Also depends on the formation I guess. I'd rather we spend the Tiago money on defense and give someone like Ekdal a chance, and get some wide midfielders with Poulsen money.
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Ok, here's a question from me.
This may sound weird, first of all I want to say that I'm not Italian hater even if it might look like.
For those who want Pazzini or Gilardino, or those who say Matri is good, or that Acquafresca is good -
Have you really thought of other league strikers, like in La Liga or EPL? Let's just look at top teams. Am I wrong or they don't have any striker of that type in their team? One might wonder why Italy is falling apart. Do they have anyone like Pazzini or Gilardino? They do score, but I mean strikers that are limited, strikers that can't do anything one-on-one? Maybe it's just me but I can't think of any.
And also, Gilardino is doing good in Viola so they might sell him. What are the odds he'll go aboard? I'd say pretty low. I think only Italian clubs will want him (of course we'll be in pole position). Acquafresca, he'll always stay in Italy.
We need dynamic strikers, somebody who can score out of nothing. I don't think any of the above mentioned have scored from a long rage shot. Seriously, how can that be a good striker? Being a box striker is too old for nowadays football, just as Italy system from the mid 90s that they keep playing. Iaquinta lacks something to be great, but he was linked with Chelsea and some other clubs. Coincidence, maybe.
And I'm saying all this as a Juve fan, not some average club (we might look like one now but that's not it), when I say we don't need those. Pazzini is overrated when you look at that poll and see how many people want him and I DO know that many of them already said they'd be willing to give more than 15mln euros for him. So try to explain me that.
This may sound weird, first of all I want to say that I'm not Italian hater even if it might look like.
For those who want Pazzini or Gilardino, or those who say Matri is good, or that Acquafresca is good -
Have you really thought of other league strikers, like in La Liga or EPL? Let's just look at top teams. Am I wrong or they don't have any striker of that type in their team? One might wonder why Italy is falling apart. Do they have anyone like Pazzini or Gilardino? They do score, but I mean strikers that are limited, strikers that can't do anything one-on-one? Maybe it's just me but I can't think of any.
And also, Gilardino is doing good in Viola so they might sell him. What are the odds he'll go aboard? I'd say pretty low. I think only Italian clubs will want him (of course we'll be in pole position). Acquafresca, he'll always stay in Italy.
We need dynamic strikers, somebody who can score out of nothing. I don't think any of the above mentioned have scored from a long rage shot. Seriously, how can that be a good striker? Being a box striker is too old for nowadays football, just as Italy system from the mid 90s that they keep playing. Iaquinta lacks something to be great, but he was linked with Chelsea and some other clubs. Coincidence, maybe.
And I'm saying all this as a Juve fan, not some average club (we might look like one now but that's not it), when I say we don't need those. Pazzini is overrated when you look at that poll and see how many people want him and I DO know that many of them already said they'd be willing to give more than 15mln euros for him. So try to explain me that.
Actually I don't have much more to add. I never noticed those Pazzini to Chelsea rumors. But we'll see if he'll go to England. I say chances are 3%.
Matri? Give me a break. He should be a starter for Sampdoria at best and that's it.
Borriello, Pazzini, Acquafresca would never make it aboard because they are limited. Only Italians will go after them. They will get stuck in the box and Italy will get raped against PL and La Liga teams.
Inter is first and doing good in Europe. They don't have any striker that's limited. But maybe because their coach is not Italian.
Matri? Give me a break. He should be a starter for Sampdoria at best and that's it.
Borriello, Pazzini, Acquafresca would never make it aboard because they are limited. Only Italians will go after them. They will get stuck in the box and Italy will get raped against PL and La Liga teams.
Inter is first and doing good in Europe. They don't have any striker that's limited. But maybe because their coach is not Italian.
have to agree with you.
Pazzini at best is either ambitious midtable/EL level league (or at best Roma level), not starting for a top team ( at most have Iaquinta squad role, better finisher then Yaki, while Yaki has other strenghts). Freshwater and Matri cant be mentionned, just decent younger players having semi-breakthroughts in small teams, nothing else to it.
Gilardino is DEFENITELY a quality goalscorer for me, and more then good enough for Juve, there are several top strikers who are above (hard to sign kinda players), and he is the kind of player who is just below that.
He is prolific and consistent enough box striker, and IMO tends to be bit underrated at times. He has 127 goals 309 in matches, still 27 and has more to go in terms of scoring more in Serie A, and going higher and higher up in the history books of goals scored.
Gilardino is DEFENITELY a quality goalscorer for me, and more then good enough for Juve, there are several top strikers who are above (hard to sign kinda players), and he is the kind of player who is just below that.
He is prolific and consistent enough box striker, and IMO tends to be bit underrated at times. He has 127 goals 309 in matches, still 27 and has more to go in terms of scoring more in Serie A, and going higher and higher up in the history books of goals scored.
I never said otherwise about Pazzini, I just think he is a decent/good goalscorer who is getting more prolific, but is still unproven, little esle to say about him.
I just think its weird to keep harping on about him being overrated or italian this or that, he really isnt.
And regarding Gila, you may not agree, but I would only have Milito over him in the strikers in Serie A (and thats just barely for me, plus Milito is 4 years older), and the overseas players better then him are are all 30-50m kinda players.
P.S Fun trivia, do you know Gila is still the assist leader in CL? (with Arshavin).
I just think its weird to keep harping on about him being overrated or italian this or that, he really isnt.
And regarding Gila, you may not agree, but I would only have Milito over him in the strikers in Serie A (and thats just barely for me, plus Milito is 4 years older), and the overseas players better then him are are all 30-50m kinda players.
P.S Fun trivia, do you know Gila is still the assist leader in CL? (with Arshavin).
Dude, what are you talking about...
Stop mentioning Italians here, I'm not hater and I'm not being biased. How can you say he's not overrated, weren't you following transfer section? When we talked about a possible striker do you know people called his name? Many of them? Did you check that poll? When his price was mentioned nobody said a thing about it, they didn't mind it. What else has to be said to call a player overrated?
Stop mentioning Italians here, I'm not hater and I'm not being biased. How can you say he's not overrated, weren't you following transfer section? When we talked about a possible striker do you know people called his name? Many of them? Did you check that poll? When his price was mentioned nobody said a thing about it, they didn't mind it. What else has to be said to call a player overrated?
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