The Triade (Bettega, Giraudo, Moggi) (2 Viewers)
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Oh, how realistic is this.
:dontcare: Well to be honest I'm not even a slightest bit surprised, after all you've spelled the name of the reneissance painter (and the nickname of your favourite player) wrong in your signature and quite frankly we all know what you know and what you are. Please people, hold your horses. Why all these oneliners and making arguments without any real arguments to base them on?
I'm just glad that you finally agree about Giraudo, he isn't that big of a loss. That's a small victory for me.
Agreed, this is pretty much the picture I'm getting too.
Once again, what makes you think that he loves the club? Just working for the club for over ten years doesn't make you love the team. Of course it could do that, like in case of Ferrara, but Moggi is a different thing, he's above all a businessman. Let him go to inter, they won't be getting any stronger since they're problems are far deeper than that.
Agreed on all counts here, Bettega definitely has the skills to do so.
Full agree on first count, but I wholeheartedly disagree on last sentence, nothing implies that the success rate is going down in the near future. Besides, few trophyless seasons wouldn't even hurt, at least the quality of these forums would improve a bit.
Once again, if you make an argument, please back it up with a real arguments rather than ask if I'm on drugs. And no, the trophy cabinet doesn't count as evidence. I'll repeat, people always think it's just Moggi behind the transfers, while Moggi's real job is just negotiating the financial details, delegate the jobs and listen to the coach and other staff that know their business. People forget everything about the scouts that recommend the players and just praise "Moggi's brilliant findings", people say that Moggi bought Vieira while it was Capello who asked for him. Rating Moggi so highly is
:dontcare: Well to be honest I'm not even a slightest bit surprised, after all you've spelled the name of the reneissance painter (and the nickname of your favourite player) wrong in your signature and quite frankly we all know what you know and what you are. Please people, hold your horses. Why all these oneliners and making arguments without any real arguments to base them on?
I'm just glad that you finally agree about Giraudo, he isn't that big of a loss. That's a small victory for me.
Agreed, this is pretty much the picture I'm getting too.
Once again, what makes you think that he loves the club? Just working for the club for over ten years doesn't make you love the team. Of course it could do that, like in case of Ferrara, but Moggi is a different thing, he's above all a businessman. Let him go to inter, they won't be getting any stronger since they're problems are far deeper than that.
Agreed on all counts here, Bettega definitely has the skills to do so.
Full agree on first count, but I wholeheartedly disagree on last sentence, nothing implies that the success rate is going down in the near future. Besides, few trophyless seasons wouldn't even hurt, at least the quality of these forums would improve a bit.
Once again, if you make an argument, please back it up with a real arguments rather than ask if I'm on drugs. And no, the trophy cabinet doesn't count as evidence. I'll repeat, people always think it's just Moggi behind the transfers, while Moggi's real job is just negotiating the financial details, delegate the jobs and listen to the coach and other staff that know their business. People forget everything about the scouts that recommend the players and just praise "Moggi's brilliant findings", people say that Moggi bought Vieira while it was Capello who asked for him. Rating Moggi so highly is
Read my posts before answering me. Juve won't be gone for a long if they leave now, things are quite a bit different in the footballing world compared to the situation in the 80's. Without money, are you serious with that? They were just lucky because a genious like Trapattoni was there to start building basics for a winning team that already won Uefa cup at '93 and after that natural talent like Lippi ennobling already good squad that just got better and better after buying players like Del Piero, Di Livio, Fortunato, Deschamps, Ferrara, Tacchinardi, Jugovic, Lombardo, Pessotto etc. etc. Literally ripping of the best players from smaller, provincial teams, just like Juve has always done and is still doing quite successfully. As far as I see it, I count it more of an achievement for Lippi than those men there on behind the big tables who really didn't concretely do that much, though as I said earlier you've got to admit that they did decent job with finances.
Once again, what's the point of writing useless one-liners like this if you don't bother to back your claims with hard facts or explaining your opinion in any other way.
Once again, what's the point of writing useless one-liners like this if you don't bother to back your claims with hard facts or explaining your opinion in any other way.
Agreed. However, it does not take much effort and knowledge to pinpoint the weaknesses of our side, and after last year it was quite obvious we needed another central midfielder to replace Blasi. While thinking of possible candidates we could buy Vieira's name popped up several times, so putting his name on a list is not exactly a difficult task either. Personally I believe convincing the player to move is the most difficult task in all of this, however not many are going to say no to Juventus.
Giraudo is probably the most expendible member of the Triade because the way I see it his job can be performed adeptly by quite a few people...not to mention he's not the most likable man either.
Giraudo is probably the most expendible member of the Triade because the way I see it his job can be performed adeptly by quite a few people...not to mention he's not the most likable man either.
Personally I see Giraudo as the least expendible of the three... Yes there are many things i hate about the man from the viewpoint of a stadium going fan... But as a supporter of the club as a whole (not jus entertaining me on a sunday afternoon) there is few bad words to be said about the man... He has done a great job for us and allways looked after the clubs best interests...
Far more important than the virtual figurehead bettega has become... Club legend or not.. the man does next to ,fvck all
Far more important than the virtual figurehead bettega has become... Club legend or not.. the man does next to ,fvck all
I somewhat agree that Giraudo's job is the most difficult of those three to replace, but I also think that isn't really saying much. Juventus is incredibly known brand, something that could, should and is exploited and I firmly believe that there are loads of competent businessmen ready to take the job and do as good or even better than their successors. As I said before, Moggi and Giraudo are very overrated.
Juve: Montezemolo appoggia 'Triade'
Mer 23 Nov, 8:16 PM
(ANSA) - ISTANBUL, 23 NOV - Cambiera' la dirigenza juventina composta adesso dalla 'triade'? Montezemolo non lo crede e dice che 'bisogna aiutare chi lavora bene'. Da un pezzo ormai circolano le voci sulla rottura, a fine stagione, della 'triade' che governa la Juventus, e si parla delle possibili partenze di Giraudo e Moggi. Il presidente Fiat ha preferito non sbilanciarsi piu' di tanto, sulla questione, anche se ha fatto bene intendere che gli piacerebbe che le cose restassero come sono.
Mer 23 Nov, 8:16 PM
(ANSA) - ISTANBUL, 23 NOV - Cambiera' la dirigenza juventina composta adesso dalla 'triade'? Montezemolo non lo crede e dice che 'bisogna aiutare chi lavora bene'. Da un pezzo ormai circolano le voci sulla rottura, a fine stagione, della 'triade' che governa la Juventus, e si parla delle possibili partenze di Giraudo e Moggi. Il presidente Fiat ha preferito non sbilanciarsi piu' di tanto, sulla questione, anche se ha fatto bene intendere che gli piacerebbe che le cose restassero come sono.
Juve, il giovane Agnelli: "La triade restera' al suo posto"
Lun 21 Nov, 4:29 PM
La Triade restera' al suo posto, parola di Andrea Agnelli. A spazzare via (per il momento) dubbi e incertezze sul futuro assetto societario della Juve e' il giovane rampollo della famiglia torinese. "Questa dirigenza e' la migliore possibile in assoluto - ha detto Andrea Agnelli, consigliere di amministrazione del club bianconero - La fiducia e' totale in Giraudo, Moggi, Bettega e Romi Gai".
Lun 21 Nov, 4:29 PM
La Triade restera' al suo posto, parola di Andrea Agnelli. A spazzare via (per il momento) dubbi e incertezze sul futuro assetto societario della Juve e' il giovane rampollo della famiglia torinese. "Questa dirigenza e' la migliore possibile in assoluto - ha detto Andrea Agnelli, consigliere di amministrazione del club bianconero - La fiducia e' totale in Giraudo, Moggi, Bettega e Romi Gai".
