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[Slagathor]

++ [ originally posted by Majed ] ++
You can imagine that it's Bergkamp in the avatar.... How many Famous/celebrity Saudi-Americans do you know?

Fair enough

 

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[Amash]

++ [ originally posted by Majed ] ++


Not a Mjuslim sign to me and millions of others.

The Cross is obvious. The star, on the other hand, has nothing to do with Islam. My wild guess, somebody put a star next to a crescent because he did a poor-ass job drawing the crescent that he had to put a star next to it to make it show that it's in the sky. Eventually, the star got bigger and stuck with us.

Even the crescent is not a symbol for Islam. We don't have a symbol.

I think that u r wrong it IS sign of Islam. Green flag and white crescent with star on flag, that is muslims flag

 

[Majed]

++ [ originally posted by Amash ] ++
I think that u r wrong it IS sign of Islam. Green flag and white crescent with star on flag, that is muslims flag

Sorry, but I think i'd know my own religion.

You dig deep and research the origins of the crescent and star and come up with something reasonable.

According to my knowledge, at the time of the prophet, their flag was black with white Arabic script that says: "La ilah illa Allah."

There is no star that has any special place in Islam. There was nothing of a star. In fact, wishing upon a star is a sin in Islam. We only pray to Allah.

 

[Slagathor]

Stars are pretty though - not a bad symbol if you have to pick one...

Beats a cross... that's kinda scary

 

[Rami]

++ [ originally posted by Amash ] ++


I think that u r wrong it IS sign of Islam. Green flag and white crescent with star on flag, that is muslims flag

Currently it is considered to many the sign of Islam, but as I said earlier it has no religious significance. As majed said islam has no symbol. Flags and banners of early muslims had "al-shahada" (no god but one god and Mohamed is his prophet) written on them. the cresent I believe came from the fact that muslims use the moon to calculate months. thats it!! Unlike the cross which is of course a religious symbol.

 

[Majed]

++ [ originally posted by Erik ] ++
Stars are pretty though - not a bad symbol if you have to pick one...

Beats a cross... that's kinda scary

I think star symbols are corny. They're only nice in 1st grade when you do well in school and they place a star-shaped sticker on your forehead or on your notebook.

 

[Slagathor]

++ [ originally posted by Majed ] ++
I think star symbols are corny. They're only nice in 1st grade when you do well in school and they stick a star on your forehead or on your notebook.

lol yeah that's true

Never really seen cool logo's on religions... As far as coolest logo's go: I love the garbage men in this city - they have a dumpster as logo and they're proudly wearing it on their suits too

 

[Majed]

++ [ originally posted by Rami ] ++


Currently it is considered to many the sign of Islam, but as I said earlier it has no religious significance. As majed said islam has no symbol. Flags and banners of early muslims had "al-shahada" (no god but one god and Mohamed is his prophet) written on them. the cresent I believe came from the fact that muslims use the moon to calculate months. thats it!! Unlike the cross which is of course a religious symbol.

I like that word: "banner!" ("Rayah" in arabic, right?)

I should use it more often.

 

[Majed]

++ [ originally posted by Erik ] ++


lol yeah that's true

Never really seen cool logo's on religions... As far as coolest logo's go: I love the garbage men in this city - they have a dumpster as logo and they're proudly wearing it on their suits too

Cool.

The logo/symbol that i find wierd is the rainbow for gays and lesbians. What's with that?

 

[Rami]

++ [ originally posted by Majed ] ++


I like that word: "banner!" ("Rayah" in arabic, right?)

I should use it more often.

ya rayah is exactly what i meant

 

[Slagathor]

++ [ originally posted by Majed ] ++
Cool.

The logo/symbol that i find wierd is the rainbow for gays and lesbians. What's with that?

Who knows... I have it on a t-shirt though :strong:

 

[Amash]

I made mistake because where I live crescent with star represent Islam and I was learned that crescent with star is symbol of Islam. But I was not totally wrong
Take a look at this link it explains many things
http://islam.about.com/library/weekly/aa060401a.htm

 

[Rami]

++ [ originally posted by Majed ] ++


Cool.

The logo/symbol that i find wierd is the rainbow for gays and lesbians. What's with that?

I believe a rainbow is just a happy thing, and gay originally means "excessively happy" ....or at least that is how i related the logo to gays and lesbians

 

[JCK]

++ [ originally posted by Majed ] ++


Cool.

The logo/symbol that i find wierd is the rainbow for gays and lesbians. What's with that?

Here's your answer: http://jasewells.com/gayicons/#rainbow

 

[Rami]

++ [ originally posted by Amash ] ++
I made mistake because where I live crescent with star represent Islam and I was learned that crescent with star is symbol of Islam. But I was not totally wrong
Take a look at this link it explains many things
http://islam.about.com/library/weekly/aa060401a.htm

More or less what Majed and I have been trying to convince you

 

[Rami]

++ [ originally posted by Jeeks ] ++


Here's your answer: http://jasewells.com/gayicons/#rainbow

unless majed has a sattelite connection. he wont be able to see that!!

oh right i forgot he is a computer major...oh well..then i wont be able to see it

 

[Majed]

++ [ originally posted by Amash ] ++
I made mistake because where I live crescent with star represent Islam and I was learned that crescent with star is symbol of Islam. But I was not totally wrong
Take a look at this link it explains many things
http://islam.about.com/library/weekly/aa060401a.htm

Hate to say "I told you so" ....

Let me stress one part for those who are too lazy to follow the link:

"For hundreds of years, the Ottoman Empire ruled over the Muslim world. After centuries of battle with Christian Europe, it is understandable how the symbols of this empire became linked in people's minds with the faith of Islam as a whole.

Based on this history, many Muslims reject using the crescent moon as a symbol of Islam. The faith of Islam has historically had no symbol, and many refuse to accept what is essentially an ancient pagan icon. It is certainly not in uniform use among Muslims."


As for the current situation, yes, people and countries use it to represent Islam. That's false on their part.

So, the origin has nothing to do with Islam, and the reason for it's spread is political. (The ottoman empire where the symbol meant something to Turkey)

Thank you for looking in to it.

 

[Amash]

++ [ originally posted by Rami ] ++


More or less what Majed and I have been trying to convince you

I know but mine statements were not totally wrong

 

[Majed]

++ [ originally posted by Rami ] ++


unless majed has a sattelite connection. he wont be able to see that!!

oh right i forgot he is a computer major...oh well..then i wont be able to see it

I'd have to go to my parents home in Riyadh for Satellite. I'm stuck with Dial-up for now. I should apply for ADSL, but that'll just keep me online more. :undecided:

 

[JCK]

++ [ originally posted by Rami ] ++


unless majed has a sattelite connection. he wont be able to see that!!

oh right i forgot he is a computer major...oh well..then i wont be able to see it

Why? I can copy the explanation here if there are technical problems.

The Rainbow symbol

The rainbow flag has become the easily-recognized colors of pride for the gay community. The multicultural symbolism of the rainbow is nothing new — Jesse Jackson's Rainbow Coalition also embraces the rainbow as a symbol of that political movement. The rainbow also plays a part in many myths and stories related to gender and sexuality issues in Greek, Native American, African, and other cultures.

Use of the rainbow flag by the gay community began in 1978 when it first appeared in the San Francisco Gay and Lesbian Freedom Day Parade. Borrowing symbolism from the hippie movement and black civil rights groups, San Francisco artist Gilbert Baker designed the rainbow flag in response to a need for a symbol that could be used year after year. Baker and thirty volunteers hand-stitched and hand-dyed two huge prototype flags for the parade. The flags had eight stripes, each color representing a component of the community: hot pink for sex, red for life, orange for healing, yellow for sun, green for nature, turquoise for art, indigo for harmony, and violet for spirit.

The next year Baker approached San Francisco Paramount Flag Company to mass-produce rainbow flags for the 1979 parade. Due to production constraints — such as the fact that hot pink was not a commercially-available color — pink and turquoise were removed from the design, and royal blue replaced indigo. This six-color version spread from San Francisco to other cities, and soon became the widely-known symbol of gay pride and diversity it is today. It is even officially recognized by the International Congress of Flag Makers. In 1994, a huge 30-foot-wide by one-mile-long rainbow flag was carried by 10,000 people in New York's Stonewall 25 Parade.

The rainbow flag has inspired a wide variety of related symbols, such as freedom rings and other accessories. There are plenty of variations of the flag, including versions with a blue field of stars reminiscent of the American Stars and Stripes and versions with superimposed lambdas, pink triangles, or other symbols.