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Alen

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Apr 2, 2007
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I read they want Giovinco and Palladino + cashh. If that's doable, it sounds like a perfect scenario to me.
That might be complicated if Parma decide to buy 50% of Giovinco's contract. It already is complicated because Juve owns only 50% of Palladino's contract.
 

ALC

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Oct 28, 2010
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Hah, you don't even know how much cash they're looking for.

I don't think Juventus will chase any of the Udinese players.
30 altogether...dropped to 15 with those two. I don't see why we woldn't chase Sanchez though.

Saw it on goal.com so don't take it as fact.
 

Alen

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Apr 2, 2007
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So Alen. Explain how we are paying 50 m eur for Pepe, Aqua and Quagz this season?
Well, right now they are considered as loans so their transfer fees aren't yet in the transfer budgets.
In order to buy all 4 of them we will need to pay 50m eur. Those are 50m eur transfers. Indeed, those will be paid in three installments, but these purchases will be in this summer's budget.
We can't count it only as one installment this summer (or 16.666m eur) because that way you also need to add one installment for Martinez, probably for Bonucci and Krasic too etc.

If we buy them then we're buying players for 50 million euro (Aquilani 16m+Pepe 7.5m+Matri 15.5m+Quagliarella 10.5 or 11m).
 

Fake Melo

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Sep 3, 2010
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Well, right now they are considered as loans so their transfer fees aren't yet in the transfer budgets.
In order to buy all 4 of them we will need to pay 50m eur. Those are 50m eur transfers. Indeed, those will be paid in three installments, but these purchases will be in this summer's budget.
We can't count it only as one installment this summer (or 16.666m eur) because that way you also need to add one installment for Martinez, probably for Bonucci and Krasic too etc.

If we buy them then we're buying players for 50 million euro (Aquilani 16m+Pepe 7.5m+Matri 15.5m+Quagliarella 10.5 or 11m).
But truth be told, we are only paying 5 m for Quagz, 6 for Aquilani and about 3-4 for Pepe this summer, correct?
How is the 50 millions going out of the summer budget then?
 
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Mark

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    Isla. :touched:

    anyway, Mancio sent Lombardo to raid Udinese. Sanchez, Inler(Napoli?) and Asamoah linked to Man Shitty.
     

    Zlatan

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    Jun 9, 2003
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    But truth be told, we are only paying 5 m for Quagz, 6 for Aquilani and about 3-4 for Pepe this summer, correct?
    How is the 50 millions going out of the summer budget then?

    It's not the general theory of relativity ffs.

    You have 50 mil € to spend on players. You arrange transfers of 5 players for 10 mil € each, paid in 3 installments. So that would be 16,6 mil € per season. However, you count that you spent the whole budget and pay the installments from that budget in the future.

    Next season you calculate a new budget from which you will sing a few players in installments, and you do the same. Otherwise you would have to calculate the previous years transfers in this years transfer budget if you counted installments only.


    If it were did that way (as you suggest): let's say we have 50 mil € next year, we pay the first installments for Matri, Quag, Aquilani, pepe, for, lets say, 15 mil €. That would mean that there are 35 mil e left, right? Wrong. Because if you looked at it taht way you would also need to deduct the installments for Diego, Melo, rkasić, Bonucci, etc from the transfer budget and again you'd end at 0.
     
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    It's not the general theory of relativity ffs.

    You have 50 mil € to spend on players. You arrange transfers of 5 players for 10 mil € each, paid in 3 installments. So that would be 16,6 mil € per season. However, you count that you spent the whole budget and pay the installments from that budget in the future.

    Next season you calculate a new budget from which you will sing a few players in installments, and you do the same. Otherwise you would have to calculate the previous years transfers in this years transfer budget if you counted installments only.


    If it were did that way (as you suggest): let's say we have 50 mil € next year, we pay the first installments for Matri, Quag, Aquilani, pepe, for, lets say, 15 mil €. That would mean that there are 35 mil e left, right? Wrong. Because if you looked at it taht way you would also need to deduct the installments for Diego, Melo, rkasić, Bonucci, etc from the transfer budget and again you'd end at 0.
    You just made too much sense for brains to understand.
    It is rocket science to him.
     

    Fake Melo

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    Sep 3, 2010
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    It's not the general theory of relativity ffs.

    You have 50 mil € to spend on players. You arrange transfers of 5 players for 10 mil € each, paid in 3 installments. So that would be 16,6 mil € per season. However, you count that you spent the whole budget and pay the installments from that budget in the future.

    Next season you calculate a new budget from which you will sing a few players in installments, and you do the same. Otherwise you would have to calculate the previous years transfers in this years transfer budget if you counted installments only.


    If it were did that way (as you suggest): let's say we have 50 mil € next year, we pay the first installments for Matri, Quag, Aquilani, pepe, for, lets say, 15 mil €. That would mean that there are 35 mil e left, right? Wrong. Because if you looked at it taht way you would also need to deduct the installments for Diego, Melo, rkasić, Bonucci, etc from the transfer budget and again you'd end at 0.
    I still don't get it :sergio:
    Whats the point of paying in installments if you are holding the money up without paying it?
     

    Zlatan

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    Jun 9, 2003
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    I still don't get it :sergio:
    Whats the point of paying in installments if you are holding the money up without paying it?
    Accounting purposes, you have an opportunity to get some cashflow (same reason why you get a loan perhaps) and probnably a bunch of other reasons that somebody with an economic background will explain.

    I'll try my explanation again.

    If it were done your way:

    Transfer budget 50 mil € - Matri installment 6 mil € - Pepe installment 3 mil € - Quag installment 4 mil € - Aqualiani installment 5 mil € = 32 mil €

    But then because you're counting all the installments, you have to count the second or third installments for players we still havent paid from previous seasons, so you have - Diego installment 8 mil € - Melo installment 8 mil € - Bonucci installment 5 mil € - Krasić installment 5 mil €, etc. In the end you get the same result, almost 0 transfer budget left.

    With that logic, you'd also have to deduct Aqualianis, Matris, Quaqs, pepes second installment from next seasons transfer budget, and third installments from the season after etc.


    The way it's actually done is that you calculate like you've paid it at once so you dont need to calculate previous or future installments in the transfer budget. You only calculate the players you buy that transfer window. So you calculate that you spent 50 mil e for Quaq, matri, Aquilani and you wont have to deduct their installments from the next transfer budget.
     
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