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Orgut

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Dec 31, 2002
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Look at YOUR posts above! What does the highlighted sentence mean? In your statement there Iaquinta>Benzema. You even said you don't want Benzema here, so please answer my initial question.

Dzeko better than Benzema? It boils down to opinion, it's not a fact. If Dzeko wasn't on form you wouldn't go on about it.

How exactly is Benzema overrated? I want an answer to that one, please.
Actually that post doesnt mean Iaq is better it means Benz is not better which means they could be equal

As for that post it was obviously an exeggeration by my part and if you didn`t understand it then you should look to the post I made for Byrone which said it
ofcourse Benz is better than Iaquinta but I don`t think Benz is as good as our forum makes him to be

Dzeko is top 3 strikers in the world and has a goalscoring record that shows it
Benz is good nothing more IMO but even if I underate him I can`t underate him that much he is no Dzeko

as for Benz is overated he did show good form for Lyon but just them at Real he did nothing + he is a good SS and a good scorrer but he isn`t great at eigther of them and that makes him overated IMO
 

Hist

Founder of Hism
Jan 18, 2009
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I'd definitely take torres over Dzeko anyday.

30 Mill is too much for Dzeko and just enough for Torres.

Benzema, max 15 mill for this flop. Very overrated indeed.

Dzeko is borderline world class, torres is worlclass, Benzema is above average.
 

Alen

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Apr 2, 2007
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Running over this Dzeko deal.

It seems it's 10 Million outstanding from the Diego move.

20 Million in Cash + Sissoko.

So I value that around 40 Million.

Lets hope he does not flop :p
We'll get him cheaper. I don't see another transfer market explosion anytime soon. Last summer the prices went sky high like they did in 2001, but this summer we saw changes. Teams spent less and generally players moved for lower prices compared to 2009.
30M or around it will be Dzeko's price in the summer.

Dunno if Sissoko will be part of any deal, but if he is then Dzeko will cost us around 5m eur+Diego+Sissoko.
Still pretty expensive.
 

Albo

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Apr 13, 2009
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I would take Dzeko over Torres .

Torres is injury prone , and i dont like him .

But i dont wana give MOMO for Dzeko :-@

Diego + 20 mln E , its enough !
 

awit

Senior Member
Jan 10, 2010
2,571
How can anyone say they would take Torres over Dzeko at this point? Torres plays like 5 matches a season and he isn't even match fit in those.
 

Showdown25

Dag-nabit!
Apr 17, 2009
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Torres is WC no doubt. But I can't even remember the last time he really played to his ability.

Dzeko seems more consistent and a lot less injury prone. I'd take Dzeko hands down.

This is Juventus after all, we're pretty good at creating superstars.
 

Hist

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Jan 18, 2009
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Torres is in a whole different level than Dzeko. Fitness problem can be solved.. it is just a phase in his carreer. Dzeko is unproven and I wouldnt take risks with 30 millions.

You have 30 mill to spend and you choose to splash it on Dzeko rather than Torres?
 

zizoufan

Z.Z T h e M a s t e r
May 25, 2004
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Juventus, Dzeko ad un passo

Dopo un lungo inseguimento iniziato questa estate sembra concludersi la trattativa Juventus-Dzeko, col centravanti bosniaco pronto a trasferirsi a Torino il prossimo giugno. Secondo indiscrezioni il club torinese e il Wolfsburg avrebbero trovato l'accordo economico per una cifra complessiva di circa 30 milioni, di cui 10 cash a cui aggiungere il cartellino di Sissoko e il pagamento della seconda rata da parte dei tedeschi per il cartellino di Diego. La Juve avrebbe così superato la concorrenza del Bayern Monaco.
 

Byrone

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Dec 19, 2005
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He currently makes 8M a year at Real. How much of a pay cut would you think he will be willing to take to join us? Our highest paid player, Buffon, makes 5M a year. Seeing that Marotta is now focused on paying attention on our wage budget, Benzema would at least have to accept a wage cut of half what he's currently earning at Real. He obviously has to take a wage cut to join most of the other clubs. How much of a wage cut would he be willing to take is more appropriate question in our case.
Agreed. Benzema is young & im pretty sure he's not short sighted. He will take a pay cut & once he gets back into his normal game, he can obviously look for a pay rise. It's not like he's 32, he still has ambition & the urge to win major trophies.

He'll take a wage cut between 2/4m.

Who cares about saving a non EU spot when Dzeko is the best taker for it anyway.
Exactly.:tup:

Benzema would be a gamble because he's lazy and hasn't got regular playing time for a while now. If it's only one of them, then definitely Dzeko.
How is he lazy? Are you part of the medical staff at Real? It's kinda hard to get your momentum going when you're played out of position & not given a extended run of time.

People get bent out of shape over Benzema's wages, when in fact Dzeko will command as much, perhaps more, money as Benzema.
Forget those 8m. It's an unrealistic figure and only works for a club like Real Madrid. Only Man City could offer the same or more but I doubt he would go there. Dzeko earns around 3.5m in Wolfsburg and is probably the hottest striker on the market, his demands will be anywhere between 4-6m. Benzema would join Juventus for anything between 4-6m, no doubt.

Dzeko can choose where he wants to go, don't think he'll be modest with wages folks. I wouldn't be surprised if earns more than Buffon.
:tup:tup:

Actually that post doesnt mean Iaq is better it means Benz is not better which means they could be equal

As for that post it was obviously an exeggeration by my part and if you didn`t understand it then you should look to the post I made for Byrone which said it
ofcourse Benz is better than Iaquinta but I don`t think Benz is as good as our forum makes him to be

Dzeko is top 3 strikers in the world and has a goalscoring record that shows it
Benz is good nothing more IMO but even if I underate him I can`t underate him that much he is no Dzeko

as for Benz is overated he did show good form for Lyon but just them at Real he did nothing + he is a good SS and a good scorrer but he isn`t great at eigther of them and that makes him overated IMO
Stop trying to back track. Saying you rate Iaquinta more than you rate Benzema means Iaquinta>Benzema in your opinion. If thats not the case, im going back to high school & im gonna sue my english teacher for terrible english.

I am Byrone, dude.:sergio:

How long has Dzeko been performing? It all boils down to his current form. Do you really think Dzeko will peform like that for ever? He will have a dip in form & then some members like yourself will label him a waste.

So if a player does nothing at Real that means they're overrated? Sneijder, Robben? Given the right environment, team & people around him, he'll certainly turn his fortunes around.

Your last sentence is pure gold buddy, you make the WC trophy seem like a bronze trophy.


I'd definitely take torres over Dzeko anyday.

30 Mill is too much for Dzeko and just enough for Torres.

Benzema, max 15 mill for this flop. Very overrated indeed.

Dzeko is borderline world class, torres is worlclass, Benzema is above average.
:howler:
 

Hist

Founder of Hism
Jan 18, 2009
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Actually that post doesnt mean Iaq is better it means Benz is not better which means they could be equal

As for that post it was obviously an exeggeration by my part and if you didn`t understand it then you should look to the post I made for Byrone which said it
ofcourse Benz is better than Iaquinta but I don`t think Benz is as good as our forum makes him to be

Dzeko is top 3 strikers in the world and has a goalscoring record that shows it
Benz is good nothing more IMO but even if I underate him I can`t underate him that much he is no Dzeko

as for Benz is overated he did show good form for Lyon but just them at Real he did nothing + he is a good SS and a good scorrer but he isn`t great at eigther of them and that makes him overated IMO
I agree. I'd rather have adebayor
 

Showdown25

Dag-nabit!
Apr 17, 2009
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Torres is in a whole different level than Dzeko. Fitness problem can be solved.. it is just a phase in his carreer. Dzeko is unproven and I wouldnt take risks with 30 millions.

You have 30 mill to spend and you choose to splash it on Dzeko rather than Torres?
Yes I would. The only truely top season Torres has had in his entire career was his first season with Liverpool. We've never seen him replicate that, or even come close. He goes down with injuries far too often for my liking.

So yes I would take the Bosnian over Torres any day of the week and twice on Sunday.
 

awit

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Jan 10, 2010
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If Torres can stay mostly fit until the end of the season and has a good season then fine. If not, it's not looking good for him.

How is he lazy? Are you part of the medical staff at Real? It's kinda hard to get your momentum going when you're played out of position & not given a extended run of time.
What does their medical staff have to do with anything? More than one coach have complained about his unwillingness to train and bad attitude.
 
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