The one and only Capello thread (3 Viewers)
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Moggi D'Messiah said:
I totally agree! Look at Zlatan we paid £10.5m and could sell him for around £25 easily. That was what Lippi used to do. He bought all these potentially big star players. I loved our C.L winning team 1996!
Forza Lippi.
Oust .,.......Zlatan/Capello/Zebina/Vieira/
Enter .............Cassano/Mancini/Chivu/ def/mid
Forza Lippi.
Oust .,.......Zlatan/Capello/Zebina/Vieira/
Enter .............Cassano/Mancini/Chivu/ def/mid
SO man you want us to buy more Roma players?Ok, Cassano,Mancini and Chivu are great but why to fill this team with Romanista?
Young talent thats possibly avaliable before other clubs get there mits on them. Romanista?, i'd like you to ask them if they are True Romanistas? I think not. They all wanna leave. Not my fault Roma invest in youngsters while we opt for the been there! done that! material.
I dont care where they come from. They know the serieA game so why not purchase them? They are quality.
I think roma have had no choice but to use there youngsters and invest in there youth. Simply because they aint the richest, they aint that appealing to play for and finally they suffered the transfer embargo recently. However prior to that they were fairly active in the transfer market. The main thing is are we prepared to use the youngsters there is a risk thing about all of this not much faith from capello as there should be from a a manager. But when your a manager and your facing the prospect of atleast winning the league it couldnt be any easier. So what does he do? he takes the easy way around and brings in the already proven players. That may help us for a season maybe next too but lets face it we are really buggered if things dont progress in this transfer campaign.
sateeh said:
man u always make a compelling argument, good post and here is wat i think abt it.
first of all i hope u were joking about being a coach cuz the pressure alone would've gotten to u in a couple of weeks.Although football isnt that hard, but its not as easy as u think especially these days when the millions came in. Look wat the pressure made of poor Mancini, he started out in Inter with a head full of black hair and now he looks like hes 90.
-Abt those ppl who judge players on their race, then i agree with u all the way, its just unacceptable.Its just a shame thats in our game today.
-abt toure and nesta, he is having a great season.But u cant just compare him to Nesta as nesta has this prescence about him.I dont know how or why. And remember that toure wasnt a standing figure in his national team or his club since his young age.U just cant compare a defender who had a few good years to a world class defender like Nesta.But if ur saying this season then toure does have a slight advantage.
-about cap, i agree about the need for a change as the guy looks like being here for long long year not just two.But if he stay i wont mind.
My question to u is this...why do many ppl always rate achieving a tough task like the scudetto as its nothing.
U cant deny that the team was tired. can u? but i wont use it as a major excuse to the lose and it is blamed on the coach.Also another thing is the coach's inflexibility.
another thing is the things he says, they r unrealistic..but i guess that hes trying to take the pressure away from the team.Same technique mourinho is using but the latter is using another method.
-we do need to get some decent football by cap or anybody else for that matter, unlike others here i think that cap is capable is that.
i Dont agree abt the refferee things that were and are said.Reffereeing mistakes helped us in the past and in the present as well as others and they harmed us as well as others. It just pisses me off when hear shit like that.
-abt neddy and alex, the problem with both especially neddy i dont think they would be very happy would just a backup spot. So mybe it will be harder to keep them. But i think both have a year or two in them and they wont harm.Especially alex.
-i wont suspect abt the exchange but abt the players, although carlos is a great offensive player he is a liability in the backline. And i dont suspect he would not come to a club to play as a backup player. At the end of his career he would want to play first team football. I think salgado is very good.Although he has his mistakes, but overall he is good.
Cassano would be great only under a coach who could keep a tight leash on him, and get the best from him.So unless we could get this coach, i would advise against it.
-Rijjkard wouldn't let ettoo off soo easily even if Henry comes, and Deco is soo accustomed to playing in spaces soo it would be a bit harder to play him in serie A. But i agree we should test the water a bit and Ettoo would be great.
Whether they would want to take emerson or not is the thing am thinking about.But i think that puma is doing well, and that he deserves his place. In regards to CL Viera would be a better option.But we cant forget about the league though.
-Beleive it or not Ibra's price went down heavily this season and only the world cup would raise it.Thats if he has a good one.And if both Gallas and Robben do well then we r screwed in that matter. Gallas would be great. However i see robben as having the same attributes as Ibra.So this wont help the teamwork alot.Robben like to play for himself, and mourinho wont let him loose easily too.
-Abt riquelme i know he would be great however, he didnt impress at all in a big team and thats Barca.So am still unsure about him. Juninho would be great but he isnt soo young so that wont help in the long run.Diarra isnt established enough for my liking if ur gunning for the CL.
-Blasi is a great prospect imo, and i completely agree that if he had someone creative next to him his touch would've evolved massively. Gianni is a hardworker who always gives his best, and he doesnt mind sitting on the bench and always helps the team out. Balza is good prospect i see him doing well in the next few years, as he is still young.
Chiellini was brought as a CB and then in fiorentina was converted to a LB. So with the right training he would be a decent CB imo.And i would keep thuram if he would stay as a backup player.
-abt the manager i talked abt cap, but mourinho has spoiled the beautiful game imo.So i dont want him here.And he is as inflexibile as capello also, imo.
New manager? spalleti wont leave roma, prandelli wont leave viola as both r building squads for the future.I would advise against them anyway.So i really dont know, and if we r changing managers then i would leave it to the triad and the management.
- i want the beautiful football back...but another question to u and the others is Are u willing to concede a few losses here and there, just to watch the beautiful football?
And just a point i concluded from ur post, i thought u would suggest a bit unknown players with big potentials. The type of players that juve used to bring in the past. Not big names like the ones u suggested, for me i would like the relatively unknown players with big potentials as opposed for the big names.
As they would give more heart to this team imo, and i think this is one best attributes of this team.
anyway , again great post mate
hope u get the job
, i will even recommend u..
first of all i hope u were joking about being a coach cuz the pressure alone would've gotten to u in a couple of weeks.Although football isnt that hard, but its not as easy as u think especially these days when the millions came in. Look wat the pressure made of poor Mancini, he started out in Inter with a head full of black hair and now he looks like hes 90.
-Abt those ppl who judge players on their race, then i agree with u all the way, its just unacceptable.Its just a shame thats in our game today.
-abt toure and nesta, he is having a great season.But u cant just compare him to Nesta as nesta has this prescence about him.I dont know how or why. And remember that toure wasnt a standing figure in his national team or his club since his young age.U just cant compare a defender who had a few good years to a world class defender like Nesta.But if ur saying this season then toure does have a slight advantage.
-about cap, i agree about the need for a change as the guy looks like being here for long long year not just two.But if he stay i wont mind.
My question to u is this...why do many ppl always rate achieving a tough task like the scudetto as its nothing.
U cant deny that the team was tired. can u? but i wont use it as a major excuse to the lose and it is blamed on the coach.Also another thing is the coach's inflexibility.
another thing is the things he says, they r unrealistic..but i guess that hes trying to take the pressure away from the team.Same technique mourinho is using but the latter is using another method.
-we do need to get some decent football by cap or anybody else for that matter, unlike others here i think that cap is capable is that.
i Dont agree abt the refferee things that were and are said.Reffereeing mistakes helped us in the past and in the present as well as others and they harmed us as well as others. It just pisses me off when hear shit like that.
-abt neddy and alex, the problem with both especially neddy i dont think they would be very happy would just a backup spot. So mybe it will be harder to keep them. But i think both have a year or two in them and they wont harm.Especially alex.
-i wont suspect abt the exchange but abt the players, although carlos is a great offensive player he is a liability in the backline. And i dont suspect he would not come to a club to play as a backup player. At the end of his career he would want to play first team football. I think salgado is very good.Although he has his mistakes, but overall he is good.
Cassano would be great only under a coach who could keep a tight leash on him, and get the best from him.So unless we could get this coach, i would advise against it.
-Rijjkard wouldn't let ettoo off soo easily even if Henry comes, and Deco is soo accustomed to playing in spaces soo it would be a bit harder to play him in serie A. But i agree we should test the water a bit and Ettoo would be great.
Whether they would want to take emerson or not is the thing am thinking about.But i think that puma is doing well, and that he deserves his place. In regards to CL Viera would be a better option.But we cant forget about the league though.
-Beleive it or not Ibra's price went down heavily this season and only the world cup would raise it.Thats if he has a good one.And if both Gallas and Robben do well then we r screwed in that matter. Gallas would be great. However i see robben as having the same attributes as Ibra.So this wont help the teamwork alot.Robben like to play for himself, and mourinho wont let him loose easily too.
-Abt riquelme i know he would be great however, he didnt impress at all in a big team and thats Barca.So am still unsure about him. Juninho would be great but he isnt soo young so that wont help in the long run.Diarra isnt established enough for my liking if ur gunning for the CL.
-Blasi is a great prospect imo, and i completely agree that if he had someone creative next to him his touch would've evolved massively. Gianni is a hardworker who always gives his best, and he doesnt mind sitting on the bench and always helps the team out. Balza is good prospect i see him doing well in the next few years, as he is still young.
Chiellini was brought as a CB and then in fiorentina was converted to a LB. So with the right training he would be a decent CB imo.And i would keep thuram if he would stay as a backup player.
-abt the manager i talked abt cap, but mourinho has spoiled the beautiful game imo.So i dont want him here.And he is as inflexibile as capello also, imo.
New manager? spalleti wont leave roma, prandelli wont leave viola as both r building squads for the future.I would advise against them anyway.So i really dont know, and if we r changing managers then i would leave it to the triad and the management.
- i want the beautiful football back...but another question to u and the others is Are u willing to concede a few losses here and there, just to watch the beautiful football?
And just a point i concluded from ur post, i thought u would suggest a bit unknown players with big potentials. The type of players that juve used to bring in the past. Not big names like the ones u suggested, for me i would like the relatively unknown players with big potentials as opposed for the big names.
As they would give more heart to this team imo, and i think this is one best attributes of this team.
anyway , again great post mate
hope u get the job
, i will even recommend u..
For the manager, i am hoping for a progressive French or dutch manager, I am not that fondof Italian managers, i gotta be honest
What I have against Spaletti is that yes, he has had a brilliant season with Roma but if you watch Roma closely, once they go in front, they start defending and only attack by counter attack especially against the so called big sides, i hate that. The same can be said of Prandelli, they attack you and after they have scored against you, they stop attacking, wanting to win by 1-0.
I like the players i mentioned cos of the variety of things they bring, Robben has pace, yes he is frustrating like hell but he has pace which Zlatan does not have and will never have and Chelsea do like zlatan
Can you imagine a team with Buffon, Zambrotta, carlos, gallas, cannavaro, Diara/Vieria, Riquelme, Deco,Robben, Etoo and Trez
With Juninho, salgado,Blasi, Marchionni,camo, Chiellinni, Thuram, Nedved, Dp on the bench if anything goes wrong
Of cos we will have the likes of Blasi and Giannichedda to play in league matches time and time again so that we do not get tired at the wrong time as it seems to be happening
And of cos i willcomeon here and other Juve forums to listen to what the fans are saying and what they want and do not want and players they feel are performing and those thats are not performing so every one or most people will be happy anyways
I feel fans should be able to make a contribution to their team and Moggi whether you like him or not has failed to entertain us with his stupid buys , efective someof them might have been, inthe whole they are functional more than creative
The players I definetly want out for numerous reasons ,nothingpersonal at all are
Zebina
Kovac
Zalayeta
Zlatan
Emerson
Oliveira
And no i have nothing against players with Zees
Players i wont mind if people come in for and wanna trade but ideally would like to keep em
camo
Trez
Mutu
Vieira
The one reason I would prefer Carlos to zambrotta at left back is because , though Zambrotta is wonderful at left back , he is nit left footed and those seconds he wastes trying to come to his right could be crucial and Carlos does not have that problem he will just cross the ball there and then
I appreciate your comments and would like for you to volunteer players as well
i agree with denco there about spalleti..Le Guen would've been interesting, but he went to rangers.Plzz noo deschamps, or eriksson.
and someone talked about getting chivu,mancini, and cassano..am guessing this would cost ALOT.
I like the proposotion of Rami, bring the big potential players in....clearly big names didnt work well for us.
Thats why i was more excited when we brought in players like gianni,blasi,chiellini,balza, even mutu... thats what moggi and Co do best.So i think thats the best policy
and someone talked about getting chivu,mancini, and cassano..am guessing this would cost ALOT.
I like the proposotion of Rami, bring the big potential players in....clearly big names didnt work well for us.
Thats why i was more excited when we brought in players like gianni,blasi,chiellini,balza, even mutu... thats what moggi and Co do best.So i think thats the best policy
Id appreciate positive criticism not negative ones, you are happy with the way the club is run? Definitely you are not happy with the manager but its not just his fault either. I will like to hear from you how we stand a better chance of winning Cl and which players you think we need and those we have now that we do not need
Moggi D'Messiah said:
I totally agree! Look at Zlatan we paid £10.5m and could sell him for around £25 easily. That was what Lippi used to do. He bought all these potentially big star players. I loved our C.L winning team 1996!
Forza Lippi.
Oust .,.......Zlatan/Capello/Zebina/Vieira/
Enter .............Cassano/Mancini/Chivu/ def/mid
Forza Lippi.
Oust .,.......Zlatan/Capello/Zebina/Vieira/
Enter .............Cassano/Mancini/Chivu/ def/mid
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