UEFA Team of the Year 2012 (19 Viewers)

Apr 15, 2006
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What bias? Prandelli and Vucinic voting for buffon/pirlo is perfectly understandable because no one would shake their head in disbelief if they finished in the top 3..
Buffon did exactly what the Algerian captain did. Yet you criticised him but ignored Buffons vote. You're biased towards Juventus players, and I'm just pointing it out.
 

Osman

Koul Khara!
Aug 30, 2002
61,488
Don't be sheepish hypocrites(just as bad those you laugh at) , Buffons vote is fine since the top 3 includes Messi and Cristiano with Pirlo, but Prandellis and especially Vucinics are biased and as bad as the rest since it leaves out both Messi and Cristiano (and I mean their partisan votes besides Pirlo).


Buffon has a claim to be considered for gk position in best eleven, but definitely blinkered if you think he is a pick for top 3.
 
Apr 15, 2006
56,640
Don't be sheepish hypocrites(just as bad those you laugh at) , Buffons vote is fine since the top 3 includes Messi and Cristiano with Pirlo, but Prandellis and especially Vucinics are biased and as bad as the rest since it leaves out both Messi and Cristiano (and I mean their partisan votes besides Pirlo).


Buffon has a claim to be considered for gk position in best eleven, but definitely blinkered if you think he is a pick for top 3.
I don't have a problem with Buffon voting Pirlo. I have a problem with Rabbit ignoring Buffon when criticising players and coaches who voted a player of their nationality as the best player. His unbiased criticism seems legit!
 

Rabbit

Secure The Bag
Jun 8, 2010
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I don't have a problem with Buffon voting Pirlo. I have a problem with Rabbit ignoring Buffon when criticising players and coaches who voted a player of their nationality as the best player. His unbiased criticism seems legit!
Lol I really don't understand how you're not getting the point. If Ozil or Benzema had a year as good as Pirlo's or Buffon's 2012 then I'd understand why they selected them in their top 3. However, Ozil and Benzema did not have the best 2012 yet they were selected because of strong, ridiculous bias from various mates. Pirlo and Buffon have a claim to be top 3, Ozil and especially Benzema would be lucky to make top 10.
 

Osman

Koul Khara!
Aug 30, 2002
61,488
You are as ridicolous when you overhype Buffons season while downplaying Benzemas and Özils. Neither of them should be in a top 3 at all.
 

Osman

Koul Khara!
Aug 30, 2002
61,488
Wait...dont!..


...forget to uncock it first.


Instead of arguing about best eleven, try to roughly make your top ten for ze year instead, mine is more or less:

1. Messi
2. CR
3. Pirlo
4. Falcao
5. Iniesta
6. Ibrahimovic
7. van Persie
8. Xavi
9. Cavani
10. Vidal



Yeah sue me, I dont rate defenders of 2012 that highly (not to mention midfielders/attackers in general are more tasking positions to excell in.
 

Osman

Koul Khara!
Aug 30, 2002
61,488
For being frigging Messi, indiviually being the best there is (and will be so at the top few of all time at career end) seriously there is no point whatsoever to even seriously question his supremacy, its beyond belief and just unheard of stubborness to not acknowledge it by now.

Whats your top 10 alex? The top 2 is a given, but its interesting to see the rest of 7.
 

JuveJay

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Moderator
Mar 6, 2007
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I don't have a problem with Buffon voting Pirlo. I have a problem with Rabbit ignoring Buffon when criticising players and coaches who voted a player of their nationality as the best player. His unbiased criticism seems legit!
Pirlo has a legitimate claim to a top three spot, no German does.
 

Osman

Koul Khara!
Aug 30, 2002
61,488
Thats true. Germans have little claim on team of the year, but non of them where top 10 worthy, let alone anywhere near top 3.
 

Alex-444

Senior Member
Sep 5, 2005
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For being frigging Messi, indiviually being the best there is (and will be so at the top few of all time at career end) seriously there is no point whatsoever to even seriously question his supremacy, its beyond belief and just unheard of stubborness to not acknowledge it by now.

Whats your top 10 alex? The top 2 is a given, but its interesting to see the rest of 7.
I hate the commercialization of football
I would a ball Pirlo and Buffon in 2006

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or to a prize hated all ibra
 

Osman

Koul Khara!
Aug 30, 2002
61,488
Football is commercialized more and more, and Messi is extremely easy to market, but dude is INSANE, as simple as that, in an individual based award, ofcourse the mofo will get it.


You would given it to Buffoon in 2006? Really, IMO it was a stronger case for Pirlo, he was my true MVP for Italy that WC.
 

Klin

نحن الروبوتات
May 27, 2009
61,692
So you believe lazio is the secondbest team in italy, and athletico is better then real madrid, just cause thats the case on the current ranking ?

No, we rank them based on quality, wich is probably how it wil look at the end of the season

Italy

Juventus
Inter

Napoli
fiorentina
milan
roma
udinese
catania
chievo
atalanta

spain

barcelona
real madrid

athletico
valencia
malaga
betis
levante
getafe
sevilla
sociedat

england

man utd
man city

chelsea
spurs
arsenal
everton
liverpool
stoke
fullham
swansea


athletico could beat chelsea, but epl teams win all the other games

serie a looks weak in comparison
Athletico could win against any EPL bar United, and you still think that the EPL is the same as it was 3/4 years ago.

The only interesting thing I've heard out of this tiresome topic (except I disagree about team titles being necessary criteria):

Legend.
 

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