US Presidential Elections 2012 (6 Viewers)

[Enron]

I guess it's not based on facts.

Facts don't matter. It's about facts coming from a good source.

 

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[AndreaCristiano]

Because contraceptives are a way of prohibiting the spread of many serious diseases which in the end may end up costing the state (or private employer, depends on the healthcare plan) much, much more in the long run than sponsoring a pack of trojans would. And do you have a source to cite that claim? In 2008 1.21 million abortions happened in the US (Guttmacher Insittute & CDC), and it's estimated that roughly 300-400.000 thousand women are $#@!d annually in the United states. However you look upon it, it's a hell of a lot more than 0.1%, you insensitive douchebag.

No it's not you twat. I wasn't being insensitive
Here ya go from a liberal site the new York times
http://www.nytimes.com/1989/10/13/us/rape-and-incest-just-1-of-all-abortions.html

 

[Nzoric]

1987? And if you're talking about 1% you should learn where to put your fucking comma. 1% and 0.1% are so far from each other. And the higher number just makes your previous post that much worse

 

[AndreaCristiano]

No, of course not, but I do hope it would stop some from using abortion as birth control. And that's a great victory for me.

Well I agree. To me I can only condone it in rape or incest and life of the mother. What irks me is that out of the 60+million abortions since Roe v Wade only 1% were for that so were looking at what 300,000 since that decision

 

[AndreaCristiano]

1987? And if you're talking about 1% you should learn where to put your $#@!ing comma. 1% and 0.1% are so far from each other. And the higher number just makes your previous post that much worse

How come your dick is in a twist and Kate who is actually a woman is having a mature conversation?

 

[Nzoric]

No, of course not, but I do hope it would stop some from using abortion as birth control. And that's a great victory for me.

Furthermore I think the far right - sorry AC that's what you look like to me - have a very twisted outlook on the "pro-choice" camp. No one is advocating abortion as a way of birth control, it's just advocating the right to chose if you somehow become pregnant. I have a few friends who went though abortions, even though we are all very pro-choice and I can ASSURE you no parties were held and their lives still haven't recovered 3 years after. Like it isn't punishment enough what they go through when they make that decision, they have absolute tossers like AC picketing with idiotic signs in front of their clinics when they go to have the procedure done. Way to kick someone in the face while they're down, I really hope it makes them all feel better about their own miserable existences.

 

[Kate]

Well I agree. To me I can only condone it in rape or incest and life of the mother. What irks me is that out of the 60+million abortions since Roe v Wade only 1% were for that so were looking at what 300,000 since that decision

The part of me who has never been pregnant says that I agree that, in an ideal world, it should hopefully only be needed for rape or incest. But it's not that simple, and the choice needs to be there. Lives get ruined, parents and children, and it's a tough call to make, one I hope to never have to.

 

[Nzoric]

How come your dick is in a twist and Kate who is actually a woman is having a mature conversation?

Because I'm a male it can't be a sensitive issue for me? And still, 1% isn't the same as 0.1%, which is what I reacted to.

 

[AndreaCristiano]

Furthermore I think the far right - sorry AC that's what you look like to me - have a very twisted outlook on the "pro-choice" camp. No one is advocating abortion as a way of birth control, it's just advocating the right to chose if you somehow become pregnant. I have a few friends who went though abortions, even though we are all very pro-choice no parties were held and their lives still haven't recovered 3 years after. Like it isn't punishment enough what they go through when they make that decision, they have absolute tossers like AC picketing with idiotic signs in front of their clinics when they go to have the procedure done. Way to kick someone in the face while they're down, I really hope it makes them all feel better about their own miserable existences.

Ps yes some are and ps advocation means nothing when that's the way it's used. You seem like such a bleeding heart

 

[AndreaCristiano]

Because I'm a male it can't be a sensitive issue for me? And still, 1% isn't the same as 0.1%, which is what I reacted to.

Put that into perspective 1% of over 60 million! That means 59+million was just birth control man!

 

[Maddy]

A Party in Denmark that was started [mostly] due to the implementation of Free Abortion in 1973 received 0,8% of the votes during the 2011 election.

Sometimes I get sad when I see that Free Abortion is still a serious subject in America.

Btw. The tax payers are paying for the abortions

 

[Nzoric]

Ps yes some are and ps advocation means nothing when that's the way it's used. You seem like such a bleeding heart

Whoever is having a party to celebrate an adoption must be clinically insane and therefore should not be taken seriously. Who uses it? Please? Show me a study indicating that a serious number of females think of abortion as a just as easy, just as fast way of contraception as condoms are. Such a bleeding heart? I might be, you seem like you are totally out of touch with reality, on this issue amongst many others.

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Put that into perspective 1% of over 60 million! That means 59+million was just birth control man!

Don't categorize the use of condoms and the use of abortion in the same box. It's just idiotic and won't bring out a serious reply from me.

 

[Maddy]

Put that into perspective 1% of over 60 million! That means 59+million was just birth control man!

What an ignorant statement. You baffle me. Someone talking so much of about the Love of God. Yet is so narrow-minded and even hateful. Abortion, Obama not being american and so on.

You should talk to some of the Priest in The Church of Denmark. They could tell you something about charity.

 

[Enron]

What an ignorant statement. You baffle me. Someone talking so much of about the Love of God. Yet is so narrow-minded and even hateful. Abortion, Obama not being american and so on.

You should talk to some of the Priest in The Church of Denmark. They could tell you something about charity.

Oh please. He's spot on. God said the meek shall inherit the EARTH, not taxpayer money and freedom to kill babies just because life is "too hard".

 

[Nzoric]

What an ignorant statement. You baffle me. Someone talking so much of about the Love of God. Yet is so narrow-minded and even hateful. Abortion, Obama not being american and so on.

You should talk to some of the Priest in The Church of Denmark. They could tell you something about charity.

"Lutherans aren't real Christians, far too much effort is devoted to tackling real life problems and being moderate, rather than weighing every moral opinion against the counterweight of the Bible" - Upcoming AC response.

 

[AndreaCristiano]

Whoever is having a party to celebrate an adoption must be clinically insane and therefore should not be taken seriously. Who uses it? Please? Show me a study indicating that a serious number of females think of abortion as a just as easy, just as fast way of contraception as condoms are. Such a bleeding heart? I might be, you seem like you are totally out of touch with reality, on this issue amongst many others.

---------- Post added 07.09.2012 at 00:23 ----------



Don't categorize the use of condoms and the use of abortion in the same box. It's just idiotic and won't bring out a serious reply from me.

Ok simple math genius. If 1% of 60+ is for rape or incest, the remainder are used as a method Of birth control so how is that not in the same box? If a woman used birth control or men used condoms those other abortions wouldn't be necessary. Shit even Kate said as much

 

[Kate]

And I'll add that I would rather women have abortions than have babies for money like they do in England or Canada right now.

 

[AndreaCristiano]

What an ignorant statement. You baffle me. Someone talking so much of about the Love of God. Yet is so narrow-minded and even hateful. Abortion, Obama not being american and so on.

You should talk to some of the Priest in The Church of Denmark. They could tell you something about charity.

So because I'm fighting for an innocent life that has no defender instead of a woman who can make other choices hateful?

 

[Nzoric]

Ok simple math genius. If 1% of 60+ is for rape or incest, the remainder are used as a method Of birth control so how is that not in the same box? If a woman used birth control or men used condoms those other abortions wouldn't be necessary. Shit even Kate said as much

Because it's not as easy. You make it seem like aborting is something you just do in your lunch break, then get back to work afterwards. No one would like to end up in the situation they are, but if you really want to get into this, here we go: Have you considered that slacking your rigid stance towards healthcare sponsored contraceptives could eventually lead to further abortions? Isn't that what it's all about, fewer women getting pregnant when they really don't want to? It seems like you enjoy the way things are right now because you can make a fuss about both things. Make contraceptives free --> put money into educating the youth in poor areas --> decrease unwanted pregnancies --> fewer ungodly abortions.

It seems like you just enjoy this too much as a pathos loaded political issue and that you're not willing to give it up. What is will it be?

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So because I'm fighting for an innocent life that has no defender instead of a woman who can make other choices hateful?

Yeah fuck the female, she's a dirty godhating commiewhore and she threw away her last chance of ever receiving pity and sympathy the second she had that 5th vodka and did something stupid.

 

[AndreaCristiano]

Because it's not as easy. You make it seem like aborting is something you just do in your lunch break, then get back to work afterwards. No one would like to end up in the situation they are, but if you really want to get into this, here we go: Have you considered that slacking your rigid stance towards healthcare sponsored contraceptives could eventually lead to further abortions? Isn't that what it's all about, fewer women getting pregnant when they really don't want to? It seems like you enjoy the way things are right now because you can make a fuss about both things. Make contraceptives free --> put money into educating the youth in poor areas --> decrease unwanted pregnancies --> fewer ungodly abortions.

It seems like you just enjoy this too much as a pathos loaded political issue and that you're not willing to give it up. What is will it be?

No I don't believe it's that way but if it is as difficult as you make it why in all that is holy would a woman not take more precautions?