The Globalization Of Catenaccio (1 Viewer)
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The only thing that needs discussing is the fact that goal.com should go and read an interview with the perfector of catenaccio (herrera) or watch a few games of said inter team and maybe actually understand what its all about.
Its amazing how many people have a completely false idea of what catenaccio actually is
Its amazing how many people have a completely false idea of what catenaccio actually is
Liverpool and Chelsea when played against each other was something far from Catenaccio and if someone wants to call it so, it qualifies to be the brainstorming of the real one.
Liverpool when played against Juventus was also a primitive version of Catenaccio.
All these applyalso to Greece, Porto and anyone CLAIMING the use of Catenaccio.
Liverpool when played against Juventus was also a primitive version of Catenaccio.
All these applyalso to Greece, Porto and anyone CLAIMING the use of Catenaccio.
++ [ originally posted by David Del Piero ] ++
Catenaccio is great
proud that it's Italian Proud of the sake of Serie A!!!
Catenaccio is great
proud that it's Italian Proud of the sake of Serie A!!!
Catenaccio is jus a symple formation that can and has been reproduced all over the world with ease.
Catenaccio is jus a 4-3-3 system using vertically aligned centre backs (libero and centre back) and an unbalanced front 3 (centre forward, support striker and a winger) used in a counter attack style
Helenio Herrera is credited as the inventor of catenaccio with his dominant inter team.
This in reality is not exactly correct... Herrera was the perfector
The first team to use a form of catenaccio in italy was Nereo Rocco's awful triestina side of 1948... A team on the brink of relegation and extinction.
Rocco introduced the catenaccio sytem and propelled this awful side to 2nd in the league.
This team and herrera's perfection of the system are not italian born, but in reality based on the swis bolt system designed by Karl Rappan for the swiss national team in 1937.
This is an almost identical system to that perfected by helenio herrera.
(Herrera himself credits Rappan with his formation)
The only differences being that :
Where rappan used the verticle centre backs in the layout of an attacking back and defensive back (def being closest to goal) ,herrera lined them up the same way but the centre closest to goal was the player who went forward (libero)
Herrera's other change was that instead of having an unbalanced midfield and straight front 3 as in Rappans sytem , herrera opted for an unbalanced front line and a straight midfield.
There is in actual practice no difference between Rappans Swiss bolt and herreras catenaccio...
On the field they are the same formation playing the exact same counter attack system.
So yes.. the all italian catenaccio sytem is in reality a swiss invention perfected by an argentinian in italy.
The idea that it cant be reproduced is complete rubbish... as this system has been used widely throughout europe since its beginning... The only reason people look at it being italian is that it is has, throughout the years been more widely used by the italian teams....and the italian mentality more often results in this mode of play being kept for 90 minutes whilst many other utilisers of the formation / style will use catenaccio in periods of the game rather than its entirety.
Its a very simple sytem that can be employed to great effect by any team even the less able with ease... and has been for generations all around the world
Not too mention the miss-apprehension that most people have that catenaccio is an ultra defensive formation... It isnt... Its a complete system able to change in anyway you want at any time... Probably the most adaptable system available... Though the way in which a team decides to implement is a different issue all togeather
Helenio herrera's Most famous Catenaccio squad was this one, which lifted Inters 1st european cup in 63/64 :
------------------------Sarti--------------------------
---------------------Guarneri------------------------
----Burgnich---------Picchi----------Facchetti----
----------------------Tagnin-------------------------
------------Suarez-----------Corso----------------
-------------------------------------Mazzola---------
---Jair-------------------------------------------------
-----------------------Milani--------------------------
++ [ originally posted by Paid-off-Ref ] ++
Catenaccio is a system with 5 defenders, where one is behind the other defenders, also known as a sweeper.
Catenaccio is a system with 5 defenders, where one is behind the other defenders, also known as a sweeper.
Sorry chxta, here's a even better explanation.
http://www.naccio.lcs.mit.edu/catenaccio.html
"Playing behind these four man-markers for Inter was the sweeper. The idea was that he would pick up anything that came through the back four. Popping up here, there and everywhere he would sweep up wherever and whenever he was needed."
That piece is incorrect...
Its a common misconception... When talking about herreras squad they take the defensive midfielder to be playing as a defender.
He isnt... Taking Tagnin as an example as he played the role in herreras european cup winning squad (Formation as shown above).
Tagnin played as a deep lying defensive midfielder.. covering the back four and man marking the oppositions offensive midfielder and distributing to his outside midfield players.
He was not a defender... It was not a defenders role... It may have appeared so at times due to his deep starting position... But there is no way on earth that was a defenders role.Just look how the formation played out when going from defending to attacking
Just cause your man marking... doesnt make you a defender
Best example of tagnin's role i can think of is Nobby Stiles role in englands penguin sytem that won the world cup
Get hold of some footage of herreras sides and you will see exactly what i am talking about (hard to explain)
The formation i set out above is the actual formation used by herrera (the established and accepted perfector of catenaccio), though frachetti and burgnich also played the libero role at times
The way i described it, is how it is layed out in the uefa coaching guide
Many also mistake the more recent italian use of the 3 man back line employing wingbacks (5 defenders) for catenaccio... as that is also a defence first counter attack system... Though of course it is not truly catenaccio
Not a source i would usually refer to... But the national soccer coachs association of america has a reasonably good description of formations available online.
http://www.nscaa.com/scripts/runisa.dll?m2:gp::72059+mediacenter/print+42290
Its a common misconception... When talking about herreras squad they take the defensive midfielder to be playing as a defender.
He isnt... Taking Tagnin as an example as he played the role in herreras european cup winning squad (Formation as shown above).
Tagnin played as a deep lying defensive midfielder.. covering the back four and man marking the oppositions offensive midfielder and distributing to his outside midfield players.
He was not a defender... It was not a defenders role... It may have appeared so at times due to his deep starting position... But there is no way on earth that was a defenders role.Just look how the formation played out when going from defending to attacking
Just cause your man marking... doesnt make you a defender
Best example of tagnin's role i can think of is Nobby Stiles role in englands penguin sytem that won the world cup
Get hold of some footage of herreras sides and you will see exactly what i am talking about (hard to explain)
The formation i set out above is the actual formation used by herrera (the established and accepted perfector of catenaccio), though frachetti and burgnich also played the libero role at times
The way i described it, is how it is layed out in the uefa coaching guide
Many also mistake the more recent italian use of the 3 man back line employing wingbacks (5 defenders) for catenaccio... as that is also a defence first counter attack system... Though of course it is not truly catenaccio
Not a source i would usually refer to... But the national soccer coachs association of america has a reasonably good description of formations available online.
http://www.nscaa.com/scripts/runisa.dll?m2:gp::72059+mediacenter/print+42290
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catenaccio
Here happens to be the same explanation at another site.
"In Herrera's version in the 1960s, four man-marking defenders are tightly assigned to each opposing attacker while an extra sweeper would pick up any loose ball that escaped the marking of the defenders."
Here you can see the defensive midfielder and the sweeper.
Here happens to be the same explanation at another site.
"In Herrera's version in the 1960s, four man-marking defenders are tightly assigned to each opposing attacker while an extra sweeper would pick up any loose ball that escaped the marking of the defenders."
Here you can see the defensive midfielder and the sweeper.
Sure,as a defensive measure when you're leading 2-1 or keeping a match in a draw,any team can introduce the so-called catenaccio by substituting an additional libero or defender and defending deep.But which non Italian team can actually adopt it as a match winning strategy and play entire matches over seasons using almost purely Catennaccio?
In the English game there is no sweeper,only half baked defenders who fail to grasp the principle behind the offside trap.To use hardline,packed defending to shut out the opposition for the last ten minutes of a game is certainly not Catennaccio to me.
In the English game there is no sweeper,only half baked defenders who fail to grasp the principle behind the offside trap.To use hardline,packed defending to shut out the opposition for the last ten minutes of a game is certainly not Catennaccio to me.
