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[Bianconero81]

He could have sunk a few more FTs for sure.

The Bucks folded, and I have no idea why. In both games 4 and 5, they had big leads heading into the 4th, and they just allowed those leads to evaporate.

 

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[Enron]

Playoff Jimmy is different.

 

[Firestarter]

Based Giannis

 

[Bianconero81]

Provocative dumbass journalist. Why ask the same fucking question again?!

You can tell Giannis is frustrated AF because he practically missed 3 games. Had he been healthy the entire series, the outcome could have been very different.

Anyway, it's probably going to be Celtics vs Heat in the East Finals.

 

[Nzoric]

I know very little about basketball, but people telling me that if Jokic keeps this up he is goat material. Honest question; is he that good?


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[Enron]

He’s pretty good. Definitely one of the top big mean in the league. Needs titles to enter “goat” conversation.

 

[Nzoric]

He’s pretty good. Definitely one of the top big mean in the league. Needs titles to enter “goat” conversation.

He’s 27, so he needs to have a Jordan decade from now on. Is the Denver team good enough to win titles?


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[ALC]

Provocative dumbass journalist. Why ask the same fucking question again?!

You can tell Giannis is frustrated AF because he practically missed 3 games. Had he been healthy the entire series, the outcome could have been very different.

Anyway, it's probably going to be Celtics vs Heat in the East Finals.

don’t sleep on the sixers, we’re better than the Celtics. Plus Celtics need to make it past Atlanta first

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He’s 27, so he needs to have a Jordan decade from now on. Is the Denver team good enough to win titles?


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he won’t be on Jordan/lebron level just because he can’t dominate games, is too slow, not much of a scorer, not atheltic, etc. But will put his name up as one of the most unique passing big men. Definitely an all time great

 

[JuveJay]

I know very little about basketball, but people telling me that if Jokic keeps this up he is goat material. Honest question; is he that good?


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No, but he's quite unique in his skillset.

 

[Enron]

He’s 27, so he needs to have a Jordan decade from now on. Is the Denver team good enough to win titles?


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They’re the top seed in the Western conference this year, so they definitely have a shot.

 

[Firestarter]

Jimmy is insane lmao — funny clip. @Osman

'Jeff Teague talks about the infamous Minnesota practice where Butler beats the starters with third stringers (from Club 520 Podcast)'

 

[zizinho]

I know very little about basketball, but people telling me that if Jokic keeps this up he is goat material. Honest question; is he that good?


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Offensively, he's the most talented center of all time. Can score from anywhere, create his own shot, can create open looks for others, court vision and passing amongst the best of all time. Basically put the ball in his hands and you have an elite offense regardless of who else is playing with him. Now defensively he's not that good, he's not bad or terrible, but he doesn't have the athletic ability, mainly speed, quickness and length to be elite on that side. He can have good defensive possessions on his IQ, instincts and read of the game, but he won't ever be great on defense imo.

Since GOAT conversations will always depend on championships, individual awards and stats besides his play, he has a way to go to reach there. He won't ever be GOAT, Jordan just has way too much going his way. But he has the talent to be a top10 player ever, even without the elite defense (Magic Johnson being a prime example that it's possible), and he has time to get it as he's "only" 28. But as I said, he will need multiple championships and more elite seasons to enter that conversation. Not impossible

 

[ALC]

Offensively, he's the most talented center of all time. Can score from anywhere, create his own shot, can create open looks for others, court vision and passing amongst the best of all time. Basically put the ball in his hands and you have an elite offense regardless of who else is playing with him. Now defensively he's not that good, he's not bad or terrible, but he doesn't have the athletic ability, mainly speed, quickness and length to be elite on that side. He can have good defensive possessions on his IQ, instincts and read of the game, but he won't ever be great on defense imo.

Since GOAT conversations will always depend on championships, individual awards and stats besides his play, he has a way to go to reach there. He won't ever be GOAT, Jordan just has way too much going his way. But he has the talent to be a top10 player ever, even without the elite defense (Magic Johnson being a prime example that it's possible), and he has time to get it as he's "only" 28. But as I said, he will need multiple championships and more elite seasons to enter that conversation. Not impossible

Bruh wtf. You got Wilt, Kareem, Shaq, Duncan, and arguably others as better offensively. I’d argue even Embiid is better in offense as he is a better shooter.

jokic has a unique skill set and provides amazing assists but his scoring is not that great.

 

[zizinho]

Bruh wtf. You got Wilt, Kareem, Shaq, Duncan, and arguably others as better offensively. I’d argue even Embiid is better in offense as he is a better shooter.

jokic has a unique skill set and provides amazing assists but his scoring is not that great.

Name one with the same footwork, touch around the basket, handle, shooting from all ranges, off the dribble, catch and shots, court vision and every pass you can think off. Scoring isnt that great? Are you for real?

 

[Bianconero81]

Name one with the same footwork, touch around the basket, handle, shooting from all ranges, off the dribble, catch and shots, court vision and every pass you can think off. Scoring isnt that great? Are you for real?

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Jimmy is insane lmao — funny clip. @Osman

'Jeff Teague talks about the infamous Minnesota practice where Butler beats the starters with third stringers (from Club 520 Podcast)'

KAT is soft - he's a bonafide pussy. The dude is talented, but he's never going to be an elite level player in my book.

 

[zizinho]

Playoffs all time:
Jokic 26.4ppg (15th all time)
Kareem 24.3ppg
Shaq 24.3ppg
Embiid 23.8ppg
Wilt 22.5ppg
Duncan 20.6ppg
Arguably others, below 25.9ppg which is Hakeem

Only one above Jokic who's a center (actually a PF but a center nowadays) is Davis at 26.7ppg. Davis is also the only one with a higher TS% than Jokic, who is 11th all time in playoff TS%. You wanna say he's not much of a scorer because of his "low" regular season ppg career average, which is unfair considering the guy was a 2nd round pick (40something?) and it took him 3 seasons to develop and become an all star. Now if you wanna talk playmaking abilities, the others aren't even in the same ballpark compared to Jokic

 

[Post Ironic]

Jokic never gonna come close to being Kareem’s level lol. 2nd greatest player of all time. Jokic will be lucky if he cracks top-25 all time when it’s all said and done.

 

[Bianconero81]

If we consider Timmy D a PF, the top centers are Kareem, Wilt, Hakeem, Shaq, and the late great Bill Russel. I don't see Jokic coming close to threatening that hegemony, not even if he wins 3 titles (which he won't).

 

[zizinho]

Jokic never gonna come close to being Kareem’s level lol. 2nd greatest player of all time. Jokic will be lucky if he cracks top-25 all time when it’s all said and done.

Kareem is not the 2nd greatest of all time, but that's another topic. And no one said Jokic will surpass him. If you read what's actually written, "offensively most talented center of all time" doesn't mean what you said. If you think Kareem got the more complete game offensively, then show it. Never gonna come close means Kareem is levels above, so let's see it

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If we consider Timmy D a PF, the top centers are Kareem, Wilt, Hakeem, Shaq, and I don't see Jokic that hegemony, not even if he wins 3 titles (which he won't).

Wilt has "only" 2 though, Hakeem too

 

[Post Ironic]

Kareem is not the 2nd greatest of all time, but that's another topic. And no one said Jokic will surpass him. If you read what's actually written, "offensively most talented center of all time" doesn't mean what you said. If you think Kareem got the more complete game offensively, then show it. Never gonna come close means Kareem is levels above, so let's see it

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Wilt has "only" 2 though, Hakeem too

Kareem is 100% the second greatest player of all time.

Of course Jokic is a better passer so he’s a more well-rounded/complete offensive player. But being a more well-rounded/complete offensive player doesn’t make him anywhere near the dominant, unstoppable force Kareem was. Nor prime Shaq for that matter.