The Wish List and General Discussion Thread (38 Viewers)
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I have to say, I fail to see the problem here. Trez will most likely be gone, which would leave us with Amauri / IQ / Immobile for 1 striker position.
If we were to play with 2 strikers, you have those 3 and Del Piero. Add to that we might well be buying a striker and maybe letting one go, or maybe not include Immobile yet, I don't see how squad depth is a problem. Atleast 2 players for a position is fine.
If we were to play with 2 strikers, you have those 3 and Del Piero. Add to that we might well be buying a striker and maybe letting one go, or maybe not include Immobile yet, I don't see how squad depth is a problem. Atleast 2 players for a position is fine.
Ken, if you fail to see Amauri as a problem then you will fail to see the overall problem. You speak of mediocrity yet he is the epitome of it. We need a new striker to bang in goals consistently. I mean an actual striker to do what he gets paid to do.
How do you know Immobile is ready for a dependent role in our first team. I guess if you are ok with an injury stricken IQ, a living drought of goals Amauri, a very young Immobile and an aging DP with trez leaving then of course you fail to see the problem. For one reason or another, I'm not sure why.
How do you know Immobile is ready for a dependent role in our first team. I guess if you are ok with an injury stricken IQ, a living drought of goals Amauri, a very young Immobile and an aging DP with trez leaving then of course you fail to see the problem. For one reason or another, I'm not sure why.
So according to you, we've had a depth problem for our striker position for years now? Since the strikers we have don't suffice for next year, when we might play with a single striker, have been filling the roles of both strikers the past years.
You sound like the single striker system would give us trouble up front all of a sudden, when as far as I'm aware, it would mean playing one less striker. Depth really isn't the problem here, far from it.
About the quality of Amauri & Co. : I know they're not world beater and I know you're about the biggest Amauri critic around, but we have these problems on so many positions, it's silly to focus on the striker position. I would love to have a new starting striker if the funds suffice, obviously, but you can't possibly insist on buying 2 strikers.
We don't even have a proper LB, RB, second CB, passing midfielder, wingers to play that 4-2-3-1, let alone have good backups, so really, the depth of our striker position is the least of our problems, don't you think?
I'm really not the one missing the point here.
You sound like the single striker system would give us trouble up front all of a sudden, when as far as I'm aware, it would mean playing one less striker. Depth really isn't the problem here, far from it.
About the quality of Amauri & Co. : I know they're not world beater and I know you're about the biggest Amauri critic around, but we have these problems on so many positions, it's silly to focus on the striker position. I would love to have a new starting striker if the funds suffice, obviously, but you can't possibly insist on buying 2 strikers.
We don't even have a proper LB, RB, second CB, passing midfielder, wingers to play that 4-2-3-1, let alone have good backups, so really, the depth of our striker position is the least of our problems, don't you think?
I'm really not the one missing the point here.
IQ
(Immobile, Trez*)
Gio Diego New1
(Iago**) (DP) (Camo*)
Machisio Melo
(Poulsen) (Momo)
Criscito Chiellini New2 Caceres
(PDC) (Legro) (Ariaudo) (New/young)
Buffon
(Pingsolio)
(Immobile, Trez*)
Gio Diego New1
(Iago**) (DP) (Camo*)
Machisio Melo
(Poulsen) (Momo)
Criscito Chiellini New2 Caceres
(PDC) (Legro) (Ariaudo) (New/young)
Buffon
(Pingsolio)
*We can keep Treq if he is ok with reduced role and salary decrease. Same to Camo.
**Don't know how he is. Maybe we have to buy additional left winger to.
Can sell: Amauri, Tiago, Molinaro, Manninger, Canna (just gone), Zebina, Grygera, Grosso.
Additional: sell Poulsen, bring back Ekdal.
In total: we need wing(s) and defense(!).
I think we need to accept Giovinco isn't going to make it at Juventus. I don't think Marchisio and Melo shouts championship winning mf and we don't need another season solely relying on Diego, who has played near enough every game even though he's been poor.
When I mentioned cheap options I mentioned international players like Gallas, Diarra and Van der Vaart. They are quality too and would walk into our team. We need at least one big signing too. An Aguero or something. Luis Fabiano is somebody else we could get for like 15-20 million.
When I mentioned cheap options I mentioned international players like Gallas, Diarra and Van der Vaart. They are quality too and would walk into our team. We need at least one big signing too. An Aguero or something. Luis Fabiano is somebody else we could get for like 15-20 million.
Next season I would feel confident seeing....
Buffon
Sagna / Rafinha - Gallas / other new signing - Chiellini - Criscito / Clichy
Diarra - Marchisio / Melo / new signing
Diego - Van det Vaart
Fabiano - Aguero
plus bring in youths and any solid bosmans whilst keeping the likes of Del Piero, Iaquinta, Camo, Legg, De Ceglie
Buffon
Sagna / Rafinha - Gallas / other new signing - Chiellini - Criscito / Clichy
Diarra - Marchisio / Melo / new signing
Diego - Van det Vaart
Fabiano - Aguero
plus bring in youths and any solid bosmans whilst keeping the likes of Del Piero, Iaquinta, Camo, Legg, De Ceglie
Quickly:
I don't see it as a depth problem as much as I do having a quality striker than scores consistently all season long. As the depth issue goes and from a numbers point of view we are ok. On a quality wise, no we are not. But you can't say that injuries this season hurt us and now our older strikers are another year older. Injuries are more frequent which is why I suggested a one striker system where we can buy one striker but absolutely not avoiding the rest of the teams weaknesses so I'm not sure why you suggested that (from my side of view).
Bottom line: we need somone that scores. Not depth. But we need to off load some dead weight up top. World beaters or not, this season we don't have one that was a league beater.
I will say more later.
I don't see it as a depth problem as much as I do having a quality striker than scores consistently all season long. As the depth issue goes and from a numbers point of view we are ok. On a quality wise, no we are not. But you can't say that injuries this season hurt us and now our older strikers are another year older. Injuries are more frequent which is why I suggested a one striker system where we can buy one striker but absolutely not avoiding the rest of the teams weaknesses so I'm not sure why you suggested that (from my side of view).
Bottom line: we need somone that scores. Not depth. But we need to off load some dead weight up top. World beaters or not, this season we don't have one that was a league beater.
I will say more later.
I get what you mean, I do. No need to elaborate further.
I have to say I missed that post where you said you didn't want to buy 2 strikers, as the post before that implied you did, and that's what I replied to, more or less.
I just felt that, since the people we have starting at other positions are A LOT worse than our strikers, it was strange you would address depth for the striker position.
I think we see eachother's points, as I would love to buy a new starting striker, but not if that means having to go into another season with some of the defenders we have starting for us now, as the strikers we're looking at are expensive.
I guess I see our strikers as bit less of a problem than you though, as when the team starts playing like a team, the strikers will be in better positions. I know how much you love this argument about Amauri & Co.
I just felt you were too focused on that CF position, missing that post aswell, that's why I mentioned the rest of the team as a bigger problem than the strikers. I pretty much agree on what you mean, though.
I have to say I missed that post where you said you didn't want to buy 2 strikers, as the post before that implied you did, and that's what I replied to, more or less.
I just felt that, since the people we have starting at other positions are A LOT worse than our strikers, it was strange you would address depth for the striker position.
I think we see eachother's points, as I would love to buy a new starting striker, but not if that means having to go into another season with some of the defenders we have starting for us now, as the strikers we're looking at are expensive.
I guess I see our strikers as bit less of a problem than you though, as when the team starts playing like a team, the strikers will be in better positions. I know how much you love this argument about Amauri & Co.
I just felt you were too focused on that CF position, missing that post aswell, that's why I mentioned the rest of the team as a bigger problem than the strikers. I pretty much agree on what you mean, though.
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