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kappa96

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Jun 20, 2018
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As long as it's a white person I'll be OK with it. If not I'll have to take up arms and join the war.
Have fun . I know i will.
Although i don't think you have it in you. I think you are going to be in the first plane out of there like all privileged people do.
1 way ticket next to your favorite spineless politican.
 

icemaη

Rab's Husband - The Regista
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Aug 27, 2008
36,373
The frequency and the age of suspects is a serious concern though.

I remember reading years ago how the UK struggled with stabbings and in recent years it became a thing in The Netherlands and Germany aswel.
It hasn't really gone up (trends slightly down in the past couple of years) in London. Compared to other major cities in the world, London is probably low when it comes to crime rates. It is also one of the most surveilled I think.
Young offenders has always been an issue, at least for a decade and half if not more. The first time I visited the UK almost two decades ago, there was a story of two 13 or 14 year olds beating a man to death in the park. Been petrified of teenagers since lol.
 

Boksic

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May 11, 2005
14,336
They are overworked and underpaid. In my brief time here it's evident that there is a need for more healthcare workers, and there are not enough qualified folks in the country. Repeatedly gutting the NHS will do that I suppose.
I know this is a common narrative but are they?

I know a few NHS doctors and they are paid extremely well and one in particular gets lots of time off. This is purely my experience but I'd be surprised if it's was drastically different across the country.

I think the whole system is a mess and could be reworked. You have senior doctors who could do more day to day/hands on work and take the pressure off newly qualified doctors.
 

JuveJay

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Mar 6, 2007
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The frequency and the age of suspects is a serious concern though.

I remember reading years ago how the UK struggled with stabbings and in recent years it became a thing in The Netherlands and Germany aswel.
County lines drug gangs have bumped the numbers up a lot locally for me but also all over the country. I've spoken about this before though so not going to go over it too much, but it's no more related to recent events than honour killings or domestic violence.

FWIW I think Sadiq Khan is a useless clown, but I don't live in London, so I could be underestimating just how useless he is.
 

JuveJay

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Mar 6, 2007
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Have fun . I know i will.
Although i don't think you have it in you. I think you are going to be in the first plane out of there like all privileged people do.
1 way ticket next to your favorite spineless politican.
Back to reality. I worry about this as much as I do a zombie apocalypse or being abducted by aliens.
 

Osman

Koul Khara!
Aug 30, 2002
61,511
Thanks for insider info, I'm writing this all down now.

What country are you from? I'm presuming it's like the Elysian fields.

He is Romanian I think. His profile says in Craiova.


Something mildly amusing about a Romanian getting off scouring the internet for London knife attacks and proclaiming the end is nigh, the war is coming, like he is cos playing as a homeless street urchin.
 

icemaη

Rab's Husband - The Regista
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Aug 27, 2008
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I know this is a common narrative but are they?

I know a few NHS doctors and they are paid extremely well and one in particular gets lots of time off. This is purely my experience but I'd be surprised if it's was drastically different across the country.

I think the whole system is a mess and could be reworked. You have senior doctors who could do more day to day/hands on work and take the pressure off newly qualified doctors.
I do think they are underpaid for what they offer, the amount of time they have to study, get experience etc. They are paid more than the average joe, but when you compare to what a doctor makes compared to others in the US, Canada or even Australia, UK is far lower imo.
 

kappa96

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Jun 20, 2018
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He is Romanian I think. His profile says in Craiova.
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Something mildly amusing about a Romanian getting off scouring the internet for London knife attacks and proclaiming the end is nigh, the war is coming, like he is cos playing as a homeless street urchin.
Stop projecting bro . I don't get off on it . I just like to talk theories .
It's almost as funny as a Swede immigrant interjecting in a discussion between a British and a Romanian.
You think i actually care about what happens to the UK?
The end is nigh for who? What war is coming? In my case not anytime soon.
Civil War or fascism is coming for the UK, sometime in the future and I'm here with my popcorn.
Romania is 2000 km away. I doubt I am going to loose sleep over something as trivial as this anytime soon.
 

Osman

Koul Khara!
Aug 30, 2002
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You don't get off on it, or trolling, but you are a rational grown adult who is seriously predicting there will be a civil war in UK, because you sit around at home sifting knife crimes and immigration issues in UK in I assume alt right social media? And that's realistic to you?


Do you remember the last time UK had a civil war? The last time any EU or western European nation had a civil war?
 

kappa96

Senior Member
Jun 20, 2018
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You don't get off on it, or trolling, but you are a rational grown adult who is seriously predicting there will be a civil war in UK, because you sit around at home sifting knife crimes and immigration issues in UK in I assume alt right social media? And that's realistic to you?

Do you remember the last time UK had a civil war? The last time any EU or western European nation had a civil war?
The last civil war in Europe out of the top of my head it's probably the one in germany between the kaiser loyalists and hitler's nationals between somewhere between 1920 and 1925. If not the tarists vs the bolshevick's in russia between 1917 - 1919 (I'm sure google is gonna correct me but i'm not bothering with that)
What makes me alt right?
It's a valid theory, no?
When was the last time the UK, the EU, or any Western European nation had this kind of levels of unkept ,unprecedented immigration by people who don't share the same values as the locals?
 

AFL_ITALIA

MAGISTERIAL
Jun 17, 2011
31,827
I'm here with my popcorn.
"Some people just want to see the world burn"
But not before i get my popcorn
.:numnum:

PS . good choice of a poster . My third best movie of all time.
(It is a good poster)

Have fun . I know i will.
Although i don't think you have it in you. I think you are going to be in the first plane out of there like all privileged people do.
1 way ticket next to your favorite spineless politican.
______________________________________
Stop projecting bro . I don't get off on it .
:shifty:
 

PhRoZeN

Livin with Mediocre
Mar 29, 2006
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Who let kappa out of the asylum?

The whole healthcare system is so broken in the UK that even homicidal schizophrenics are allowed back on the streets. Doctors just wanna see you fuck off rather than help you.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c990rmvy4ero

I'm strongly considering paying for private insurance.
Lol I've got private medical insurance and I'm paying out for shit. They use the same NHS doctors, and you just get seen early, but still gotta queue like the rest of them for scans.
 

Mokku

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Apr 17, 2019
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My wife works in the NHS at a mental health unit and I work in science with many NHS doctors.

1. NHS staff do generally get paid a lot less than in private health care, so much so that there is a shortage of staff doing the skilled jobs such as psychology and clinical psychology
2. There is a phenomenal amount of waste because you get managers who piss away their funding and they don't care since they hold permanent positions (which is a waste of money in itself), lots of underfunded services around the UK
3. People underestimate the cost of providing medical services for "free", the maintenance on medical equipment is a lot, services for mentally ill is a lot and that includes kids that are abused, eating disorders, suicidal people, etc.
4. The waiting list where my wife is to receive treatment is a year, if you're a kid being bullied it's a lifetime of struggle unless you've made an attempt on your life to get moved up the queue. It's very sad really and there is a pressure to discharge people. Also, people with mental health issues lie like the killer, but you can't spend millions to monitor this one guy all of his life because he might stab someone, it's not feasible.
5. Doctors who get paid a lot have done many years of hard graft, a junior doctor gets nothing but for their career will have to work stupid hours to climb that ladder. Also, don't discount the mental stress and pressure to never make a mistake or get a complaint because it can end your career in a heartbeat.
6. People do take the piss out of the system. Getting drunk and ending up in A&E because of stupid stuff costs a lot, and they won't be sent home unless they're fixed ie, they break a bone and have x ray, get a cast, get medication, follow up, physiotherapy, etc. Others will demand a mental health diagnosis so they get financial benefits or that they're shitty parents who blame their child's abnormal behaviour on autism or something, rather then them having to raise their kids properly.

More complex than people believe and no easy solution.
 

JuveJay

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kappa96

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JuveJay

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Could be. It doesn't say nothing about his nationality in the article.
He also represents unchecked migration .
It's just that by taking him in he because your problem and not our problem so I'm grateful for that.
Out of interest, you know you said yesterday that the problem of immigration hadn't hit your country, or where you live at least - I'm sure there are reasons for that, but as so many Romanian nationals leave the country to find work in the UK and other countries, who fills in the gaps in the domestic workforce, in the public sector, etc?
 

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