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Fred

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If we get Ribery and keep Diego,and Giovinco in the process, we would have a mouth watering midfield.

Giovinco has shown that he could play as well on the right side, and with Ribery covering the left, Diego play making in the center, we will undoubtedly be an attractive team again.

But before we get Ribery, I wish for a revolution upstairs with a positive outcome and a competent head coach for next season.

And yes I know, "don't forget about the defense".
You already have a mouth watering midfield, well at least on paper. Its just not being used properly.
 

Fred

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We cannot and should not play without wingers. We can't do that unless we have world class fullbacks. Ours are mediocre and that makes our midfield weak.
That is true, it was always inevitable that systems like the 4-3-1-2 would fail due to the lack of quality attacking fullbacks. Without quality attack minded fullbacks, you would have no width and as a result your play would be too narrow and in turn predictable, one dimensional and easy to stop.


Either buy wingers or buy good attacking fullbacks.
 

Dostoevsky

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That is true, it was always inevitable that systems like the 4-3-1-2 would fail due to the lack of quality attacking fullbacks. Without quality attack minded fullbacks, you would have no width and as a result your play would be too narrow and in turn predictable, one dimensional and easy to stop.


Either buy wingers or buy good attacking fullbacks.
Exactly.

Our play is very predictable and it's noticeable that they aren't used to attack through the middle. The burden is on Diego always to make something out of nothing. It was much easier when he had Camo and Giovinco next to him, we had width and we were dangerous. But back then we had Poulsen and Melo I think, so we lost too many balls. Still, with our fullbacks we shouldn't continue with this system next season.

Del Piero is not getting any younger, Trez might be on his way out. We have Giovinco and a great opportunity to play 4-2-3-1 next season.

Our biggest problem is defense. We need our whole budget to fix all the holes. Only Chiellini is worth of starting spot and that is killing us. Caceres is too expensive and IMO not worth it while Legro should be a sub and nothing more.

LB - Santon/Kolarov ... best options but very hard to get, if we miss out those two we're gonna have problems finding one good. I don't think I'd rely on Criscito.
CB - Skrtel/Mexes/Kjaer ... one is needed to be next to Chiellini. Not a clumsy defender, though
RB - Beck? Hell, I can't think of many

For midfield we need somebody on Camo's place. There aren't many options, I'd look for Krasic. He can cover both sides and looks good, something that we need.
Returning Palladino might be good for a back up, we can't afford to spend too much on that position too.

As for our attack, I'm sure this would suit Amauri. We shouldn't sell him IMO. Better players are out there but I don't think we should spend 25mln on that position when we gotta fix other positions first. And with wingers, he'd get his play and be his old self again. No need for freakin' Pazzini's.

The bottom line is, we need a lot of cash to get this team going.
 

Fred

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Its already bad enough having to choose between getting quality wingers or fixing the defense. Both positions need heavy investing to be honest, i don't think Juve have enough money to deal with both problems. Now fixing the defense by getting in a centerback and a fullback that is capable of providing quality in attack will probably leave little if any money for the winger position.
 

Red

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Just buy one of each.

Have a defensive fullback and a winger on one side and an attacking fullback and narrow midfield on the other.
 

Fred

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Palla wouldn't be too bad for a backup. If thats why they are bringing him, then its not such a bad move. But if they are bringing him in to start him, then you guys have entered a whole new phase of being desperate.
 

Fred

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Maybe just this

CB
RB
AMR

Buffon

Motta - Chiellini - Mexes - De Ceglie

Sissoko - Melo

Krasic - Diego - Giovinco

Amauri​

We'd have money left for some back ups.
Motta, Mexes and Krasic??

Too good to be true for you guys. I don't think you can afford all 3 players. Motta might not be too expensive since he hasn't been playing a lot of games for Roma this season. But Mexes would probably cost 10M+ and Krasic will probably be between 16-20M due to the hype surrounding the player.
 

Dostoevsky

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Motta, Mexes and Krasic??

Too good to be true for you guys. I don't think you can afford all 3 players. Motta might not be too expensive since he hasn't been playing a lot of games for Roma this season. But Mexes would probably cost 10M+ and Krasic will probably be between 16-20M due to the hype surrounding the player.
Motta is not on Ranieri's list of choices, we could even buy 50% of his contract. Still, we could buy his whole rights for 7mln.

Mexes' contract is expiring and he's likely on his way out. He'd cost around 11-12

Krasic would be around 13-15, true, but totally worth it IMO.

We can afford all that, plus get some back ups as well.
 

Byrone

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Maybe just this

CB
RB
AMR

Buffon

Motta - Chiellini - Mexes - De Ceglie

Sissoko - Melo

Krasic - Diego - Giovinco

Amauri​

We'd have money left for some back ups.
I really don't trust De Ceglie as a starter & bringing in RB,CB & LB is the biggest priority imo.

Motta would be a nice addition & i'd rather start Criscito instead of De Ceglie.

Palla wouldn't be too bad for a backup. If thats why they are bringing him, then its not such a bad move. But if they are bringing him in to start him, then you guys have entered a whole new phase of being desperate.
Yeah but its rather stupid to make plans for the future yet we don't know who the new coach will be.Unless they really have one in mind & he's suggested to bring Palladino back.If the new coach doesn't see him in his plans then we've wasted money on bringing him back & selling Criscito in the process.

I just don't see Genoa letting us take them both.
 

Dostoevsky

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I really don't trust De Ceglie as a starter & bringing in RB,CB & LB is the biggest priority imo.

Motta would be a nice addition & i'd rather start Criscito instead of De Ceglie
RB is more important because we can't play with Grygera. I don't really rate Criscito much, I don't see him making a career as a good defender. He's too weak for a fullback and we'd spend too much :money: on him.

Motta - 3.5
Mexes - 12
Krasic - 15
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let's say 30mln euros

I expect us to spend 45-50mln again this summer. We'll sell Tiago and few others. We could sign some more back ups/youngsters so there might be place for a LB as well. I don't see us buying both LB and RB.
If there's an option, I'd pay 15-17mln for Ivanovic.
 

Byrone

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RB is more important because we can't play with Grygera. I don't really rate Criscito much, I don't see him making a career as a good defender. He's too weak for a fullback and we'd spend too much :money: on him.

Motta - 3.5
Mexes - 12
Krasic - 15
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let's say 30mln euros

I expect us to spend 45-50mln again this summer. We'll sell Tiago and few others. We could sign some more back ups/youngsters so there might be place for a LB as well. I don't see us buying both LB and RB.
If there's an option, I'd pay 15-17mln for Ivanovic.
Well it all boils down to the new coach really.He would have a better understanding of the players at his disposal & whether or not they can crack it.I agree that there's a slim chance of getting bothe RB & LB but you never know.

As for Motta & Mexes,i don't see Roma letting them go for that little,especially after that 50m spending story.BS or not Secco is gonna be bullied for astronomical prices during the next transfer window.

We need to get rid of Tiago,Almiron,Molinaro & Salihimidzic.Selling Camo & Trez is gonna be the tricky part if the rumors are true.I don't see any big clubs making bids or even paying decent cash,the smaller teams might but i don't see either of them leaving for a team that wont challenge for honors.
 

Dostoevsky

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As for Motta & Mexes,i don't see Roma letting them go for that little,especially after that 50m spending story.BS or not Secco is gonna be bullied for astronomical prices during the next transfer window.
Maybe for other players but not for those two. They kinda have a set-up price so they can't choose.

Who knows if we'll have Secco too. ;)
 
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