how that is considered interfering in the play when he clearly haven't touched the ball.

Why do you have to touch the ball to be interfering with play?

 

[Alen]

Even if so, I can't see how that is considered interfering in the play when he clearly haven't touched the ball.

Well, the linesman kinda rushed in there. The flag was up before the ball came to Valdez (I think the whistle came at the moment Valdez got the ball?). The cross came in, the linesman sees offside and raises the flag. Then Valdez gets the ball and scores.

Such a shame for Paraguay, but the linesman can be excused.

 

[JuveJay]

Cardoso yes, sorry.

 

[Alen]

I go to follow the second half with a bunch of Barca fans. I hope I can make their life a hell in the 2nd half

FORZA PARAGUAY

 

[Fred]

Oh cut the crap, Barrios doesn't even play.

It was a 100% legitimate goal.

I myself thought that the offside rule has been changed, interference in play now equals touching the ball.

I could be wrong though.

 

[JBF]

It's pretty simple really:

- when the initial ball came in Barrios was clearly offside
- because he jumped for the header with the Spanish defender it is offside because he is directly becoming part of the play, it doesn't matter what happens afterwards

If Barrios had left it then it would have been a legitimate goal, but then the ball would probably not have fell to Valdez, because a Spanish player would have had a good chance to head it clear.

So it was a good call from the linesman, even though Paraguay deserve to be leading.

Did Barrios touch the ball? Coz if he hasn't then I can't see how's that considered interfering in the play as the Spanish defender did in fact jump simultaneously with him but neither got the ball.

 

[X Æ A-12]

Oh cut the crap, Barrios doesn't even play.

It was a 100% legitimate goal.

His interference with Biscuits prevented Spain from clearing the ball. That is as much of a contribution to the goal as if he headed it to Valdez himself.