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Bjerknes

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Mar 16, 2004
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Hes great when not injured means hes not consistently performing which is one of the hallmarks of quality.
That's absolutely not true whatsoever. How the hell can a player even play when he's injured? The notion doesn't make sense.

If it would, that would mean Del Piero is a terrible player because he didn't play much those years when he was injured.

:shifty:
 

IrishZebra

Western Imperialist
Jun 18, 2006
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That's absolutely not true whatsoever. How the hell can a player even play when he's injured? The notion doesn't make sense.

If it would, that would mean Del Piero is a terrible player because he didn't play much those years when he was injured.

:shifty:
Fair enough, but you can't give a free pass for injuries, and i didn't say he was terrible I said he wasn't great and the periods when the Captain wasn't playing have more than been made up for, if Zebina gives 3 years of Alex level effort i'll bake him a fuckin cake but then again acording to the rule, you've used Alex as an example against me and so my case is now invalid ::lol:

Why I don't like Trez, now this is don't like him not really a question on his ability.

Whenever I've seen him play, and the two times in attendance, he does almost zero ball chasing/efort and then makes this face

Ass if he's done some sort of super-exertion.

But its really just symatics, I sure if he got a bit of plastic surgery I wouldn't dislike him.
 

pitbull

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Jul 26, 2007
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if you would watch Trez more in stadium, you could actually see that he isn't just standing on the pitch at the times he isn't scoring, every young striker could learn a lot from the movement of David. and no player should make up for being injured, it's not his fucking fault if some Roy Keane makes crazy tackle or Tiago injures him in training, if you finish your carreer at 27 and play around 10 fantastic years, that doesn't make you lesser player than Maldini, who played i think 25 seasons as a pro.
 

IrishZebra

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Jun 18, 2006
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if you would watch Trez more in stadium, you could actually see that he isn't just standing on the pitch at the times he isn't scoring, every young striker could learn a lot from the movement of David. and no player should make up for being injured, it's not his fucking fault if some Roy Keane makes crazy tackle or Tiago injures him in training, if you finish your carreer at 27 and play around 10 fantastic years, that doesn't make you lesser player than Maldini, who played i think 25 seasons as a pro.
1.I watch him closely the entire time he was on the pitch, unless you were there you can't comment.
2.Since when has Zebina had 10 fantastic years?
 

pitbull

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Jul 26, 2007
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1.I watch him closely the entire time he was on the pitch, unless you were there you can't comment.
2.Since when has Zebina had 10 fantastic years?
yeah, you watched him playing two games in stadium, and know you're trying to say that he is one lazy mofo, in what, 0,01% games he ever played for Juve?
whatever. i wasn't talking about Zebina, but if you finish your career earlier because of injuries like Van Basten did that doesn't make you lesser player than Maldini, that was what i was trying to say. if you think that Zebina is mediocre or bad than don't try to use his injuries like an argument in your favour.
 

IrishZebra

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Jun 18, 2006
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Zebina has done Fuck All, It doesn;t matter about injuries and his temper when you have to consider him as a player.
yeah, you watched him playing two games in stadium, and know you're trying to say that he is one lazy mofo, in what, 0,01% games he ever played for Juve?
whatever. i wasn't talking about Zebina, but if you finish your career earlier because of injuries like Van Basten did that doesn't make you lesser player than Maldini, that was what i was trying to say. if you think that Zebina is mediocre or bad than don't try to use his injuries like an argument in your favour.
I didn't somebody used it as a defence.
 

Bjerknes

"Top Economist"
Mar 16, 2004
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Fair enough, but you can't give a free pass for injuries, and i didn't say he was terrible I said he wasn't great and the periods when the Captain wasn't playing have more than been made up for, if Zebina gives 3 years of Alex level effort i'll bake him a fuckin cake but then again acording to the rule, you've used Alex as an example against me and so my case is now invalid ::lol:

Why I don't like Trez, now this is don't like him not really a question on his ability.

Whenever I've seen him play, and the two times in attendance, he does almost zero ball chasing/efort and then makes this face

Ass if he's done some sort of super-exertion.

But its really just symatics, I sure if he got a bit of plastic surgery I wouldn't dislike him.
Didn't you say Zebina did "fuck all"? That's much different from saying he's not great.

Look, I'm not saying he is great, but he is not a total disaster like Grygera or Molinaro. Zebina makes mistakes but not as many as those clowns in both aspects of the game. And what he also brings to the table is very strong runs down the right-flank, plus he *can* complete passes. Not to mention his crossing is clearly better than Moli's albeit nothing special.

So if Grygera and Moli are on the team, there's no reason why Zebinga shouldn't. This discussion really has nothing to do with injuries because all of these players in the discussion have had sufficient playing time in the past.

And saying Trezeguet never runs hard for balls is simply ridiculous, especially after seeing him while Capello was in charge. But Trezeguet hate is nothing new.
 

IrishZebra

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Jun 18, 2006
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Like i said its that expression of faux effort a la Drogba that makes me dislike Trez, I can't help it. I don't hate him, and I certainely couldn't because of his skill level, which really is beyond reproach.

Zebina has done fuck all, doing fuck all and not being great at sometihng go hand in hand.
 

Ken

The Dutch Touch
Aug 17, 2007
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O'Shea is a much bigger pile of garbage than Zebina. That's the only way to compare them if you insist Zebina is garbage.
 
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