Van der Vaart (16 Viewers)

[Ahmed]

^^ i like the way you think

 

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[Mark]

translation please?

Hamburger SV krijgt er nog een hele kluif aan om Rafael van der Vaart voor de club te behouden. De middenvelder heeft al diverse keren duidelijk gemaakt zeker niet binnen Duitsland van club te willen wisselen, maar inmiddels lijkt de eerste Europese topclub zich voor hem te hebben gemeld. Het voorboden om Juventus, dat volgens Bild tien miljoen euro voor de middenvelder over heeft.
Juventus is volledig onder de indruk van Van der Vaart. Hij moet onze spelmaker worden, zegt de 34-jarige Juve-middenvelder Pavel Nedved, toch niet de eerste de beste, in de Duitse krant. Van der Vaart zelf reageert ook op de vermeende interesse van de ploeg uit Turijn.

 

[Geof]

translation please?

Hamburger SV krijgt er nog een hele kluif aan om Rafael van der Vaart voor de club te behouden. De middenvelder heeft al diverse keren duidelijk gemaakt zeker niet binnen Duitsland van club te willen wisselen, maar inmiddels lijkt de eerste Europese topclub zich voor hem te hebben gemeld. Het voorboden om Juventus, dat volgens Bild tien miljoen euro voor de middenvelder over heeft.
Juventus is volledig onder de indruk van Van der Vaart. Hij moet onze spelmaker worden, zegt de 34-jarige Juve-middenvelder Pavel Nedved, toch niet de eerste de beste, in de Duitse krant. Van der Vaart zelf reageert ook op de vermeende interesse van de ploeg uit Turijn.

Basically:
HSV will have a difficult task to keep VDV. The midfielder said numeroustimes that he wouldn't change clubs inside Germany, but the first European topclub has shown interest. Juventus has 10M € for VDV acording to Bild (German rubbish newspaper).
Juve is impressed by VDV. "He has to be our playmaker" said Pavel Nedved in the German paper. VDV has already reacted to the interes of the Turin team.

 

[Mark]

so it's basically things we already know, thanks!

 

[Salvo]

this would be a better buy because we can get him 1 mill. and he has already said "juve charms him".

 

[Ahmed]

1 million in 2009, not now!

 

[Mark]

I'd be very surprised if we could get him for 1m €. I'm sure other clubs want him so his price will go up fast. Unless he really wants Juve and only Juve. Last year I read he'd love to play in Spain.

 

[Salvo]

oh ok. well any way i believe he will come cheaper than diego

 

[Attilio the Hun]

surely a better option than diego anyways as we will have giovinco as our diminutive playmaker. VdV would offer something very very different and has bags of european experience to boot.

 

[Salvo]

the European experience would help immensely after all a lot of our players have never played in the CL.

 

[Floris]

VDV more of a runner, makes things happen by his pace and is quite a good finisher...Diego more samba-style, dribbling and deadly passing...either way it looks good....very tough to choose

I don't think that you have seen Vaart that much. VDV is not Robben, he hasn't that much pace and is not much of runner either. On the other hand his touch and technic is nothing less than Diego's, probable even better. The difference between Diego and VDV is that Diego makes the play faster, where as VDV decides games with a moment of brillance.

Look for yourself:


Some highlights of his first two seasons in Hamburg.

 

[Fred]

I agree with Floris on this one..Vaart is definitely not a runner..and he isnt exactly what you call fast..

And welcome to the forums Floris, i hope you enjoy your stay

 

[Floris]

I agree with Floris on this one..Vaart is definitely not a runner..and he isnt exactly what you call fast..

And welcome to the forums Floris, i hope you enjoy your stay

Thank you. As a Dutch Ajax-fan I would try to give the Juve-fans some information - I will try to be fair - about Vaart, Huntelaar(rumours),Maduro etc. And ofcourse give my opinion about some other things as well.

 

[DelpieroForLife]

can't we get both of them ?

Non of them is quite a possibility.

 

[Marc]

Thank you. As a Dutch Ajax-fan I would try to give the Juve-fans some information - I will try to be fair - about Vaart, Huntelaar(rumours),Maduro etc. And ofcourse give my opinion about some other things as well.

No, thank you. So, what are Juventus realistic chances to get Van der Vaart and when would it happen, how much money, etc? Does Rafael really want to move to Juve?

 

[Fred]

Thank you. As a Dutch Ajax-fan I would try to give the Juve-fans some information - I will try to be fair - about Vaart, Huntelaar(rumours),Maduro etc. And ofcourse give my opinion about some other things as well.

yes we might need that..as there is a certain dutch member thats misleading us to believe that all ajax and former ajax players are crap

 

[V]

yes we might need that..as there is a certain dutch member thats misleading us to believe that all ajax and former ajax players are crap

Imagine if Dom found out Camoranesi once played for Ajax at some point in time. For him, that'd be like finding out your son is from another man.

 

[Floris]

No, thank you. So, what are Juventus realistic chances to get Van der Vaart and when would it happen, how much money, etc? Does Rafael really want to move to Juve?

Yes, he stated that in the Dutch press. Don't forget, the Dutch, in general, like Italy. What Rafael thinks about Italy I don't know, but his wife will love it when he goes to Italy.

It depends for an important part on what the other offers are.

I think there has been put too much into his Spain connection. He will go to Spain when the sportive and financial aspects of the offer are the same, so not, he will go for the best offer. Just like almost every other football player.

At this moment Valencia and Athletico Madrid have made it public that they want him, and there are rumours about Arsenal( I don't believe that), Chelsea, Barcelona and Inter(don't worry about that one, Silvie hates Zlatan even more than Rafael).

I believe that Chelsea will be the tricky one. Ten Cate(assistent), Piet de Visser (scout) and Hiddink(very close with abrahmovic) are very big fans of Rafael, and Chelsea could use a player like him.

 

[Firestarter]

Yes, indeed Floris, I didn't know there was beef with Zlatan-VdV, that's a good thing I suppose. But yes, there are Dutch connection in Chelsea which he might like.

 

[Fred]

Yes, he stated that in the Dutch press. Don't forget, the Dutch, in general, like Italy. What Rafael thinks about Italy I don't know, but his wife will love it when he goes to Italy.

It depends for an important part on what the other offers are.

I think there has been put too much into his Spain connection. He will go to Spain when the sportive and financial aspects of the offer are the same, so not, he will go for the best offer. Just like almost every other football player.

At this moment Valencia and Athletico Madrid have made it public that they want him, and there are rumours about Arsenal( I don't believe that), Chelsea, Barcelona and Inter(don't worry about that one, Silvie hates Zlatan even more than Rafael).

I believe that Chelsea will be the tricky one. Ten Cate(assistent), Piet de Visser (scout) and Hiddink(very close with abrahmovic) are very big fans of Rafael, and Chelsea could use a player like him.

I wouldnt completely write it off, Vaart is the kind of player Arsene likes.