the Official Knee-Jerk reaction thread (8 Viewers)

[Cronios]

-Who picked the coach, when it was obvious that inexperienced and unproven coaches dont fit us?
-Who picked our players and all the strategic and tactical decision in our mercato,
regardless of our pawn-coaches?
-Who kept every incompetent member of the staff despite proving themselves inefficient (transfer director, medical staff, fitness etc)
-Who failed miserable, to protect our interests and our profile, just because of the good of Italian football?
The very same football who sacrificed everything, just to stop us winning?

Thats right the managements!!
Just like it happens within a team, when all the players and tactics fail, it points out its the coordinator (coach) that has the issue.
Thats precisely whats happening in our team, in a club level!
Our helm is incompetent, stop trying to delude yourselves with scapegoats and excuses, they have always been the problem and as long as they are there, the situation wont change!


Just like i pointed when we wanted to burn DD and CR after him... and now Ciro and so on... Those pawns were there to become the easy victims/scapegoats and you are just falling for it...

 

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[cyril]

battle? i asked you a rhetorical question to show that mgmt is at fault but instead you answer "ranieri" at which point i have to talk to you in a language, tiaganese, you can understand

Funny thing is that you think your funny with that tiaganese.

 

[Alen]

Those pawns were there to become the easy victims/scapegoats and you are just falling for it...

I'm still not buying it, and it's not due to being naive.
Tell me what makes Ferrara a pawn? He's a Yes man to what exactly?

 

[only-juve]

Don't think that Ferrara is a pawn or anything, he's resposible for all the decisions that he makes thats for sure.

But blaming him on everything that is wrong in this team is just not right IMO. As long as we don't have an experiensed management that actually knows how to react in situations like this we can't get better as a team.

 

[swag]

my bad i thought it was that ladyboy tiago who couldnt get a clearance to save his life, do you have any insider info who hes locking in the toilet next?

Oh, man that is some hilarious stuff. I know Tiago has more than his share of detractors. And I think he's better than most here would give him credit -- even if he should have never left Lyon.

But his clearances in the box this year have been some of the worst displays I've seen this side of Marchionni.

 

[AV-7]

1)IMO, there are to many player who are not world class and you cant expect much from them:
SISSOKO: He is a great runner a great tackler, but his passing and dribbling is awful. we have to compare balls won vs balls lost
POULSEN: He is a great destroyer, he can defend very well, but is not that type of player who can give deadly passes.
Caceres: He is a one hell of a hustler, but his runs are INEFFICIENT.
CANNAVARO: Matri was VERYYYYYYYY happy with his slow movements.
MOLINARO: If we are aiming for the scudetto or the champions league Molinaro should be out of our squad definitely. Siena, Napoli....
AMAURI: This bastard s doing everything to get on the score sheet. He is not playing for Juve, he is playing for him self. he wants to make to the world cup and that's it.
Ciro: Maybe he is experienced or he is clueless, but beside Del Piero, Diego, Camo, Chiellini , Trezeguet and Buffon there are no other consistant and quality player players on his disposal.
2)If we compare our 4312 to inter's 4312 we can see clearly that inter's players are way more quality than our players.
LB: Caceres<Maicon
CB:Cannavaro< Samuel
CB: Chiellini = Lucio
RB: Grosso<Chivu
LMC:Camo> stancovic
CDM: Melo< Cambiasso (till now)
RCM: Sissoko< Muntari
AMC: Diego=Sneijder
RF: Del Piero > Milito
LF: Amauri < Eto'o

If were are aiming for the scudetto then we have to change 3-4 players.

 

[swag]

AV-7, before we can compare ourselves to Inter, we need to first compare ourselves to the second-place Milan squad. :frown:

 

[Salvatore]

RCM: Sissoko< Muntari

haha.

 

[K.O.]

LB: Caceres<Maicon
CB:Cannavaro< Samuel
CB: Chiellini = Lucio
RB: Grosso<Chivu
LMC:Camo> stancovic
CDM: Melo< Cambiasso (till now)
RCM: Sissoko< Muntari
AMC: Diego=Sneijder
RF: Del Piero > Milito
LF: Amauri < Eto'o

Chiellini >>>>>>>>>>>>> Lucio

Sissoko > Muntari

Melo = Cambiasso (till now)

Del Piero < Milito (If we're using the 'till now')

 

[Cronios]

I'm still not buying it, and it's not due to being naive.
Tell me what makes Ferrara a pawn? He's a Yes man to what exactly?

Hmm,
-The fact that he is a non entity as coach (prestige wise) and owns us everything.
-The fact that he loves our club, he is personally implicated and would never harm it.
-The fact that he is an insignificant quantity as a manager (influence wise) and will obey without questions the orders/directions given to him. He doesnt have the influence, or the prestige, to make demands, he only accepted the job as it is, because thats the best offer he would ever get. If he has to make the ultimate sacrifice in the end and take all the blame, then so be it.
He had no prestige our credentials to lose. The very same things he shared with our previous coaches.
The very reason we chose him, instead of any other coach, who is any kind of proven quality and word in Italy.

Ferrara is the definition of a pawn, as DD and CR would never be.
Thats the reason we selected all of them, when DD tried to negociate that, he got the boot. We were intented to bring better managerial skills, just another pawn.
When the smiling new pawn failed, we have found a new quite fellow, destined to fail, just to keep things rolling a little bit more.

Even now, we are not ready for a change, they will keep him, of find a new pawn/scapegoat (Conte/Zenga)
How many more examples do you want to experience? A 4th one?
Alen, do you really thought that Ciro would be the new Pepe???
Do you find this more credible? C mon now...

With DD, its ok, there were hard times and our board needed the control.
With CR, he was an upgrade, at least on theory.
But now, we had no excuses!!
Absolutely no excuses, we had $, we had CL bait, tittle contender potential etc,
why didnt we brought a real manager this time?

 

[Alen]

Hmm,
-The fact that he is a non entity as coach (prestige wise) and owns us everything.
-The fact that he loves our club, he is personally implicated and would never harm it.
-The fact that he is an insignificant quantity as a manager (influence wise) and will obey without questions the orders/directions given to him. He doesnt have the influence, or the prestige, to make demands, he only accepted the job as it is, because thats the best offer he would ever get. If he has to make the ultimate sacrifice in the end and take all the blame, then so be it.
He had no prestige our credentials to lose. The very same things he shared with our previous coaches.
The very reason we chose him, instead of any other coach, who is any kind of proven quality and word in Italy.

But how does all this makes sense for you?
We spent more than 50m eur on transfers, what more could have Ferrara asked from the directors anyway?
Was some other coach going to ask for more than Diego, Melo, Grosso, Caceres and Cannavaro?
Mourinho asked for more players but Moratti told him that that's it. Mourinho publicly stated that Inter can not compete for the CL with this team and Moratti told him that he has to work with what he has.
Is Mourinho a pawn?

Why would our directors spend more than 50m on player A or player B instead of a player C and player D that the coach will ask for if we're gonna spend the same money?

What orders could the directors give to him? Will they tell him which formation to play or which players to use?

I really don't understand this.

 

[Linebreak]

Ferrara is to blame,

It was a shocking decision from management to put him there in the first place but he should have refused it.

He really has no idea on how to coach. His too young, the veteran players in the team don't look up to him, he's on their level, he's too nice for the rough world of Italian football, he didn't learn a thing from Lippi.

He must go this week.

 

[cyril]

Comparing players is worthless. Saddly as a team play inter > juventus...

 

[Alen]

why didnt we brought a real manager this time?

There are reasons for that. In the end, it's probably gonna be proven a mistake by the board, but I think they had their reasons.

Bringing a quality and famous manager was gonna mean NO Felipe Melo. Our budget is still limited and in order to bring Melo we even took money from next year's budget. Buying an expensive coach, paying for his wages (with taxes added) was gonna cost us almost the same as buying Felipe Melo, and we weren't gonna buy him.

But we did want to bring a more experienced manager. If you remember, Ferrara was the third choice and the first option was Spalletti. After trying to get him and after he rejected us (he probably regrets that decision now) we decided to keep Ferrara and spend the money on a quality player.
When Spalletti rejected us and we (probably) couldn't get another quality coach, we decided that we should at least make the team stronger with the money we had at our disposal.
We didn't get Ferrara because he's a pawn. We got him after we failed to get a quality coach and we decided to at least buy a good player.

It's a mistake that we didn't succeed in bringing a quality coach, but in no way our directors planned to get Ferrara only because he's a pawn.

 

[j0ker]

LB: Caceres<Maicon
CB: Chiellini = Lucio
RB: Grosso<Chivu
RCM: Sissoko< Muntari

LB, RB

 

[ßöмßäяðîëя]

Maicon is better, Chiellini is better, Chivu is better, and Sissoko is better.

 

[Wahdan]

I blame Burke.

 

[swag]

Maicon is better, Chiellini is better, Chivu is better, and Sissoko is better.

Just goes to show that the independent voice can be the most rational...

 

[JBF]

Blame the ref just like Ciro said

 

[Delle Alpi]

Our team is flat out bad and very unorganised on the pitch. The players look lost out there and have no idea what to do or where to be, I blame mainly ferrera 50% for our struggle and also the underperformance by many players 30% like amauri, diego, melo who are supposed to be the core strenght of the team. I won't blame average players like moli, tiago, and grosso because it;s not their problem, but the management 20% for buying such bad players.

P.S Killini with no legs is still better than this chump named lucio