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ZoSo

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Jul 11, 2011
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OFC, I like Kobe, he has the most complete offensive skillset in the history of the NBA, i love his workethic and his desire to always be the best, I don't like what he's doing right now, chasing personnal accolades and individual recognision over team success, because if he wanted to win, he'll give the keys to that Laker team to Andrew.

As for the numbers, if you are talking about yesterday game, here they are:

A. Bynum 37min 12-14 FG 9-12 FT 11 Assist 5TO and 2 BS

Bynum season number:

36min FG% 57.8 FT% 66.2 RPG 12.9 APG 1.5 SPG 0.5 BPG 2.0 TO 2.5 PPG 18.1
:rolleyes: Just to name two, MJ and T-Mac at their peaks (MJ for most of his career) were better than Kobe at his best.
 

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KB824

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Cheese, I knew what Bynum's numbers were before I asked. I was just trying to make a point that it is high time that Bynum become the first option, and Kobe start deferring more often. It happens to everyone, Kobe. Well, not MJ, because quite frankly, MJ was much much better than you.
 

Cheesio

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:rolleyes: Just to name two, MJ and T-Mac at their peaks (MJ for most of his career) were better than Kobe at his best.
Offensively, Kobe has a more complete offensive game than MJ and Tmac ( Mcgrady is my favourite player ever), The post up, the midrange game, the ballhandling and the one thing he heas over MJ is his range, Kobe can shoot from anywhere. I know that MJ is the better player but Kobe is the more dangerous scorer.


Cheese, I knew what Bynum's numbers were before I asked. I was just trying to make a point that it is high time that Bynum become the first option, and Kobe start deferring more often. It happens to everyone, Kobe. Well, not MJ, because quite frankly, MJ was much much better than you.
Agree with you, it's about time kobe start feeding Andrew more, he has the best Frontcourt tandem in the NBA but he's still shoot way too much, it's down to Mike Brown now tough, if the Lakers got their eyes on the big prize, they should start running the offence through bynum.
 

ZoSo

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Jul 11, 2011
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nononono have you ever seen Jordan play??????? Jordan is by far the most dangerous player ever. It's not even debatable. Post-up, are you kidding me? Jordan didn't even need a post game, he'd just jump from the free throw line and jam it on anyone's head. IMO when it came to game time, he fired up to an extra level and was the most athletic bball player ever. You watch some of his dunks and somehow mid-dunk he manages to somehow move up an extra level mid-air, it's ridiculous what he could do. Kobe was pretty damn athletic but Michael was just superhuman. The post game is probably closer but Jordan had the explosive first step to take him to the ring every time, mid-range, Jordan 100% (not to mention Jordan career FG% is .497 compared to Kobe's .453 and Jordan having slightly worse career 3PG%). I'm sorry but Kobe has just about nothing over Jordan besides maybe the 3 point game but come clutch time Jordan stepped regardless of the range.

Jordan>>>>>>>>>>>>>>anyone

When that tongue came out you knew shit was gonna go down :D
 

Cheesio

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nononono have you ever seen Jordan play??????? Jordan is by far the most dangerous player ever. It's not even debatable. Post-up, are you kidding me? Jordan didn't even need a post game, he'd just jump from the free throw line and jam it on anyone's head. IMO when it came to game time, he fired up to an extra level and was the most athletic bball player ever. You watch some of his dunks and somehow mid-dunk he manages to somehow move up an extra level mid-air, it's ridiculous what he could do. Kobe was pretty damn athletic but Michael was just superhuman. The post game is probably closer but Jordan had the explosive first step to take him to the ring every time, mid-range, Jordan 100% (not to mention Jordan career FG% is .497 compared to Kobe's .453 and Jordan having slightly worse career 3PG%). I'm sorry but Kobe has just about nothing over Jordan besides maybe the 3 point game but come clutch time Jordan stepped regardless of the range.

Jordan>>>>>>>>>>>>>>anyone

When that tongue came out you knew shit was gonna go down :D
:D

I know that Jordan is the best player ever, the GOAT, the clutchest player throughout history, but the thing you must understand is that Kobe offensive repertoire is more complete than MJ, It's like saying that Carmelo is the better scorer than Lerbron, does it make him better than him ?? No.

The other points you made about MJ, i agree with you bar that he's the most athletic player ever, It's either Wilt or Lebron.
 

ZoSo

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Jul 11, 2011
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:D

I know that Jordan is the best player ever, the GOAT, the clutchest player throughout history, but the thing you must understand is that Kobe offensive repertoire is more complete than MJ, It's like saying that Carmelo is the better scorer than Lerbron, does it make him better than him ?? No.

The other points you made about MJ, i agree with you bar that he's the most athletic player ever, It's either Wilt or Lebron.
nononono I know what you're saying but it's wrong!!!!

ok I forgot about Wilt either him or Jordan but Lebron...come on, no way. Maybe statistically Lebron can jump a little higher vertically but there are things that Jordan did in the air that you can't even explain. Literally superhuman.
 

Cheesio

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nononono I know what you're saying but it's wrong!!!!

ok I forgot about Wilt either him or Jordan but Lebron...come on, no way. Maybe statistically Lebron can jump a little higher vertically but there are things that Jordan did in the air that you can't even explain. Literally superhuman.
You are wrong buddy,

And it's not about jumping, Lebron combination of size, strength, quickness, speed, he is off the charts in terms of pure physical traits. He is the tantamount physical specimen.
bron is 260 6'8 that is coordinated and runs like a point guard but stronger than most power forwards.
 

ZoSo

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Jul 11, 2011
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You are wrong buddy,

And it's not about jumping, Lebron combination of size, strength, quickness, speed, he is off the charts in terms of pure physical traits. He is the tantamount physical specimen.
bron is 260 6'8 that is coordinated and runs like a point guard but stronger than most power forwards.
Jordan had something else. The game today is a lot weaker. You can't sit in the lane as long and Jordan had to play against guys like Mutombo, Olajuwon, Shaq in his prime, Karl Malone, Kemp, Ewing, Robinson, Barkley etc. And don't even bother about quickness, no one ever had an explosive first step like MJ.
 

Cheesio

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Jordan had something else. The game today is a lot weaker. You can't sit in the lane as long and Jordan had to play against guys like Mutombo, Olajuwon, Shaq in his prime, Karl Malone, Kemp, Ewing, Robinson, Barkley etc. And don't even bother about quickness, no one ever had an explosive first step like MJ.
That's another subject, thought we was talking about athleticism :p

Lebron is unique athleticism wise.
 

ZoSo

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Jul 11, 2011
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Well in terms of size and strength yeah. Speed maybe too but quickness doubt it. Jordan was much more agile and had much better body control and could jump higher too. Doubt Lebron could ever jump from the free throw line. Lebron doesn't seem to sit in the air for years like Jordan did either. Lebron chickened out for the slam dunk contest too.
 

Cheesio

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Jul 11, 2006
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Well in terms of size and strength yeah. Speed maybe too but quickness doubt it. Jordan was much more agile and had much better body control and could jump higher too. Doubt Lebron could ever jump from the free throw line. Lebron doesn't seem to sit in the air for years like Jordan did either. Lebron chickened out for the slam dunk contest too.
Everyone has his opinion :hi:

Glad to talk basketball with you ;)
 

Cheesio

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Who's opinion is true, mine or yours ??

Cause all i see in those links is people like us debating with some chosing MJ and other chosing Bron.

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and i see a lot of them judging athleticism by comparing dunks, hang time..; James white could do a between the legs dunk from the free throw line, Gerald Green could jumb 40+Inch and both couldn't stay in the league. There's much more to athleticism than Jumping. You could make a case that Shaq was the most athletic player ever because no one of his size and weight could run the floor like he did earlier in his career.
 

Enron

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Oct 11, 2005
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Well, it's official. The Rockets did what LA was too chicken shit to do. They let Derek Fisher go. Good to that guy. He deserves one last shot.
 

KB824

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Well, it's official. The Rockets did what LA was too chicken shit to do. They let Derek Fisher go. Good to that guy. He deserves one last shot.
They couldn't just "Let him Go", Aaron. His contract would have still been on the books for this year and next if they did that. It's not that easy.
 

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