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Martin

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Why I ditched my Mac for Linux
Filed under: Me Talking — Bryan O'Bryan @ 11:53 pm

Based on the title of this treatise of mine you are, likely, safe in your assumption that I am about to tell you all, using the bestest words my mind can muster, why I stopped using MacOS X and switched over to Linux.

Now, there have been a few other various blog postings along a similar vein as this and, by no means, do I wish do beat a dead horse (unless said horse is into that sort of thing). But I have a sneaking suspicion that this will prove itself of interest to some of you.

Let me start by schooling you on the topic of myself, so that you can best understand the points I’m attempting to make.

I have used many operating systems in my day. A few of my personal favorites include OS/2 Warp 3 (Warp 4 just didn’t do it for me), OpenStep and AmigaOS 3 (gotta love that Workbench). Some might call me an “OS Whore”. I prefer to think of it as being “Technologically Agnostic”.

That is, until Apple purchased NeXT and released the original iMac. I fell in love. Sure I had used Macs before, but I’d never really lusted after one. From the day that original iMac came out… I was hooked. Sure, it was an, arguable, underpowered machine… but just… LOOK at it.

And that changed the next several years of my life. I sharpened my development chops under MacOS X Server 1.0 (before it had that “Aqua” look and feel) and, a few years back, quit my day job and started a Mac-specific software company. Over the last few years I have poured my heart and soul into developing, supporting and marketing software for MacOS X. This is how I have paid the bills. This consumed the bulk of my waking hours.

Recently (as in, within the last few months) myself and a good friend took over the operations of a rather popular (and long lasting) Mac-specific theme-ing / modding website known as ResExcellence.com. The previous owner was going to close it down, so the opportunity came up for us to take it over.

I was crazy excited. I was at the apex of Mac geeky-ness. I ran a known Mac software company, hosted a big Mac website. I was all Mac.

So why, with all this glorious Mac-ness around me, would I drop it all and switch to Linux? Well that, my friends, is a good question.

Allow me to break my reasoning down into a few key points:

1) The Mac Community

It has been my experience that the Mac “community” (ie, the most vocal and active of the Macintosh enthusiast and power users) tend to be incredibly negative and expect much more than they deserve.

Now, I know how that sounds. It sounds like I’m being a big cry-baby. That some Mac users was mean to me so I’m whining about it. Well, I may be whining a bit… but I’m not the only one who’s noticed this…

Through my Mac adventures over the years I have come to know many Mac “celebrities”. Webmasters and editors of some of the bigger Mac websites and developers of some of the most popular Mac third party software. (I’m not going to name names as that would adversely affect many individuals ability to make a living.) And many have noticed the same thing.

It’s almost amazing really. If you go to many seasoned Mac developers (especially ones who have also developed and released software for other platforms as well), and you say something like…

“My Mac users tend to get upset if they don’t get a good enough product… even if the product is free and nobody makes them use it. They assume the product is dead if it hasn’t been updated in the last week. And they don’t act like users of other platforms when they get upset. They get… mean. Personal attacks. Outrageous demands.”

… you’ll, often get a laugh or a sigh followed by a “tell me about it”… followed quickly by an anecdote.

In my own Mac experience I ran a free Mac website and was greeted with an absolutely immense amount of hostility. I have also release free (and, in some cases, incredibly inexpensive) Mac software and was greeted with hostility there as well.

Now, you might say… this is just the way it is. Sometimes people get mean and I should just get tougher skin. Except… it’s not.

I’ve also released Windows and Linux applications and the response overwhelmingly positive. And, oftentimes, this was for applications that were direct ports (of, often, lower quality) of the Mac versions I’d already gotten hell about.

Likewise, I began co-hosting a Linux-centered Podcast (www.linuxactionshow.com) recently. Myself and the other host are amateurs. We are learning as we go. And what was the response? Overwhelmingly positive. Heck, even the criticism we received was good natured and constructive (unlike what we received when attempting to run a Mac free website).

2) Apple and their practices

This is a simple one. Apple has a long track record of directly copying 3rd party application developers (most notably small shops) and including almost perfect clones of those, usually shareware, apps in their next version of OS X. Watson & Konfabulator are the two most high profile recent examples.

And I am in the software business. If Apple clones one of my apps… I’m out of business.

Sure, you could say that Microsoft does this too. Except they have a tendency to just straight up purchase the technology rather then re-make it. They find it easier. Apple likes to copy. There’s a big difference there when you’re looking at it from the point of view of trying to pay for food.

3) Apple’s software quality

I’m sure I’ll get plenty of flack for this one (then again, I’m sure I’ll get plenty of flack for all of this), but Apple’s software quality has gone into the toilet.

Case in point. Apple released iLife 06 this last January. My friends and I were all excited. Apple added Podcasting specific features into Garageband. And they made a new web publishing application called iWeb. We were determined to use them to make a great podcast (which ended up being www.castablasta.com for those interested).

So we literally rushed to the local Apple store the MOMENT it was in stock and picked up iLife 06. Over the next few months we struggled, on an almost daily basis, to keep Garageband (which we were using to record and edit the podcast) from crashing. We lost a LOT of data. And a lot of time. And an even greater amount of patience.

We wanted to use iWeb to create our Podcasts website and publish it to our newly purchased .Mac account.

That was a nightmare. iWeb crashed a lot (not as much as Garageband… but a lot). It was slow to use. And the .Mac service was too slow and buggy (and feature-free) to run a podcast from… despite Apple’s marketing claims.

Now, before many of you chime in and say how great those apps work for you… I just plain don’t care at this point. We tried multiple updates of these apps on multiple different types of Macs (G5’s, G4’s and Intel with may different configurations of Ram and audio equipment). None of it proved any more stable for long-term use. And Apple’s support was almost useless in this.

So we moved to using Audacity under Linux. Did it crash? No. Is it harder to use? Yes. But, you know what? At least we can get the job done.

And this example is just the surface of the software problems. OS X itself is becoming more and more buggy in my usage. Apple’s bundled web browser, Safari, renders many pages I visit incorrectly (often in weird ways)… and, when it doesn’t, it often crashes (or at least hangs for a minute or more at a time rendering my system almost unusable).

So. There’s three of the primary reasons I left. I didn’t list games, specific applications, etc that I needed on another platform. I was just focused on whether or not I could use what Apple was providing me in a, relatively, simple way and in a community that was pleasant to be around.

And, in those regards, the Mac has failed me.

To be quite honest the community problems was the real killer. If all the other problems existed… but the community was fun to be around and work with… I would have stuck it out. I would have made it work (no matter how much productivity or hair I lost).

But I had to quit. To move on to something that made me happy. An OS, and a community, that was, in general, positive and helpful. Linux has that community.

The distro I settled on at this point is Ubuntu. I like it. It’s easy to use, cool looking, flexible… and it works. And when I have a problem, an idea or a solution there is a massive community out there to share and work with.

Now I’m sure some of you will notice that I claim that Mac users tend to expect too much for free… and you might argue that Linux users expect things free and open source. But, you know, that’s not my experience so far.

Sure, Linux users have come to expect open source and free software. And many of them balk when presented with commercial software. But, amazingly enough, the Linux community at large seems to be much more open to the concept of paying for your software than the Mac community. Of course that will be put to the ultimate test as I begin to release software for Linux.

That is my rant. If you have questions, please feel free to post them in the comments here and I will do my best to answer.

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For the record, I just installed Ubuntu Dapper and I can say it is honestly, hands down, the best out-of-the-box linux distro *to date*. So much so that I'm starting to consider re-considering gentoo after using that for 3 years.
 

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Martin

Martin

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    On the first problem you got a good tip from the last guy, check the mplayer output.

    About the USB I have no idea.
     

    Majed

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    Now really? do I come off as someone "mean?" :D

    ....

    Regarding iLife, the two apps that I haven't used are garageband and iWeb, so i won't comment there as I have no experience to offer.

    As for Safari, it's actually very stable. (my only complaint is that when one tab is loading something intensive, there's a noticable delay switching to another tab) Also, the extensions aren't like firefox, but lets not go there. Whatever the case, he shouldn't have even brought that up since Oper, Firefox are available. I'm just starting to use Camino and it's pretty good too (fastest page rendering and very light)

    3) For issue #2, given that he makes a living from his SW development, I think that he has every right to abandon the MAC for making use of non-common innovative ideas. However, I'm interested to see if he'll make any better living by selling software for linux.
     
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    I tried running OSX on vmware recently and Safari was buggy as hell, kept crashing whenever I loaded a page other than the standard homepage. Camino was the same. :wallbang:
     

    Majed

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    Martin said:
    I tried running OSX on vmware recently and Safari was buggy as hell, kept crashing whenever I loaded a page other than the standard homepage. Camino was the same. :wallbang:

    I've been using Safari for ages. Never had a problem with it. Actually, Mozilla on my Dell crashed twice.(wipping out all my profiles/settings), and I've taken good care of my windows os where I've had no major problems (that took some effort! :tired: ).

    I honestly didn't know that VMware supported OS X.
     

    Majed

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    Martin said:
    I tried running OSX on vmware recently and Safari was buggy as hell, kept crashing whenever I loaded a page other than the standard homepage. Camino was the same. :wallbang:
    Martin said:
    .... They [vmware] never will [support OS X] either. :D Still, it's not like it hasn't been tried :D
    Ladies and gentlment, behold, Martin's sleazy side. :D
     
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    Majed said:
    Ladies and gentlment, behold, Martin's sleazy side. :D
    Well without saying too much, there is a large community of mackers out there who want to run osx on intel pentium and what have you, among other things you can find howtos on how to install osx in vmware..
     

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