Thats why we have governments.
And no, the rest of the world isn't any better.
And no, the rest of the world isn't any better.
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The War on Iran (3 Viewers)
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The predictable part is I was choosing another word, but chose proof even if its not the apt word, because I knew somehow you would ignore the purpose of my post and just jump on that alone. Nice to see you dont dissapoint.
And the rest of your post:
And the rest of your post:
Well, that's because it's not in the news. They only write special reports on it or else the news is hidden somewhere in the "World" section of various media outlet websites.
What should Obama do about it? Tell his intelligence network clowns to stop funding terrorism and leave Iran alone already before war breaks out, crude oil goes to unimaginable price levels, and more of our troops die due to this crap. Most of the time you don't know who you're dealing with in groups like Jundallah, and that money or weapons could easily travel to other groups to use on your average joe serving his country.
What should Obama do about it? Tell his intelligence network clowns to stop funding terrorism and leave Iran alone already before war breaks out, crude oil goes to unimaginable price levels, and more of our troops die due to this crap. Most of the time you don't know who you're dealing with in groups like Jundallah, and that money or weapons could easily travel to other groups to use on your average joe serving his country.
A better question is why you made this below post. The reason for it. Or is just by accident it came right after Andy's posts of articles that stated the obvious of what the Bush Admin tried to do in Iran (and still do, foreign policies like that has been the norm, instead of something shocking, I mean there is a an offcial state set up council group called "free Iran", thats 100% task to to destablize the country, been there for 30 years).
Your response to everything "negative" is brushing it off immediately and saying empty platitudes that pretty much deflect or hide from addressing it at face value (like, seriously, do you think its possibly a bad thing to do? Better question, even possible they did that?). No one is saying they are all evil, but you pretty much take "head in sand" approach to everything, desbelieving the very notion that its even possible, point blank first think is saying how untrusty the media reporting it is, instead of even addressing it anyway.
This may as well be my last post on this thread
P.S There is a difference between the 9/11 "they did it" stuff to simply emperialistic foreign policy. Its so convenient how everything is deemed conspiracy theory.
Your response to everything "negative" is brushing it off immediately and saying empty platitudes that pretty much deflect or hide from addressing it at face value (like, seriously, do you think its possibly a bad thing to do? Better question, even possible they did that?). No one is saying they are all evil, but you pretty much take "head in sand" approach to everything, desbelieving the very notion that its even possible, point blank first think is saying how untrusty the media reporting it is, instead of even addressing it anyway.
This may as well be my last post on this thread
P.S There is a difference between the 9/11 "they did it" stuff to simply emperialistic foreign policy. Its so convenient how everything is deemed conspiracy theory.
I have heard that this Jundallah group have ties with the Taliban but I'm not sure about how true this is. It seems undeniable that we have been funding them secretly but its not a surprise. The U.S. government has a history of funding shady groups and radical organizations to destabilize a standing administration in a hostile country, and unfortunately this foolish behavior often has costly consequences. We are even partly responsible for how the Taliban was able to rise to power originally in Afghanistan because we were trying to undermine Russian expansion during the cold war. It's sad that we are funding people so similar to the ones that we are being told by the government to fear
Iran successfully simulates nuclear warhead detonation
German intelligence reports that Iranian scientists have successfully simulated the detonation of a nuclear warhead in laboratory conditions, in an effort to sidestep an underground nuclear test like the one that brought the world down on North Korea's head earlier this year. Iranian and intelligence sources report that this development is alarming because detonation is one of the most difficult technological challenges in the development of a nuclear weapon. Mastering it carries Iran past one of the last major obstacles confronting its program for the manufacture of a nuclear warhead.
After this breakthrough, the German BND intelligence believes it will take Tehran no more than a year to perfect its expertise and stock enough highly-enriched uranium (HEU) to make the last leap toward building the first Iranian nuclear bomb or warhead. Military sources confirm that simulated detonation of a warhead takes Iran to the highest level of weapons development.
Using the example of Israel and other nations, Western nuclear arms experts have claimed in recent years that since the emergence of simulated detonation technique, nuclear tests are no longer necessary.
With this hurdle overcome, Tehran has set about restructuring its defense ministry for the coming task of actually making a weapon.
The new Department for Expanded Technology Applications - FEDAT was set up to speed up the military nuclear program. It is divided into sub-departments for uranium mining (to increase the output of the Yazd mines), enrichment (to guarantee the quantity of high-grade uranium needed for weapons), metallurgy, neutrons, highly explosive material and fuel supply.
Wednesday, Dec. 2, Iran's president Mahmoud Ahmadinejad said: "The Iranian nation will by itself make the 20 percent (nuclear) fuel (enriched uranium) and whatever it needs."
President Barack Obama has reminded Tehran that it has until the end of the year for a negotiated accommodation on its nuclear program that will uphold its international obligations. However, tor Iran's leaders, progress toward a nuclear weapon is now unstoppable by any diplomatic means.""
www.debka.com/headline.php?hid=6403
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Not a credible source as far as I'm concerned, and could just be the typical propaganda.
Things still point to war though.
German intelligence reports that Iranian scientists have successfully simulated the detonation of a nuclear warhead in laboratory conditions, in an effort to sidestep an underground nuclear test like the one that brought the world down on North Korea's head earlier this year. Iranian and intelligence sources report that this development is alarming because detonation is one of the most difficult technological challenges in the development of a nuclear weapon. Mastering it carries Iran past one of the last major obstacles confronting its program for the manufacture of a nuclear warhead.
After this breakthrough, the German BND intelligence believes it will take Tehran no more than a year to perfect its expertise and stock enough highly-enriched uranium (HEU) to make the last leap toward building the first Iranian nuclear bomb or warhead. Military sources confirm that simulated detonation of a warhead takes Iran to the highest level of weapons development.
Using the example of Israel and other nations, Western nuclear arms experts have claimed in recent years that since the emergence of simulated detonation technique, nuclear tests are no longer necessary.
With this hurdle overcome, Tehran has set about restructuring its defense ministry for the coming task of actually making a weapon.
The new Department for Expanded Technology Applications - FEDAT was set up to speed up the military nuclear program. It is divided into sub-departments for uranium mining (to increase the output of the Yazd mines), enrichment (to guarantee the quantity of high-grade uranium needed for weapons), metallurgy, neutrons, highly explosive material and fuel supply.
Wednesday, Dec. 2, Iran's president Mahmoud Ahmadinejad said: "The Iranian nation will by itself make the 20 percent (nuclear) fuel (enriched uranium) and whatever it needs."
President Barack Obama has reminded Tehran that it has until the end of the year for a negotiated accommodation on its nuclear program that will uphold its international obligations. However, tor Iran's leaders, progress toward a nuclear weapon is now unstoppable by any diplomatic means.""
www.debka.com/headline.php?hid=6403
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Not a credible source as far as I'm concerned, and could just be the typical propaganda.
Things still point to war though.
Has Iran's Supreme Leader Disappeared?
by Hana Levi Julian and Nissan Ratzlav-Katz
(IsraelNN.com) An underground Iranian activist has told Israel National News that the country's highest official -- Supreme Leader Ayatollah Khamenei -- was spirited to a "secret place" for his own safety and that the nation's religious leaders are "scared." The source - an activist in the global Iranian pro-democracy movement who is involved in assisting a group of some 30,000 students located in Tehran and several other major cities - said Khamenei has disappeared. It is the Supreme Leader who controls Iran's foreign policy, and specifically its decisions regarding its nuclear development activities.
"I am told that Khamenei was taken to a secret place to monitor the situation and perhaps for his safety, and a helicopter was ready with a pilot in it to perhaps fly him out to Russia if the situation got out of hand," the source told Israel National News on Tuesday. "I am also told that prominent clergy went to meet with him hoping to force him to show leniency.... [Our consensus] is that [the] mullahs are scared."
Foreign journalists were once again banned, phone networks cut and Internet connections spotty at best as government forces tried to put the lid back on the growing unrest that again broke out during special observances on Monday.
http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/134869
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Hmm, intel on an impending attack by the IDF?
by Hana Levi Julian and Nissan Ratzlav-Katz
(IsraelNN.com) An underground Iranian activist has told Israel National News that the country's highest official -- Supreme Leader Ayatollah Khamenei -- was spirited to a "secret place" for his own safety and that the nation's religious leaders are "scared." The source - an activist in the global Iranian pro-democracy movement who is involved in assisting a group of some 30,000 students located in Tehran and several other major cities - said Khamenei has disappeared. It is the Supreme Leader who controls Iran's foreign policy, and specifically its decisions regarding its nuclear development activities.
"I am told that Khamenei was taken to a secret place to monitor the situation and perhaps for his safety, and a helicopter was ready with a pilot in it to perhaps fly him out to Russia if the situation got out of hand," the source told Israel National News on Tuesday. "I am also told that prominent clergy went to meet with him hoping to force him to show leniency.... [Our consensus] is that [the] mullahs are scared."
Foreign journalists were once again banned, phone networks cut and Internet connections spotty at best as government forces tried to put the lid back on the growing unrest that again broke out during special observances on Monday.
http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/134869
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Hmm, intel on an impending attack by the IDF?
Iran Says it Will Strike Israel's Nuclear Sites if Attacked
BEIRUT (AP) — Lebanon's Al Manar TV says Iran's defense minister has warned that his country will strike Israel's nuclear sites if the Jewish state attacks Iranian nuclear facilities.
The Wednesday report says Gen. Ahmad Vahidi made his comments to reporters while visiting Damascus, capital of neighboring Syria. Al Manar is the mouthpiece of Hezbollah, an Iranian-backed Lebanese guerrilla group and political party. Iran's English language Press TV also carried Vahidi's comments.
Israel has not ruled out a military strike against Iran's nuclear facilities. Israel, the United States and other Western nations say Iran is seeking to acquire nuclear weapons.
Iran denies the charge. It says its nuclear program is only for peaceful purposes.
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Not sure with what though.
BEIRUT (AP) — Lebanon's Al Manar TV says Iran's defense minister has warned that his country will strike Israel's nuclear sites if the Jewish state attacks Iranian nuclear facilities.
The Wednesday report says Gen. Ahmad Vahidi made his comments to reporters while visiting Damascus, capital of neighboring Syria. Al Manar is the mouthpiece of Hezbollah, an Iranian-backed Lebanese guerrilla group and political party. Iran's English language Press TV also carried Vahidi's comments.
Israel has not ruled out a military strike against Iran's nuclear facilities. Israel, the United States and other Western nations say Iran is seeking to acquire nuclear weapons.
Iran denies the charge. It says its nuclear program is only for peaceful purposes.
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Not sure with what though.
probably....because no one else has the balls to do it
and before you start foaming at the mouth about the Israel, just remember this- Iran's nuclear program is a threat to the entire Middle East and Europe as well
Lets just keep stalling, while they push ahead with their development, and sooner or later, we'll be too late
Israel will eliminate the threat
and before you start foaming at the mouth about the Israel, just remember this- Iran's nuclear program is a threat to the entire Middle East and Europe as well
Lets just keep stalling, while they push ahead with their development, and sooner or later, we'll be too late
Israel will eliminate the threat
They shut the mobile networks in Tehran within the time of the protests on the Student Day. Cellphone lines getting crushed has become an ominous sign for the people since the first days of the unrest. Whenever they shut the lines or slow down the internet connections, everyone expects something awful to take place. When Basij attacked Tehran University campus after the elections, all the phone lines were down. After they left the university, the injured students were not able even to make contact with the outside asking for help.
Andy; Khamaneei is in Tehran. How they come up with such stories is beyond me to be honest.
Andy; Khamaneei is in Tehran. How they come up with such stories is beyond me to be honest.