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JCK

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JCK
May 11, 2004
125,395
Azzurri7 said:
Why can't you see it Happen? as I said, Syrians are running behind that agreement with Israeli's the same with Palestinians, why should Lebanon be the only country in the middle east to KEEP on fighting???? Let each one free his OWN land.

Thats not right. Israeli's never provoked the Palestinians-Lebanese Problem. Never. Palestinians refugees were given the green light to stay in our country thats because they had no else where to live. Untill, they started fighting with Israeli's from a LAND that doesn't belong to them but to Lebanese. The point is, after all the good we did with them, they even want to fight the Israeli's from a land that doesn't belong to them, killing lot of Lebanese civilians.

The Lebanes civil war started because of Arafat and his refugees. No one can deny that.
Well said Rab. I don't understand why Syrians and Palestinians are draging Lebanon to fight their own cause. It really makes me sick.
 

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Snoop

Sabet is a nasty virgin
Oct 2, 2001
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I agree with Jeeks about the Peace with Israel, this bullshit of Arab vs Israel should end, Lebanon is a small country all surrounded by Syria, and Syria abused that a lot, the only neigbour that Lebanon has other than Syria is Israel, so why not to make Peace? Peace will make the both sides winner, Economically Lebanon is fucked up thanx to Syria, so yeah, Peace with Israel is the best thing to do..
 

Muha

The Head Physio
Feb 25, 2004
1,546
Azzurri7 said:
Why can't you see it Happen? as I said, Syrians are running behind that agreement with Israeli's the same with Palestinians, why should Lebanon be the only country in the middle east to KEEP on fighting???? Let each one free his OWN land.
Egypt and Jordan signed a treaty with Isreal .. what did they get in exchange.. (economicly i mean).. nothing ... Egypt's economy is screwrd up like never before and jordon is dumped in depts... Lebanon will face the same destiny.... Fighting might not be the answer to all of Lebanon's problems .. but believe me a treaty with Israel will not be heaven either.... Combining with other arab countries is the solution ... Hezbuallah should be left alone for now.. Lebanon should focus on its economy rather than focus on whether hezbulla should be disarmed or not ..
 

Muha

The Head Physio
Feb 25, 2004
1,546
Jeeks said:
Really?? What about the Palestinian camps in Lebanon that are stuffed with arms and no authority can go in there?

What about Arafat's decision to fight Israel from Lebanon?

What about Palestinians starting the Lebanese civil war?

Puuuurrrleeeeez!! If you are pro-Palestinian, try not to close an eye to what they did to Lebanon.
thats history.. Lebanon can move on... lets leave the palestinian- lebanese problem aside and look for unity... i honestly think that Jumblat for example is not doing lebanon any good by accusing every lebanese muslim of not working for the good of lebanon... Lebanese should leave their ethnic diversity aside and focus on their economy... corruption and Wasta are things that should be terminated not Hezbullah...

Jeeks, im not pro palestinian or pro lebanese.. im just saying my opinion..
 

Muha

The Head Physio
Feb 25, 2004
1,546
snoop said:
I agree with Jeeks about the Peace with Israel, this bullshit of Arab vs Israel should end, Lebanon is a small country all surrounded by Syria, and Syria abused that a lot, the only neigbour that Lebanon has other than Syria is Israel, so why not to make Peace? Peace will make the both sides winner, Economically Lebanon is fucked up thanx to Syria, so yeah, Peace with Israel is the best thing to do..
the syrian regime sucks , i know.... but that doesn't mean that the lebanese should make friends with israel to overcome their "syrian occupation"....
 

JCK

Biased
JCK
May 11, 2004
125,395
Muha said:
the syrian regime sucks , i know.... but that doesn't mean that the lebanese should make friends with israel to overcome their "syrian occupation"....
Why not? It is all for the better. It sucks that I can reach the border but I am not allowed to cross it.
 

Azzurri7

Pinturicchio
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Dec 16, 2003
72,692
Muha said:
Egypt and Jordan signed a treaty with Isreal .. what did they get in exchange.. (economicly i mean).. nothing ... Egypt's economy is screwrd up like never before and jordon is dumped in depts... Lebanon will face the same destiny.... Fighting might not be the answer to all of Lebanon's problems .. but believe me a treaty with Israel will not be heaven either.... Combining with other arab countries is the solution ... Hezbuallah should be left alone for now.. Lebanon should focus on its economy rather than focus on whether hezbulla should be disarmed or not ..

Egypt is screwed up because of what's going INSIDE the country, Israeli has nothing to do with this. To me, Egypt's problem is Husni Mubarak(who has been now for over 25years in his chair and soon his son to replace him). Thats what is actually taking Arab countries back and back. Not having Democratic regime and only to care about their own chairs will surely drive the country into worse. So again I don't see what Israeli's gotta do with Egypt's problem.

About Jordan.

I can actually see this country Improving, not that much but atleast better than other arab countries. Economicaly they seem to be okay.

My point about making Peace with Israeli's isn't only about Countries Economy but also to get over something call "Fighting". Till when people supposed to keep fighting Israeli's??? till when people are supposed to put this into their brain and that is we should erase them??? Lets talk some facts here my friend...This will NEVER happen. So why not make peace with them when you got country such as Palestine is WILLING to do peace with them. Why shouldn't we?
 

Azzurri7

Pinturicchio
Moderator
Dec 16, 2003
72,692
Muha said:
thats history.. Lebanon can move on... lets leave the palestinian- lebanese problem aside and look for unity... i honestly think that Jumblat for example is not doing lebanon any good by accusing every lebanese muslim of not working for the good of lebanon... Lebanese should leave their ethnic diversity aside and focus on their economy... corruption and Wasta are things that should be terminated not Hezbullah...

Jeeks, im not pro palestinian or pro lebanese.. im just saying my opinion..

I don't know what Walid Beck aka Jumblat has to do with this but I'm yet to see him criticizing muslim people as you're trying to say. I'm not aware of that. I'm aware of him bashing and criticizing Hezzeb Allah, and he has all the right to do that. Asking them to withdraw their weapon, asking for Lebanese Army, and not to forget that he's an anti-syrian something that doesn't suit Hezzeb Allah.

But to get back to your point,

To start a new chapter and focus on our economy we should....

1-Make Peace with Israel
2-Withdraw Hezzeb Allah's weapon
3-Hezzeb Allah as a regime to be broke down due to their connections with Iran and Syria.
4-Let the investigation continue about (Hariri), this way we can atleast see these people punished and to be a lesson for everyone.
5-All the pro-syrians in Lebanon should be kicked out.

and so on.
 

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