The Official Dario Knezevic Thread (8 Viewers)

[Bjerknes]

Look, if we had four centerbacks, I wouldn't say anything about this transfer. But that's not the case. We already have enough players for that position on the roster. So if what we need is quality, why should we not question this? Cuz it doesn't make any sense.

 

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[Alen]

What's irritating about this signing is that we won't be getting our world class immediate starter CB.
We all hoped we'll get a great CB and a LB and these latest statements by Blanc and the latest addition in the CB department kill the last hope we had for world class defensers.

As for Knezevic, he's ok, much better than people give him credit for, but hardly an improvement on what we already have.
The reasons why we're signing a 5th CB are obvious. We'll need a 5th CB only in case we'll find ourselves in last year's situation when we didn't have a single CB to play Inter in Coppa so we had to use Boumsong in the first leg and get Stendardo on loan for the second match.
But getting a 5th cb indicates that we're set already in this position and few can be satisfied with what we have there.
Last year we did have the 2nd best defense in serie A but it says nothing because we conceded 37 goals, which is a huge number for a team like Juve.
Hopefully everything will be allright and our defense will do the job in CL and serie A but there aren't many reasons to hope for a major improvement over what we had last year and what didn't satisfy the Juventini who are used to top defense by their team.

 

[Bjerknes]

Grygera will play AS RIGHT BACK. Why is this so hard to get?

Grygera doesnt need to be counted for CB and will not, because he will play RB, Andrade is a one legged due who has played 4 games in almost a year. So our CBs are Legro, Chiellini and Mellberg only, while competing in 3 competitions, so why isnt Knezevic needed as backup?

We don't know who will play right-back, but if we go with the past it means Zebina will. Andrade will be back to being able to play as backup so I don't buy your argument.

 

[Bjerknes]

What's irritating about this signing is that we won't be getting our world class immediate starter CB.
We all hoped we'll get a great CB and a LB and these latest statements by Blanc and the latest addition in the CB department kill the last hope we had for world class defensers.

As for Knezevic, he's ok, much better than people give him credit for, but hardly an improvement on what we already have.
The reasons why we're signing a 5th CB are obvious. We'll need a 5th CB only in case we'll find ourselves in last year's situation when we didn't have a single CB to play Inter in Coppa so we had to use Boumsong in the first leg and get Stendardo on loan for the second match.
But getting a 5th cb indicates that we're set already in this position and few can be satisfied with what we have there.
Last year we did have the 2nd best defense in serie A but it says nothing because we conceded 37 goals, which is a huge number for a team like Juve.
Hopefully everything will be allright and our defense will do the job in CL and serie A but there aren't many reasons to hope for a major improvement over what we had last year and what didn't satisfy the Juventini who are used to top defense by their team.

Exactly. Just another backup which confirms we won't get any more quality back there.

 

[Osman]

If he starts or not, he will play as RB together with Zebina, just like last season. So no, Grygera isnt counted as CB. He is just one of 2 rightbacks we have.


Andrade is finished, I would be very suprised if he would contribute with much of anything.

 

[Bjerknes]

Oh, so Grygera isn't counted as a CB because we all know he won't play there yet he declares that CB is where he likes to play and can play there.

Interesting.

Guess that means Nedved can't play attacking midfielder because he declares he likes the left wing.

 

[Cronios]

dobrodosao dario..

now we have 5 CBs.. Chiellini, Mellberg, Andrade, Legro and Dario... also grygera can play cb.. and marquez agent told juve to buy marquez.. omg

I think if we use them all together, we might have a chance against CL material forwards, that unless if they are not all injured...:burke:


O well ,welcome Dario:scarf:

 

[Osman]

Are you like this naturally or is it an act? Why the heck does it matter what he declares himself as when he is a fullback in our books and pretty much allways plays there? Is it Grygera who decides where he plays? (and he said his original position is CB, but both in Ajax and with the Czechs, he played RB).


Yeah very good with the nedved analogy. You should really improve on your weak sarcasm.

 

[Luca]

I think for his own sake Grygera will ask to play right back next season because he will know himself that he will get more games there. He was great as a RB for czech rep at the euro's.

But yeah Andy I see the point you are trying to make, a player can play more than one position

 

[Bjerknes]

Are you like this naturally or is it an act? Why the heck does it matter what he declares himself as when he is a fullback in our books and pretty much allways plays there? Is it Grygera who decides where he plays?


Yeah very good with the nedved analogy. You should really improve on your weak sarcasm.

Apparently you don't understand the fact that a player can play multiple positions and if he can play there, he can be listed as someone who can play there. And yes, Grygera has played there and since he has played CB for a long time in his career, he should be listed as someone who is available for that position.

Ya understand what I said there? There there there.

 

[JCK]

Now why shouldn't Grygera play? Because God Ranieri benched him? How about giving that guy a new lease on life after his first season with Juve and a great Euro tournament?

But nah, lets not do that, lets just sign useless backups and call it a success.

Grygera played a good EURO tournament as a right back and he gained some of his form by the end of the season on the flank and we all saw how horrible he was at the center. This is why he'll play on one of the sides, hopefully instead of Molinaro.

 

[Bjerknes]

Grygera played a good EURO tournament as a right back and he gained some of his form by the end of the season on the flank and we all saw how horrible he was at the center. This is why he'll play on one of the sides, hopefully instead of Molinaro.

Well I hope we can still get someone to play left-back but who knows, might not happen.

 

[Luca]

Grygera played a good EURO tournament as a right back and he gained some of his form by the end of the season on the flank and we all saw how horrible he was at the center. This is why he'll play on one of the sides, hopefully instead of Molinaro.

some of his crossing was exceptional

 

[Osman]

Apparently you don't understand the fact that a player can play multiple positions and if he can play there, he can be listed as someone who can play there. And yes, Grygera has played there and since he has played CB for a long time in his career, he should be listed as someone who is available for that position.

Ya understand what I said there? There there there.

Seriously...

I seem to have forgot, you are the only soul in the world who somehow thinks Grygera's performance as CB in the occasions he has filled in for us there was good? When he was a walking disaster who was beyond error prone in pretty much every attempt, doesnt know the meaning of the word positioning.

Only thing he has done for the CB spot was write himself off it. He is a fullback, and thats where he will play.

 

[JCK]

Well I hope we can still get someone to play left-back but who knows, might not happen.

I hope so too, this way we will see less of Sali and Marchionni and the rest of the below-par bunch.

some of his crossing was exceptional

Yes they were, he has been on an improving curve ever since his game where he played as left back.

 

[Bjerknes]

Seriously...

I seem to have forgot, you are the only soul in the world who somehow thinks Grygera's performance as CB in the occasions he has filled in for us there was good? When he was a walking disaster who was beyond error prone in pretty much every attempt, doesnt know the meaning of the word positioning.

Only thing he has done for the CB spot was write himself off it. He is a fullback, and thats where he will play.

He played two good games back there at least, one in which we won 5-0. Then he was benched, much like Tiago. Grygera also had poor games as a CB, but he certainly was okay in that 5-0 win against Empoli I think it was.

 

[Cronios]

And btw guys, its not Dario's fault, the rest of our defense sux so much, they guy has some dreams to fulfill, i wish him all the best and i hope he will not disappoint us.
Lets not bash him for somebody else's fault!
Although our managers keep making the same mistakes and all my fears materialize one by one.
I really hope for the shake of Juve that one of their decision will be proved to buy a right one, even if it isnt a wise one.
Knezevic seem to be a risky move, IMO this is the last thing we needed, i ve been saying this by the day we confirmed Mellberg, almost a year now,
i m so tired of this, i hope God will be merciful and punish our unwise choices...

 

[Osman]

We didnt win 5-0 against Empoli, it was Palermo (Empoli 3-0 with trez hattrick). Empoli didnt attack us even once in that write off win, so the defenders didnt do anything but stand there.

First of all, Grygera had very few good or even acceptable peformances most of the season. He was even poor as an RB which is where he plays (which is yet to prove he deserves to start, because Zebina superior to him last season), let alone how horrible he was the few times he played in CB. General input was lame most of the season (caught out of position so many times it stopped being funny), he only improved a little after he had the great game against Genoa. And he had already stopped playing CB by then because he was disastrous there, and because those he was filling in for were back.

 

[Paolo Sosa]

who r the available WC CB right now ?
just don't tell me Zapata,, he is not ready yet, he may also miss the begining of the season i think he broke his jew.
i'd rather sign these temporary CB until our Criscito gain some more confident

 

[Mark]

They took Knezevic so that Andrade takes it easy and comes back in the team in top shape. If Andrade comes back 100% then Knezevic will go back to Livorno. No need to cry over this deal.