The Official Juventus Future Plans Thread; "Consider yourself Juventus Sports Chief" (12 Viewers)

[Dominic]

I didn't hear from him in the past couple of weeks but I'll for sure try to gather any available information about that issue. As I think that Ljunberg is the real bargain.

Yes, Wenger hasn't counted on him since the start of this season with the arrival of Rosicky and the shining of Clichy.

Clichy plays leftback, while Ljungberg is a winger..

 

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[Ahmedios]

There is no official statement about transfer funds for next season yet, so you can forget your calculations.

This statement will come later.

Have you heard about a team that reveal its exact real transfer funds for a specific period? It is all a sort of assumptions. Even though, Secco said more than twice that the range of our funds would be between 35M and 40M euros, so I use nearly the average or the minimum. At the end, we lose nothing.

 

[Ahmedios]

Clichy plays leftback, while Ljungberg is a winger..

I know Dominic, I just wanted to say that he shares a lot in the attacking from the left side, thus he helps Rosicky in getting more inside the centre of the midfield.

 

[Marc]

Have you heard about a team that reveal its exact real transfer funds for a specific period? It is all a sort of assumptions. Even though, Secco said more than twice that the range of our funds would be between 35M and 40M euros, so I use nearly the average or the minimum. At the end, we lose nothing.

But our REAL transfer budget WILL be revealed in a month or two...

 

[Ahmedios]

But our REAL transfer budget WILL be revealed in a month or two...

£32M would be more than great, considering myself Alessio Secco , I can build a world class team to compete for everything with such an amount of money.

 

[Boudz]

Selling Trez would raise an approx 20M Euros, dont u think?

 

[Ahmedios]

Selling Trez would raise an approx 20M Euros, dont u think?

Absolutely. But unfortunately, his price has been decreased a lot since the last summer. For example, Lyon offered us £17M for his services in the summer but I heard that they are still willing to buy him but for just £10M. Actually, I think that amount of money would be enough to land either Toni or Klose.

 

[Boudz]

Forget Toni and Klose, Amauri is the real deal

 

[Ahmedios]

Forget Toni and Klose, Amauri is the real deal

But still Toni and Klose are well experienced strikers. I have another suggestion though; what about buying Toni, Amauri and Pizarro? In case, we don't complete the signing of Bojinov and also selling Zalayeta, Miccoli and Paolucci.

 

[Marc]

Toni, Amauro and Pizzaro? Overkill.

 

[Tobias]

Amauri naaah! His good but toni and klose are way better.

 

[Ahmedios]

Toni, Amauro and Pizzaro? Overkill.

So in that case, our front line will be consisting of: Del Piero, Toni, Palladino, Amauri and Pizzaro.

 

[Ahmedios]

Good, a part of my vision perhaps comes true, only in terms of selling.

The latest reports suggest that Gianluigi Buffon might remain with Juventus next season, while David Trezeguet and Mauro Camoranesi could leave, although Cobolli Gigli is aware that no player can be taken for granted.

Check the whole article here.

 

[tonykart]

Hmmm. If I was Juventus Sports Chief what would I do...

Our roster as of now:

GK: BUFFON
GK: MIRANTE

CB: KOVAC
CB: BOUMSONG
CB: LEGROTTAGLIE
CB: BIRINDELLI
CB: PICCOLO

SB: CHIELLINI
SB: ZEBINA
SB: GRYGERA
SB: BALZARETTI
SB: BARTOLUCCI

CMF: PARO
CMF: ZANETTI
CMF: GIANNICHEDDA
CMF: MARCHISIO

SMF: CAMORANESI
SMF: NEDVED
SMF: MARCHIONNI
SMF: SALIHAMSDZIC
SMF: DE CEGLIE

SS: DEL PIERO
SS: PALLADINO

CF: TREZEGUET
CF: ZALAYETA
CF: BOJINOV

The first consideration to me would be securing players I think are key to the teams future success.

BUFFON is the first person and the most important player I would try to keep. I would pay him what he wants and do everything to make sure he stays at Juventus.

TREZEGUET I would make a fair offer and tell him to take it or leave it. He has not shown great support for our club in the recent turmoil and a true member of the family always sticks with you even when your down. Unless his words were taken out of context, I don't beleive he will accept the fair offer.

CAMORANESI is a player that I would make a little more than fair offer to. I would put in a decent effort to keep him here because I think he is great on that right wing. However, if he wants to leave I wouldn't fight with him. I would let him walk if he really wanted. He is a great player, but we can't keep anyone against their will.

ZEBINA would get a modest offer. Take it or leave it. With Grygera's arrival he would be a backup and I don't think he would want that. I think a backup RB would be perfect for him, but I think he would reject that offer.

The next step would be players I would like to sell or even dump:

LEGROTTAGLIE if anyone wanted to buy him I would sell, sell, sell.

GIANNICHEDDA is an option to bring in a small chuck of change. He may not even be as valuable for us to sell him as it would be for us to keep him as a backup.

Then I would decide which players to loan out. Mostly youngster who I tihnk would benefit from more playing time on another squad that helping secure some depth.

PICCOLO
BARTOLUCCI
MARCHISIO
DE CEGLIE

Now the fun stuff. Who would I bring in.

Defense:

The single most important player to bring in next season is BARZAGLI. He would fit into the team like a glove and represents the Juventus way. BARZAGLI is the future of Italian defending and that is exactly the player that should be with us.

METZELDER is a free transfer and has very good physical attributes. I think he would play very well next to Barzagli in central defense.

CRISCITO would be an easy transfer and would be used as depth only.

Midfield:

I will start with the sides because I think that if we can keep camoranesi than we will be pretty stout.

With Camo on the right and Nedved on the left, Salihamdzic and Marchionni backing them up I think it is a very solid line up. The problem here is if Camo leaves because it will force us to start one of our bench players here. Sali is perfect coming off of the bench because he is so versatile. Even having him warm up on the sidelines could cause the opposing manager to question what we might do and where he may play. Eventually we will need depth outside and some say the RIBERY may be an option, but I don't think that this is an area where we should indulge just yet.

Our problems are in the central defense where we have a bright young talent in PARO, but he possibly isn't ready to be in charge of the midfield in serie a yet. EMERSON has hinted that he may come back and as nice as that would be to put a player like him next to Paro, I just don't think he would be worth the price. Zanetti is pretty good in the center, but not good enough to cover for the likes of Paro. Getting a player like Sissoko (injury prone), Mavuba (proven?), or Alou Diarra (tough enough?) would be the way to go. I think that we need a strong tackling, physical defensive midfielder to compensate for the finess tactical style of Paro.

I beleive Paro is the future of the CMF, but will need a very good player next to him. As it stands we have a rotation of Zanetti, Paro and Giannichedda in central mid and we need a savvy veteran like Gilberto or Emerson, or a really good youngster like the previously mentioned three.

At forward many people are talking about replacing Trezeguet. I beleive it will be tough to replace him because he fit our style so well and I believe he is making a mistake leaving, but he wants out so be it. I actually think our biggest problem will be finding a player to share time with Del Piero. Palladino isn't ready for that role yet and would be a player I would bring on only to get time in a lopsided game.

Perhaps keeping Bojinov would be beneficial. I am not sure how good he is at playmaking, but he is dangerous with the ball and has immense potential. I don't want to see him go.

I guess my point is that we can have any CF we want, but if DP goes down, or gets tired from the game to game grind in Serie A, then we have no comparable solution for filling the huge hole he leaves behind. We need a trequarista as it is a vital part of our team. I love Cassano's potential and don't want to get slammed for mentioning his name, but he is the only player in my mind that has the technique, playmaking skill, big game ability and superstar quality that could compliment Del Piero adequately. Cassano will be available and I know all about his attitude problems, but if he is sharing playing time with DP I don't think he will be a problem.

Now we move to CF where we have a big gap to fill in the wake of Trez's journey away from us. Who do we have on the current squad to fill his shoes? No one. My favorite option here would be Luca TONI. There are mixed feelings about him, but the bottom line is that the man scores the most goals in the toughest league to score goals year after year. He was a HUGE part of the azzurris succes and is a high profile, complete, inside the box CF. Toni and Del Piero is almost too much for other teams to handle.

PIZZARO is supposedly coming to us and he is a good player to bring off of the bench behind Toni and even start a few games, but couldn't be a full-time number one. As far as some other names that pop up on the board... Saviola (not coming, would be nice but too small for CF), Klose (good, but no Toni), Zigic (is not ready yet to be a true #1 striker in serie a), Gomez (not a #1), Kanoute (not even good enough to come off the bench in my opinion), and Huntelaar (who I think would struggle at Juve, and is also not a true #1). The only other option that I have heard people relate to a move to Juve would be Amauri. He has a lot of skill and can put the ball into the net. I would love to see him in the Juve shirt, but would prefer Toni to him.

So after I have done all this I would line them up in the typical Lippi style 4-4-1-1

BUFFON
GRYGERA - BARZAGLI - KOVAC - CHIELLINI
CAMORANESI - DIARRA - PARO - NEDVED
TONI - DEL PIERO

On the bench would be
MIRANTE
BOUMSONG
METZELDER
BALZARETTI
CRISCITO
ZANETTI
GIANNICHEDDA
SALIHAMDZIC
MARCHIONNI
PALLADINO
BOJINOV
PIZARRO

with

PICCOLO
BIRINDELLI
ZALAYETA

on a game to game basis

That is my take on it, what do you guys think... what would you do?

 

[Ahmedios]

@Tony, your squad will be competitive in Serie A and most of your transfers seem to be realistic. But there are two points of weakness in my point of view, in the centre midfield and on the left flank. I think that Paro is overrated or in other words we can't judge his abilities unless we watch him in Serie A and also Europe. Hence, I think that we are in an urgent need to buy a world class midfielder to partner Zanetti. The other point is the absence of a left winger who can be a backup to Nedved, as the season is too long for one player to play all the matches (Still Palladino a second striker not a true winger).

 

[Marc]

1. Kovač as a starter next season??
2. Your midfield still doesn´t have creativity.
3. Toni sucks.
4. Giannichedda is leaving.
5. We need to get rid of Zalayeta and Piccolo.

 

[tonykart]

@Tony, your squad will be competitive in Serie A and most of your transfers seem to be realistic. But there are two points of weakness in my point of view, in the centre midfield and on the left flank. I think that Paro is overrated or in other words we can't judge his abilities unless we watch him in Serie A and also Europe. Hence, I think that we are in an urgent need to buy a world class midfielder to partner Zanetti. The other point is the absence of a left winger who can be a backup to Nedved, as the season is too long for one player to play all the matches (Still Palladino a second striker not a true winger).

I agree completely.

My troubles were trying to weigh out the importance of a Left winger over a CMF. Bringing in one of the three (Diarra, Mavuba, Sissoko) or spending the money on a player like Ribery. In my opinion, with all the other holes we have, buying a left winger was the least important. We need one, and that is very true, but I feel that we can move a SB up if we need to, or shift Sali or Marchionni until the 2008 transfer window. Paro may be overrated, and that is why a nice shared playing time situation with Zanetti would be very good. Regardless, both of those players need a solid CMF next to them. One option is moving Nedved there and picking up a SMF, but it is not Nedved's best spot and would be extremely temporary due to his age. Perhaps picking up Mauro Esposito, or D'Agostino could be cheaper and pretty effective for next season.

 

[tonykart]

1. Kovač as a starter next season??
2. Your midfield still doesn´t have creativity.
3. Toni sucks.
4. Giannichedda is leaving.
5. We need to get rid of Zalayeta and Piccolo.

1. I would like to bring in Barzagli and Metzelder, but that would create virtually and entirely new back line. Kovac played for DD all last season and has familiarity. Bringing Metzelder in and out at first would be better than just throwing him in and casting Kovac aside. I agree with the comment to a point, but the other point is that I would like to keep something solid in that back line and Kovac and Chiellini have played a lot of minutes together.

2. The midfield is a weakness, especially if Camo leaves. We have serious trouble in the CMF and are very thin on the left wing. My opinion is that we have 3places where we need to spend big money and Buffon and Del Piero are going to cost us as well. I would rather bring in a proven commodity at CB because defense is the most important thing, then replace Trezeguet. I guess I ranked Mid-Field third because with a good defensive mindset out of the center guys and some small bit of light out of Paro and we might be able to make it to the Jan 2008transfer window in ok shape. My suggestions of Diarra, Mavuba or Sissoko I don't think were off the wall.

3. Toni sucks? That is just ignorant. And that is all I will say... the comment is simply foolish.

4. I didn't know Giannichedda was leaving, perhaps we need to find a good backup defensive midfielder to replace him. But, we need to conserve some money.

5. We should get rid of them, but at this point they would be better off on the team as backups than turned into money and sold. We will need depth next year and can't trade everybody and start the season with a new team. Zalayeta and Piccolo are ineffective, but if the need arrises they could fill in a gap here or there. Neither are exceptional, but they are decently versatile.

That is some defense for my actions.

 

[Ahmedios]

I agree completely.

My troubles were trying to weigh out the importance of a Left winger over a CMF. Bringing in one of the three (Diarra, Mavuba, Sissoko) or spending the money on a player like Ribery. In my opinion, with all the other holes we have, buying a left winger was the least important. We need one, and that is very true, but I feel that we can move a SB up if we need to, or shift Sali or Marchionni until the 2008 transfer window. Paro may be overrated, and that is why a nice shared playing time situation with Zanetti would be very good. Regardless, both of those players need a solid CMF next to them. One option is moving Nedved there and picking up a SMF, but it is not Nedved's best spot and would be extremely temporary due to his age. Perhaps picking up Mauro Esposito, or D'Agostino could be cheaper and pretty effective for next season.

We can search for a free side midfielder, Ljunberg would be on a free agents by the summer. There is a point here as well, even Diarra, Mavuba and Sissoko can't help us solving the problem of lackness of midfieldis creativity, as all of them are defensive midfielders. I think that any of them maybe a proper backup to Zanetti or a replacement of Zanetti. Thus buying Ljunberg, a cheap defensive midfielder and a world class winger like Ribery would solve all our midfield's problems.

Also, I agree with you about moving Nedved to the centre especially in the presence of versatile side backs but the point here is the age factor. So, the fairest solution is buying a promising centre midfield like Gilberto Silva.

 

[Marc]

So, the fairest solution is buying a promising centre midfield like Gilberto Silva.

Gilberto Silva is 30 years old.